Newbie 1996: GAME OVER

[humaneatingmonkey]

Not convinced Lucky is town so far.

[HoldenGolden]

Not convinced Lucky is town so far.

Can you be more detail breaker of promises?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Peaches, mind weighing in on the drama? It seems we were overshadowed by Aloratom not doing RVS, and I don't like sharing the spotlight.

[humaneatingmonkey]

It just sounds more to me that he's scum trying his best to look like he's scumhunting, than town responding to something that they're suspicious about. I feel this because I really don't understand his case against me.

[LuckyLuciano]

Really bad play if you are town to break a 3-way tie in which your are one of the wagons,

instead of letting a non-voting player come in and decide the leading wagon. Wouldn't the latter be reasonably AI once flips start coming out?

If you can't see how the new gamestate doesn't lend itself to an AI vote, then good username.

Is this not a manner of which to discredit and cast doubt on a player? That's the issue I have is the tonal. The first directly casts shade onto HEM alignment. The second is a bit more distant, but is still implying that town!hem should understand and strengths the first shade attempt through making it seem is a logically reasonable point.

I agree that LYLO is town's best chance. I think that the logic you are using is flawed due to the nature of the stage of the game at the point it happen. I would overlook both if you weren't simultaneously seeemilgy discrediting HEM

Lol. I wasn't casting shade on his alignment. Look through my meta and you will see me consistently arguing bad town play and incorrect reads are not alignment indicative. I was being a jerk because I hadn't had my morning coffee yet and was already dealing with obtuse play elsewhere, so I ended up taking it out on Monkey. On that note, I'd like to apologize to Monkey, because nobody has fun in mafia when people are being rude and making ad hominem attacks.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Votecount 1.02

humaneatingmonkey - (1)

-LuckyLuciano, Holdengolden

LuckyLuciano - (3)

- Yooh, InWho22, humaneatingmonkey

Aloratom - (1)

- Peaches

Inwho22 - (2)

- 3bounty, Kirari Momobami

Not Voting (1) -

Aloratom

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

All Players Have Confirmed. Deadline is in (expired on 2020-04-19 06:15:00)

[humaneatingmonkey]

but you're voting me. what does that vote mean? do you not think i'm the most likely to be scum?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Do you feel like your meta can justify why you're town in this game?

[LuckyLuciano]

Holden forgetting that his vote was on Monkey when the prior VC went up makes me feel good about his slot.

pedit: I don't see a pressing reason to change my vote yet. I like the counterwagon on InWho, but I'm still waiting for his response to jump over. I'd rather pressure players who are around early on than those who are not, so that we can build interactions and get the game started. Again, look at my early votes in other games, I always redirect to active players.

pedit 2: I think my town and scum range overlap pretty heavily, but I don't have scum meta on this site to show, so I can only talk about my town meta.

[humaneatingmonkey]

so talk to us about your scum meta.

[LuckyLuciano]

My last scum game was about 5 years ago, on another site. I play the game the same way as scum. The difference would have to be in who I add to the town block and who gets to be lynched by PoE.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm suspicious of people who constantly reference their meta because they're often playing to their meta. But now that you're telling me it doesn't matter because you play the same way, we can finally stop talking about meta.

[LuckyLuciano]

Cool. What would you like to talk about now?

[humaneatingmonkey]

My only problem was that you used your meta to justify that your actions were town-oriented, but now we're learning that it could also have been scum oriented.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Your tone and your process feel off and how you got tame so fast after you got the spotlight makes me rub my chin.
Now I want to hear what's on everyone's mind.

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: LuckyLuciano
Just to even the wagon here.
Also hey guys

This scummy

why

[LuckyLuciano]

I justified that my actions were in my town range. I'm fine being viewed as scummy, I'm used to it. I don't try to prove that I'm innocent, I just make sure people are aware it's possible. If I'm town, I'd rather be in the middle of people's readlists than locktown because mafia has to eventually push town, and if I'm not locktown then they can push me, and since I know I'm town I gain more insight from that than other players can. Savvy?

[Yooh]

There actually could be scum in holden ll, I just don't know which is scummier between self meta and the push

By your logic, isn't Monkey scummier than Who22?

[Yooh]

pedit: I don't see a pressing reason to change my vote yet. I like the counterwagon on InWho, but I'm still waiting for his response to jump over. I'd rather pressure players who are around early on than those who are not, so that we can build interactions and get the game started. Again, look at my early votes in other games, I always redirect to active players.

Can you enlighten me your read in Monkey? (And sorry, I don't want to read your finished games)

[Yooh]

I mean, still same reason?

[LuckyLuciano]

@Yooh, my only reason to suspect Monkey is his concern with me putting Holden at L-2 yet leaving his vote there. I don't think his vote on me later is AI. I think it's bad town play if he is town, which gave me an opportunity to end RVS and provide a platform for meaningful interactions. My push on him was more for reactions from others than from him. I'm townlean on Holden and Kirari atm.

[Yooh]

My push on him was more for reactions from others than from him.

So what do you get from it?

I'm townlean on Holden and Kirari atm.

Kirari only has 3 posts, which one of them is RVS, how come do you get townlean from it?

[InWho22]

Alora/who22

VOTE: who22

Why do you think my vote was scummy, and why in that case would my partner be Alora?
Please explain.

[LuckyLuciano]

My push on him was more for reactions from others than from him.

So what do you get from it?

Not much, since most players didn't actually react to it.

I'm townlean on Holden and Kirari atm.

Kirari only has 3 posts, which one of them is RVS, how come do you get townlean from it?

Because I see where's they are coming from in suspecting Who's vote.

[3bounty]

How? I don't see it. She gave no explanation.