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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:27 pm
by Kanna
Unless this is hec-shiki, I've skimread some of shiki's other games and they've made pretty out there deductions

pedit: VT claims shrink the pool of possible PRs, no?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:30 pm
by DoctorPepper
In post 50, Kanna wrote:Unless this is hec-shiki, I've skimread some of shiki's other games and they've made pretty out there deductions

pedit: VT claims shrink the pool of possible PRs, no?
Aren't we playing under the fact that most people are VTs anyway?

If anything, if they're actually a PR they can just opt.not to claim it

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:32 pm
by GeorgeBailey
VC 1.01
Euphony
(2): Kanna, DoctorPepper
OkaPoka
(1): Drew-Sta
Iconeum
(1): OkaPoka
DoctorPepper
(1): Datisi
Drew-Sta
(1): Euphony

Not Voting
(3): Alduskkel, QuantumQuasar, Iconeum

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

(expired on 2020-05-04 13:39:45)


V/LAs
: Iconeum has a standard weekend VLA

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:33 pm
by Drew-Sta
In post 21, Euphony wrote:
In post 12, OkaPoka wrote:hi drew-sta! do you remember me? because i remember you!
In post 13, Drew-Sta wrote:I do remember you! Long time no see, buddy.
for those interested:

micro 349: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=57625

mini 1582: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58162
Oh my gosh. I had completely forgotten Micro 349. I must go back and reread it for the lols.
In post 22, Euphony wrote:
In post 11, Drew-Sta wrote:Hello all!
by my count, you opened with 'hello' in mini 1582 and mini 1593, both as mafia. there was no 'hello' in mini 1591, micro 349, newbie 1537, newbie 1513, newbie 1500 and mini 1578 as town and micro 366 as mafia.
Ok, so this poses an interesting issue. I react with an OMGUS, it looks like scum pretending to be town. I react aggressively and suggest meta on my games is simply coincidence and it looks like scumsplaining. I ignore it, and it looks like scum avoiding the issue.

You've painted me into a corner with meta that is about 6 years old (as I've only just started playing again). That's a fairly calculated move.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:35 pm
by OkaPoka
what if we dont look at any of my old games

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:45 pm
by Drew-Sta
In post 54, OkaPoka wrote:what if we dont look at any of my old games
lol.

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Small aside. In 349 I said 'G'day' (12) which is synonymous to 'hello'. I'm not trying to make a big deal of Euphony's post but it seems disingenuous to make such a statement.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:50 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 22, Euphony wrote:
In post 11, Drew-Sta wrote:Hello all!
by my count, you opened with 'hello' in mini 1582 and mini 1593, both as mafia. there was no 'hello' in mini 1591, micro 349, newbie 1537, newbie 1513, newbie 1500 and mini 1578 as town and micro 366 as mafia.
do me next

but you have to do all of them
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Question to anyone familiar with the setup: how different will this be from a different mafia game? In particular I'm not sure how to play around the potential alternate mafia win condition where they win if all commanders are town and they all die, other than that it seems like we don't want the entire command structure to claim.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:57 pm
by OkaPoka
use ur best judgment and you will be judged as such

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:58 pm
by Euphony
and are hec-shiki and unserious; clearly my shiki-impersonation is just in a different realm.
In post 53, Drew-Sta wrote:Ok, so this poses an interesting issue. I react with an OMGUS, it looks like scum pretending to be town. I react aggressively and suggest meta on my games is simply coincidence and it looks like scumsplaining. I ignore it, and it looks like scum avoiding the issue.

You've painted me into a corner with meta that is about 6 years old (as I've only just started playing again). That's a fairly calculated move.
You've highlighted possible ways you
could
react to this, but what is your genuine reaction?

DoctarCoke, what alarms you about my partner's meta analysis?

Hard claiming
Field Marshal


( -_・) ︻デ═一 ▸Hectic

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:11 pm
by Drew-Sta
In post 58, Euphony wrote: and are hec-shiki and unserious; clearly my shiki-impersonation is just in a different realm.
In post 53, Drew-Sta wrote:Ok, so this poses an interesting issue. I react with an OMGUS, it looks like scum pretending to be town. I react aggressively and suggest meta on my games is simply coincidence and it looks like scumsplaining. I ignore it, and it looks like scum avoiding the issue.

You've painted me into a corner with meta that is about 6 years old (as I've only just started playing again). That's a fairly calculated move.
You've highlighted possible ways you
could
react to this, but what is your genuine reaction?

DoctarCoke, what alarms you about my partner's meta analysis?

Hard claiming
Field Marshal


( -_・) ︻デ═一 ▸Hectic
The point is I’m not. I’m trying to work out why you’d do that and you’re intending to use it for.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:13 pm
by Kanna
In post 51, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 50, Kanna wrote:Unless this is hec-shiki, I've skimread some of shiki's other games and they've made pretty out there deductions

pedit: VT claims shrink the pool of possible PRs, no?
Aren't we playing under the fact that most people are VTs anyway?

If anything, if they're actually a PR they can just opt.not to claim it
eh?

Ok, what kind of answer were you expecting from #43?

~k

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:15 pm
by DoctorPepper
In post 60, Kanna wrote:
In post 51, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 50, Kanna wrote:Unless this is hec-shiki, I've skimread some of shiki's other games and they've made pretty out there deductions

pedit: VT claims shrink the pool of possible PRs, no?
Aren't we playing under the fact that most people are VTs anyway?

If anything, if they're actually a PR they can just opt.not to claim it
eh?

Ok, what kind of answer were you expecting from #43?

~k
TBH I just need to know what Quantum quasar is doing.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:16 pm
by Kanna
In post 58, Euphony wrote:33 and 37 are hec-shiki and unserious; clearly my shiki-impersonation is just in a different realm.
I knew something was weird when shiki called OkaPoka "oogles boogles"...

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:16 pm
by Kanna
@DOCTORPEPPER; DO NOT DODGE MY QUESTION

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:22 pm
by DoctorPepper
In post 63, Kanna wrote:@DOCTORPEPPER; DO NOT DODGE MY QUESTION
That was the answer?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:23 pm
by DoctorPepper
QQ is a weird player and it seems to be a consistent pattern. I'm gonna try to get the point of what they're saying because none of it makes sense

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:25 pm
by Euphony
In post 59, Drew-Sta wrote:The point is I’m not. I’m trying to work out why you’d do that and you’re intending to use it for.
shiki is big on meta; she's metaed most of the people in the playerlist. You and oogle boogle have scum-indicative entrances so far. The oogle one we're going to wait a little on before revealing what it is.

You're a starting point to vote on. Do you think we have ill intentions?

-Hectic

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:27 pm
by Euphony
In post 62, Kanna wrote:
In post 58, Euphony wrote:33 and 37 are hec-shiki and unserious; clearly my shiki-impersonation is just in a different realm.
I knew something was weird when shiki called OkaPoka "oogles boogles"...
Isn't oogle boogle just an amazing name for him. If I was a sergeant, I would definitely be making him my general.

/¤> Hectic

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:29 pm
by Euphony
In post 63, Kanna wrote:@DOCTARRIBENA; DO NOT DODGE MY QUESTION
-Hectic

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:29 pm
by Kanna
In post 65, DoctorPepper wrote:QQ is a weird player and it seems to be a consistent pattern. I'm gonna try to get the point of what they're saying because none of it makes sense
Actually nevermind, I can see that

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:38 pm
by Drew-Sta
In post 66, Euphony wrote:
In post 59, Drew-Sta wrote:The point is I’m not. I’m trying to work out why you’d do that and you’re intending to use it for.
shiki is big on meta; she's metaed most of the people in the playerlist. You and oogle boogle have scum-indicative entrances so far. The oogle one we're going to wait a little on before revealing what it is.

You're a starting point to vote on. Do you think we have ill intentions?

-Hectic
I think basing your entire case on 6 year old meta then justifying it is... of interest. It sounds like you’re casting a shadow over me (and Oka) without even trying to independently verify whether we are town.

That’s unwise at best and will lead you to tunnel, and cause us problems as town down the track.

With regard to your intentions, casting doubt appears to be your aim. I find that problematic.

UNVOTE: Oka

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:53 pm
by Euphony
I can tell you're reading into it too much by calling it a "case". It's literally just a starting point.

Are you unvoting Oogle Boogle because of what I mentioned about him?

J**^ Hectic

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:08 pm
by Euphony

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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:14 pm
by GeorgeBailey
What is it you want, Mary? What do you want? You want the moon? Just say the word and I'll throw a lasso around it and pull it down.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:14 pm
by GeorgeBailey
Hey. That's a pretty good idea. I'll give you the moon, Mary.