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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:05 am
by RAS
In post 13, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 10, awestfie wrote:VOTE: awestfie
Uh wtf is this
This reaction is really bad. What made you "question" the RVS self-vote here?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:21 am
by XtoxicNim
i thought it was a pretty reasonable reaction

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:25 am
by XtoxicNim
you know what would be super funny
if S_S rolled scum for the 3rd time in a row in boon games

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:39 am
by ceejayvinoya
In post 50, RAS wrote:
In post 13, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 10, awestfie wrote:VOTE: awestfie
Uh wtf is this
This reaction is really bad. What made you "question" the RVS self-vote here?
What's fucking with my head right now is why no one is questioning it.

Is this normal rvs behavior for a large theme game?

It doesn't strike me as scummy, hence I didn't vote, but it's very anti town.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:53 am
by RAS
In post 53, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 50, RAS wrote:
In post 13, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 10, awestfie wrote:VOTE: awestfie
Uh wtf is this
This reaction is really bad. What made you "question" the RVS self-vote here?
What's fucking with my head right now is why no one is questioning it.

Is this normal rvs behavior for a large theme game?

It doesn't strike me as scummy, hence I didn't vote, but it's very anti town.
I can't speak for the RVS behavior comment since I'm unfamiliar with large games, however, the RVS self-vote gave me town vibes. I saw it as a way to fish out reactions from players, and an attempt to get us out of the RVS as soon as possible. The reason why I got town vibes from it is that I thought it would give us better reactions than your typical random vote. There's no other reason that I can see why she would self-vote in that situation. Her vote in only reinforces what I said regarding fishing out a reaction.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:53 am
by UnaBombaH
In post 52, XtoxicNim wrote:you know what would be super funny
if S_S rolled scum for the 3rd time in a row in boon games
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:53 am
by UnaBombaH
VOTE: Something_Smart - just in case. :shifty:

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:00 am
by Sheldon Cooper PhD
In post 13, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 10, awestfie wrote:VOTE: awestfie
Uh wtf is this
The question you should really be asking is wtf is
this


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Distant stare? Tilted head look? Cigarette hanging out? Coincidence? I think not...

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:04 am
by Sheldon Cooper PhD
In post 50, RAS wrote:
In post 13, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 10, awestfie wrote:VOTE: awestfie
Uh wtf is this
This reaction is really bad. What made you "question" the RVS self-vote here?
more like why wouldn't you question a self vote

why would you be ok with someone self voting

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:26 am
by RAS
In post 58, Sheldon Cooper PhD wrote:
In post 50, RAS wrote:
In post 13, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 10, awestfie wrote:VOTE: awestfie
Uh wtf is this
This reaction is really bad. What made you "question" the RVS self-vote here?
more like why wouldn't you question a self vote

why would you be ok with someone self voting
This seems like a weird response to me considering you never questioned it yourself, nor did you ever point out how it wasn't okay until just now. I never said I was okay with someone self-voting, but this is way different than your regular self-vote considering it's a self-vote on Page 1 and is very clearly a vote to gather reactions.

You're almost treating this as a late-day/game self-vote as opposed to what it is with the way you worded things. The vote isn't as important as some of you are making it out to be.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:57 am
by Sheldon Cooper PhD
I generally don't really read RVS naked votes because what's the point
I only noticed that self vote happened because someone quoted it later
Gotta talk about something to get out of RVS - I think given awestfie went directly onto ceejay with her vote, it was kinda planned...Do you think awestfie believes the reaction test is a good scum catching mechanism or do you think awestfie just wanted a reason to lay down any old vote, ie manufacturing a reason, or maybe it's just some way to get the first wagon of the day going

thoughts?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:24 am
by RAS
In post 60, Sheldon Cooper PhD wrote:I generally don't really read RVS naked votes because what's the point
I only noticed that self vote happened because someone quoted it later
Gotta talk about something to get out of RVS - I think given awestfie went directly onto ceejay with her vote, it was kinda planned...Do you think awestfie believes the reaction test is a good scum catching mechanism or do you think awestfie just wanted a reason to lay down any old vote, ie manufacturing a reason, or maybe it's just some way to get the first wagon of the day going

thoughts?
I can't speak as to why she voted ceejay, but my guess is because of she believed that the reaction was poor (as I did). I'm sure awestfie will respond to this soon enough considering just how much discussion there is around her actions, however, I believe that the action of self-voting was done because of either:

– She wanted to get reactions, and to get out of the RVS as soon as possible. If this was her goal, I would say this was a success considering how much discussion has been done around that one post alone.

– She wanted to get reactions, and to pressure whoever reacted badly to her vote. It's possible she uses it as a way to catch scum, however it seems like a really weak way to do so.

One could argue the self-vote itself was just a joke, and it might be a possibility, however, given awestfie's vote in , I don't think this is the case.

awestfie hasn't played in years, but I went back and read through some of her games to see her actions during the RVS to see if I could notice any type of pattern, and she seems like the type of player who nearly never participates in RVS.

Here's what I collected from her previous games:

Spoiler: awestfie's RVS Analysis
awestfie's previous games with RVS (1):

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=57612 (town)

awestfie's previous games with no RVS (6):

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=24726 (town)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=27483 (town, only 1 post)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30255 (town)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30103 (scum)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30518 (town, she points out how she doesn't RVS as it is "next to pointless")
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=58743 (town, she says "I'm not going to RVS, I only do it when a friend is on the table I'm currently playing in to troll them.")

Other notable games (1):

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=27888 (scum, only 3 posts, and while her opening post did have a vote, it looks far from random)


TL;DR: She has 6 games with no RVS, 1 game with RVS and 1 game that could be argued either or. I think it's fair to assume that the self-vote here was to draw a reaction, and I also think it's very fair to assume that she wanted to get out of the RVS as soon as possible given her previous comments in games.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:32 am
by Abstract Nonsense
In post 46, UnaBombaH wrote:Only a couple of players I haven't played with in this game, so I think I'm gonna do well.

Also, because everyone else is already doing these kinds of gimmicks: I'm a "non-consecutive night Commuter".

I'll probably start commuting tonight as to avoid dying N1 as I'm a huge threat to scum, and then claim D2 that I didn't actually commute N1 to get myself to D3 because scum are afraid to miss a nightkill N2, only to realize that I really DID start commuting N1 meaning that I'll also commute N3 meaning that they can't kill me then either....
All hail the unkillable god UnaBombah! \o/

Also isn't that the role Mulch had in the danganronpa alt trainwreck game :shifty: (and I was ascetic in that one too! :? )

-smart

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:34 am
by Abstract Nonsense
In post 52, XtoxicNim wrote:you know what would be super funny
if S_S rolled scum for the 3rd time in a row in boon games
No that would actually be tragic, especially since poor Baezu would be dragged into my curse...

...but fortunately it didn't happen :P

-smart

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:05 am
by Nero Cain
@mod
-Can you prod Xtoxm

Always. Xtoxm, you’re prodded!

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:31 am
by Vorkuta
So out of curiosity- is it normal to """mass-claim""" early on in BooneyTunes?
Damn, I have to think about whether I buy any of this.

@The guys talking about the self-vote talk and filler- it's NAI.
RAS gets town points for the RVS analysis.

@NC- still disliking the Sheldon character?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:33 am
by Nero Cain
In post 65, Vorkuta wrote:@NC- still disliking the Sheldon character?
What's the point of this question?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:34 am
by Vedith
I have 9 town reads.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:34 am
by Vorkuta
In post 12, Nero Cain wrote:lets pl the stupid gimmick alt.
Still valid or have you reconsidered?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:36 am
by Nero Cain
In post 65, Vorkuta wrote:So out of curiosity- is it normal to """mass-claim""" early on in BooneyTunes?
Claiming negative utility roles is a sitewide thing. una's claim is just a troll.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:37 am
by Nero Cain
In post 68, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 12, Nero Cain wrote:lets pl the stupid gimmick alt.
Still valid or have you reconsidered?
Has my vote switched, no but why are you overly concerned with why I want the slot dead?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:37 am
by Vorkuta
In post 69, Nero Cain wrote:una's claim is just a troll.
I... believe... one of you?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:38 am
by Vedith
VOTE: Sheldon Cooper Phd

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:39 am
by Vorkuta
In post 70, Nero Cain wrote:why are you overly concerned
Quick and easy low-hanging-fruit mislynch?
Your PL vote would be valid if he were making Bazinga posts every post, but I see a normal player with his self-vote analysis.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:42 am
by Nero Cain
Maybe that's why he's scum? Like he's intentionally not playing to his gimmick alt b/c if he did it would be extremely grating and everyone would want him dead.