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Target	Wagon
Shoshin (3)	RadiantCowbells (17), Zulfy (22), Oversoul (41)
Flubbernugget (1)	Commie Catgirl Coalition (4),
RadiantCowbells (1)	Shoshin (20)
Not Voting (4)	Flubbernugget, Lil Uzi Vert, Dunnstral, schadd_

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-08-13 14:52:59).

Read our last game 762. Or like any of her games with me. I've pushed her to the point she's made ~posts like this~ before but they always came from a place of frustration and general emotion. What she's doing here is making these statements like they're the rational and sensible thing to do with no visible emotional attachment to them. I don't buy it.

Or is it scientifically, peer reviewed gut

It's scum RC, Oversoul.

In post 47, RadiantCowbells wrote:A solid chunk of them Shoshin gets very emotional under pressure.

Well, I think I’m comfortable voting for her once everyone else has checked in.

Wait, what if she’s suffering from RC fatigue?

Probably still would ask to be replaced I guess.

It's not gut and I also went way out of my way to explain to her how I went from point A to point B and she neither engaged me on any of it nor called me out on all the lies that I supposedly made.

I want to say her ignoring the existence of the cop is also scummy but empirically I don't think it is, so.

Why are you sheeping RC, LUV?

I'll explain why RC's scum later.

Shoshin as town would be arguing with the content of my posts (which by the way I went out of my way to express in a way that she would be able to meaningfully answer if she was town) rather than just handwaving everything as 'yeah it's scum RC' without actually arguing the point.

In post 57, Shoshin wrote:Why are you sheeping RC, LUV?

Mainly 18. Very weird reaction to his vote.

In post 58, Shoshin wrote:I'll explain why RC's scum later.

Dunno it's really easy for you as town to just say I'm trying to eliminate you because I'm scared of you. And I think if you were town actually caught in the crossfire you'd give whatever response immediately came to you rather than sitting and thinking about it. You're buying time.

In post 58, Shoshin wrote:I'll explain why RC's scum later.

I would kinda like this explanation now

RC if you are scum, what behaviors should I look for to catch you

I have absolutely nil motivation to give you time if you're going to pander to the crowd and call me scum instead of try to convince me I'm wrong by the way.

RC if you are scum, what behaviors should I look for to catch you

This is the way wrong question.

Does anyone disagree with me that it should be obvious from Shoshins point of view that my push on her is in good faith because knee jerk calling me scum without it being an emotional overreaction seems so, so out of place to me.

In post 59, RadiantCowbells wrote:Shoshin as town would be arguing with the content of my posts (which by the way I went out of my way to express in a way that she would be able to meaningfully answer if she was town) rather than just handwaving everything as 'yeah it's scum RC' without actually arguing the point.

RC's just inventing narratives about me that aren't true.

After 762, it's unlikely that town RC votes me as quickly as he did because of the interactions we had there. It's also unlikely that town RC misrepresents my posts (e.g. saying that I was supporting Flubb wagon after I voted RC when I was just testing Zulfy's reaction). Town RC never misrepresents me, whereas it's the bread-and-butter of scum RC. Scum RC comes into the game knowing I'm his biggest threat & wants to take me out immediately. Town RC wants to leave me alone & give me some space to scumhunt. Town RC doesn't want me to blow up emotionally because it's mean & unnecessary to sort me (and we've talked about this outside the game before). Scum RC wants me to blow up emotionally, and then tries to push my mislynch because I'm actively trying not to let him manipulate me.

This is scum RC, through and through.

gonna be blunt i dont see how any of this is actually productive

can we just have rc/shoshin not interact until they townread each other early on or if later in the day there's still scumreads there resolve it then? i think it's entirely likely shoshin or rc could be scum here but if the day is going to turn into rc/shoshin i'd rather delay that for once i have a handle on everyone else :/

ftr i think this is probably a svt interaction just a very inevitably annoying one that could easily turn -ev

RadiantCowbells wrote:Does anyone disagree with me that it should be obvious from Shoshins point of view that my push on her is in good faith because knee jerk calling me scum without it being an emotional overreaction seems so, so out of place to me.

yes and i feel like i'd only ever agree with that take if i had any sort of a handle of shoshin's personality as scum v town

In post 60, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:

In post 57, Shoshin wrote:Why are you sheeping RC, LUV?

Mainly 18. Very weird reaction to his vote.

It's not if you know our history together. He votes me at the start of games a lot, trying to test me so that he can read me. I recently had a conversation with him about this and told him he didn't need to do this because he could read me in other ways, and that it was hurting me emotionally, and he agreed. He said he votes me at the start because it speeds up the process of reading me, but he agreed it was unnecessary and he wouldn't do it. Yet here he is doing it. So I was just intentionally trying to shut it down by not reacting and calling it out as a boring pattern to keep repeating. He should know better than to push my lynch at this point.

In post 61, RadiantCowbells wrote:

In post 58, Shoshin wrote:I'll explain why RC's scum later.

Dunno it's really easy for you as town to just say I'm trying to eliminate you because I'm scared of you. And I think if you were town actually caught in the crossfire you'd give whatever response immediately came to you rather than sitting and thinking about it. You're buying time.

This is a massive misrepresentation of reality. I hate how effective you are at doing this as scum.

All of that logic is so flawed

You correctly argue that I wouldn't push you as town as a reaction test but this is clearly not a reaction test and I said that immediately and even lampshades that truth.

I don't think you can possibly think this isn't how I deal with you if I scumread you, particularly given our last game where you were scum.

I'm also explicitly not trying to make you blow up: I've gone out of my way to convey my thoughts in a way that should I have been wrong town you would find on your wavelength so to speak and rather than engage me on any of that you've instead chosen to call me scum. If I wanted to piss you off it's evident from prior games that I know how to push those buttons and I had the choice all this time of shutting down engagement and just saying "lol Shoshin scum" until you died.

And you telling someone to vote Flubber to speed up the game is absolutely you signalling to everyone in the game that it was a pressure vote from you.

Why are you so wrong?

Actually fuck off Katy

Town RC knows to treat me differently than he has this game.

RC, what's the reason you voted me?

The initial reason?