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In post 48, Elements wrote:

In post 45, chennisden wrote:Worst case we lynch wrong and lynch scum tomorrow.

WORST CASE. That's terrible for scum btw.

PRs should claim D1 and w/o counterclaim we spare.

Don't scum just kill the pr claim night 1?

Nah we spare them.

In post 45, chennisden wrote: PRs should claim D1 and w/o counterclaim we spare.

thats pretty extreme... considering

mod wrote:Early claiming from the town power role is detrimental as all of them are vulnerable to a factional nightkill.

nonetheless i think youre town

Yeah I get the spare PR idea, don't see why it needs to be D1 though. If we spare D1 then Undyne can claim D2.

If scum CC:

1) they're throwing
2) we figure out who the scum is and lynch that

worst case we'll lynch the situationally useful PR and kill the scum D2 which isn't bad btw!

and if there is a cc, then we go into day 3 in a 5-1?

If Chennis forces the PR to claim I will advocate for Genocide route

Spare happens before NK ddl

If there's no counterclaim (there probably will be none) we spare the PR

If there is a counterclaim we're going to find the scum and lynch them

Well, here's my idea. If you're PR and you think you have a reasonable (~33% or greater) chance of dying at night, you should claim and be spared. Otherwise, we can probably put that off until D2/D3 because Toriel equity.

In post 54, DrDolittle wrote:and if there is a cc, then we go into day 3 in a 5-1?

Worst case yeah then I think we just play mafia at that point.

In post 57, Something_Smart wrote:Well, here's my idea. If you're PR and you think you have a reasonable (~33% or greater) chance of dying at night, you should claim and be spared. Otherwise, we can probably put that off until D2/D3 because Toriel equity.

Asgore should probably claim today, idk how strongly I feel about undyne claiming today but i feel like they should, and toriel maybe claims d2? idk

i think prs should claim d1/d2

meh numbers-wise its not a bad play.
gut says that if im pr im not going to claim since it ruins the fun, especially if Im Undyine or Toriel

Not sure if I agree its the best plan since we lose out on PR action, but its better than mine

Well Undyne claim D2 in genocide is pretty funny for some evil WIFOM

btw i think the PR will prolly play rly obvious and we should just get rid of them early ya know

we're sparing almost always btw. minus the scum CC (which i don't think will happen) we're sparing.

also CC worst case gives us 6-1 not 5-1 so scum literally has to be the towniest or second towniest person alive idk

How about this

Do we want to go for Spare with safety valve of Neutral, or we want to go for Genocide with safety valve of Neutral? Thinking about it, I think we should do the later.

Yeah, I mean, it's obvious that chennisden is the PR

In post 64, Oversoul wrote:How about this

Do we want to go for Spare with safety valve of Neutral, or we want to go for Genocide with safety valve of Neutral? Thinking about it, I think we should do the later.

no, we should spare. scum has to play significantly better to be spared than for them to just get mislynches.

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volxen (it's been a while but i think his town meta is p obvious)

I don’t think that’s true. Sparing is like doing the scums job for them. We are removing the townies player then they have a chance to remove the second towniest player. It accelerates the race to the bottom which is typically why most scum teams win.

idk if elements is town or just good at mafia.

In post 69, Oversoul wrote:I don’t think that’s true. Sparing is like doing the scums job for them. We are removing the townies player then they have a chance to remove the second towniest player. It accelerates the race to the bottom which is typically why most scum teams win.

no.

just no.

I really, really don’t get EV.

Looking at the EV for 9-2 it is 35.2 town win. With a confirmed innocent (our PR) in this case, the EV increases to 35.7. Da fuq? A confirmed townie is only worth .5?? I don’t trust math.

if we're playing the spare game then we've changed scum's job entirely.

and thus we aren't doing it for them.