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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:48 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 44, Uncrowned wrote:That's half-joking but man that's a bad reaction P1, especially for a setup like this where lynching townies gives us a revenge kill anyway as worst case scenario. If you're that confident in finding scum, you wouldn't react poorly to being pressured like that. You'd be confident in shooting acum with your revenge ability.
This is a really dumb post.

Correctly venging 1 scum does a lot less for town than correct lynching scum and getting to evens and gaining a mislynch.

It also prevents me from affecting future lynches.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:49 am
by RadiantCowbells
I'm attempting to maintain a 75%ish town winrate and me getting lynched and correctly venging scum never gives town a 75% chance of winning the remainder of the game.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:51 am
by RadiantCowbells
I would prefer to have the game solved D1 before anyone gets lynched and I am completely capable of doing that

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:52 am
by RadiantCowbells
If anything as scum I would care a shit ton less about getting voted because I would know that scum aren't going to quickhammer me and I should be reasonably confident in my ability to NOT get voted by all 4 town D1???

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:53 am
by Uncrowned
Okay.

Explain why you want to get shot if you're wrong, then? You think the game is immediately lost if you're wrong so we might as well end it? Doesn't make sense to me.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:54 am
by RadiantCowbells
If that's the trade off I have to make I have to

I think that I can hit scum ~80% of the time day 1 and win the game 95%+ of the remainder if I get that mislynch.

I would prefer not to. But people are irrational about me.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:55 am
by Uncrowned
Isn't 53 a little WIFOMy

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:55 am
by RadiantCowbells
If you choose to see it as such.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:56 am
by Uncrowned
Okay that's fine but you're still basically telling people to throw the game if you're wrong which I don't really like. Maybe not scummy perse but not really something I agree with personally if you're town

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:58 am
by RadiantCowbells
I'm saying that I think towns winrate is higher if they sheep me today and have me dayvigged if I'm wrong than it is allowing me to get mislynched because one town is being an idiot. I think that's objectively true. I think towns winrate is even higher if they sheep me and then don't vengekill me if I'm wrong but that's a tough sell in this lobby given that CT policy lynches me by default and several other players are going to be paranoid of me playing town leader as scum.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:00 pm
by Karnage
@RC I don't give a shit about your winrate and I'd be willing to bet nobody else does either.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:01 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I want to win this game and explaining why my actions are in service of winning the game is part of winning the game here. Am I wrong?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:02 pm
by Karnage
In post 61, RadiantCowbells wrote:I want to win this game and explaining why my actions are in service of winning the game is part of winning the game here. Am I wrong?
You're appealing to emotion and implying town can't win without you. Not only do I find it scummy, I find it quite obnoxious.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:06 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I mean you know it's true and you also know it's not a scumtell for me and I think you would know better than to scumread me for saying that I'd prefer to be listened to and venged if wrong than not listened to or lynched without getting to set towns affairs in order.

I think that you're scum Karnage.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:07 pm
by RadiantCowbells
You've been really weird around me and I'm pretty sure it's because you're scum.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:08 pm
by RadiantCowbells
In post 17, Karnage wrote:
In post 15, RadiantCowbells wrote:Better than having me lead on 3 scum in a row.
shit my math is wrong. I was thinking 2 scum. disregard my previous post

Also there's this.

Not sure if I need to explain this further for the benefit of the newer players in the list but forgetting that there's 3 scum instead of 2 scum happens a lot from scum that think in terms of 'ok there's 2 other scum'

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:09 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I find it unfathomable that you would consent to venging me if I lynch wrong and then further push the matter calling me scum. Shouldn't forcing me to bus if I'm scum or die be good enough?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:11 pm
by RadiantCowbells
And calling me out for AtE when you know AtE is like half of what I do as scum is also questionable but okay.

So now what Karnage?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:13 pm
by RadiantCowbells
67 should read as compared to town, ie I resort to AtE a lot sooner as town than scum.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:16 pm
by Karnage
In post 67, RadiantCowbells wrote:So now what Karnage?
I'm just going to remove myself from the situation I think. I just want to enjoy playing the game, whether I win or lose. I don't think that's going to be possible here. maybe next time. good luck all.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:16 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Ok...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:17 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Nah honestly you stay I would have 0 regrets about not playing this game out.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:50 pm
by Uncrowned
Don't leave guys

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:06 pm
by CheekyTeeky
Sigh.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:07 pm
by CheekyTeeky
RC thoughts on uncrowned?