A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]

[Gentleman 6]

So if there are
TM
TM
TM
TT
TT
TT
TT
TT

then above.

Also, mafia could get excluded from the dance today, so that's a factor. But the catch is that there could be a MM pairing, and then we lose at

TM
TT
MM

or
TT
MM

etc

Am I understanding the setup right?

[Lady 6]

we need 2 pairs that we are reasonably confident on

these should be outside the IC pair as he is likely dying in intermission

[Lady 2]

Maybe I am wrong, but this doesn't strike me as the kind of setup where someone would try and fake a town slip.

I mean if you can convincingly fake a townslip as scum you always should. Probably more player dependent than anything.

[Lady 6]

I am cool calling Sans 1 town now. I get why people are hesitant to call people town over such minor things but I really think scum would have thought about how they need to win and how they lose to town. It is at least something needed to be faked not something that came out naturally.

I also find these kind of "haha gotcha" reads tend to have higher accuracy then body of works reads since that is what scum tend to put in the effort to try and fake.

it's not a town slip

I do think Sans 1 was genuinely confused about how this setup works, but I think that easily happens as either alignment.

setup spec isn't really alignment indicative no matter how one is approaching it and it's a very easy thing for mafia to look townie behind

i do however think lady 7 as town is a good take?

[Lady 6]

Maybe I am wrong, but this doesn't strike me as the kind of setup where someone would try and fake a town slip.

I mean if you can convincingly fake a townslip as scum you always should. Probably more player dependent than anything.

it's player dependent but given the response of most of the playerlist, most wouldn't even see it as a townsliip to begin with

it's like

possible

but I do not share Lady 7's confidence on Sans

[Lady 6]

Also, mafia could get excluded from the dance today, so that's a factor. But the catch is that there could be a MM pairing, and then we lose atTMTTMMorTTMMetcAm I understanding the setup right?

yes but it is suboptimal for mafia to pair with each other

[Lady 5]

I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either

[Lady 5]

I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either

[Lady 5]

I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either

[Lady 5]

...the internet is dumb

[Lady 6]

I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either

[Lady 7]

I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either

[Gentleman 4]

Yeah, my internet is pretty bad too. Don't really have any gutreads yet rip
pedit: huh

[Lady 2]

I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either

[Lady 2]

I think it was the site, not your internet. I was having connection issues for a minute there too.

[Lady 6]

gentleman scarf person 6, I'm interested in any thoughts you have not related to setup or out of game stuff

[Gentleman 4]

I think a MM pairing would be unlikely for the scum because it's twice the risk.

[Gentleman 1]

I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either

[Lady 3]

I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either

[Gentleman 4]

You should stop spamming the thread. I don't see how Lady 7 is trying to get towncred. It is risky for maf to pair with IC, but it doesn't seem like she is trying to do that.

[Gentleman 6]

gentleman scarf person 6, I'm interested in any thoughts you have not related to setup or out of game stuff

That's totally fair, I'm still figuring out the setup.

I'm getting a really strong townread on Gentleman 8 for some reason, not sure why. Other than that, no reads yet. I will keep y'all updated

[Lady 6]

I think a MM pairing would be unlikely for the scum because it's twice the risk.

yes

you can argue WIFOM but it literally doesn't change how the game is played at all except for making it one pair easier for town

assuming it's not getting down to 3 pairs with no mafia kills

[Lady 6]

gentleman scarf person 6, I'm interested in any thoughts you have not related to setup or out of game stuff

That's totally fair, I'm still figuring out the setup.

I'm getting a really strong townread on Gentleman 8 for some reason, not sure why. Other than that, no reads yet. I will keep y'all updated

no gentleman 8 is mafia

no thoughts on Lady 7's townslip idea?

[Lady 2]

I'm getting a really strong townread on Gentleman 8 for some reason, not sure why.

I had to ISO him before I remembered lol. Well memed.

[Lady 3]

I do actually agree that the “townslip” itself isn’t very AI but Lady 7 seeing it as a townslip feels somewhat > rand town