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[Raya36]

Thank you, I will clarify that

[jankofan]

well, I kinda think its ico/aldus/npom now that bob is green and I'd lock that in tbh.
Lmao at everyone assuming datisi conf-scum after your flip Billy
pretty confident that ico is scum at this stage, not sure why he's being given the towncred he has been so far?

still townreading koba and Andres and vp. datisi is locktown.
testa is like scummy imo? testa or aldus/ico/npom maybe? just trying to make sense of my townreads and the idea that not ever member of scum were on my wagon.

yeah, I think npom/ico probably distanced unless I've gone wrong with my town reads or have forgotten about a player

[jankofan]

oh yeah hellbooks.
okay testa>hellbooks> the other three (disk ico npom) right now for me.
probably could narrow it down further but ceebs reading closely

[Billy Pilgrim]

Baltar being a pt cop with masons in game feels like a nice dwarfed investigative to go with masons with power in the mason pool, so im good with town!baltar. If he's scum then great fakeclaim there because it got me.

These nightkills feel weird.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Spoiler:

I have additional information that will probably come out today if massclaim happens or maybe when Baltar claims his result, so i don't wanna participate in solve guesses quite yet.

This just details that I have information. Doesn't say what it is but says when it may come out.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Shit shit shit shit. God town power really collassaly fucked up (this includes me). No way Baltar is scum now (unless a holy shit 3000 iq scum play) and the other two masons are outted. Fun fun. So scum in Testa, Andres, koba, NPOM (how the fuck is this one still alive), icon, and aldus.

Ugh, I wanna townlock testa for the effort, but thats a dumb reason. NPOM should get flipped today. If thats red I think there needs to be a second look at Koba.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Oh that last post from Test was kinda scummy. Dead mason and Datisi is pretty confirmed my claiming my tracker result. Then confirms hellbooks. Why throw shade on the masons now. Like that doesn't come from town right? That comes from scum worrying about running out of mis-eliminations right?

[Menalque]

Huh, so hellbooks is a mason too

The problem with baltar is that 1 informed scum (there are masons in the game) would make his claim really good as scum and informed scum vs 3 masons seems balanced to me? Esp if town also has the tracker in the masons

But also lol shit like this is why I basically only play opens now

[Menalque]

I would kill aldus today

[Menalque]

Okay, so like initial impressions fall somewhere along the lines of

Datisi

, icon, NPOM,

snowblaze

Testa

Hellbooks

Jankofan

Andres, dkkoba

VP Baltar

,

Billy Pilgrim

, aldus

GeorgeBailey

Ehh not great not awful, considering how much attention I was paying

So like

Datisi, hellbooks
Baltar
Dk, NPOM
Icon/Testa
Andres
Aldus

Is a possible readslist, I’m not at all caught up

I don’t like that billy was killed after datisi claimed tracker. That feels like it comes from someone who knows her which would be icon or aldus

Aldus just independently looks like his scum meta from an ISO skim

I took a look at dk’s scum meta out of interest a little while back and think he’s probably out of it? He has a wider range than I thought if he’s scum here, he seemed like he struggled a lot more to maintain activity as scum. If I was paying more attention I’d try to parse how much of his posting this game is fluff vs content

Baltar I’m like trusting datisi’s impression that his claim was towning

NPOM has apparently been fighting with everyone from what people are saying and that’s generally town

So like PoE would say that alongside aldus like 2/3 of (icon, testa, Andres)

Andres I’ve been lowkey scumreading when I have looked at the game. I looked at my ISO here and apparently I thought icon was only lightly town and could be powerscumming so he goes down for still being alive and not having been on scum. Testa just feels like she has less things to townread than the others

[Menalque]

Spoiler:

Official Vote Count 1.19

Cereus repandus "Peruvian Apple Cactus"

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Elimination

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate someone.

bob3141

(5): VP Baltar, hellbooks, Andresvmb, jankofan, NoPowerOverMe

jankofan

(7)

: Datisi, bob3141, Testarossa, Iconeum, Billy Pilgrim, GeorgeBailey, Alduskkel

NoPowerOverMe

(1): DkKoba

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-13 23:15:00).

Mod notes:

I don't have proper mod powers here so I can't lock this thread.

The day is over. Please don't post.

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Official Vote Count 2.05

Greenovia dodrantalis (Rose Succulent)

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Elimination

With 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate someone.

bob3141

(5): Andresvmb, VP Baltar, NoPowerOverMe, hellbooks, Iconeum

NoPowerOverMe

(3): Billy Pilgrim, Datisi, Alduskkel

Hellbooks

(1): DkKoba

Not Voting

(2): bob3141, Testarossa

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-20 07:15:00).

Mod notes:

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Official Vote Count 2.06

Trachyandra Tortilis

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Elimination

With 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate someone.

bob3141

(6)

: Andresvmb, VP Baltar, hellbooks, Iconeum, DkKoba, NoPowerOverMe

NoPowerOverMe

(2): Billy Pilgrim, Alduskkel

Alduskkel

(1): bob3141

Not Voting

(2): Testarossa, Datisi

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-20 07:15:00).

Mod notes:

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At a glance idk if these VCs support that readslist tho

[Menalque]

Official Vote Count 1.12

Echeveria "Black Prince"

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Elimination

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate someone.

Snowblaze

(4): GeorgeBailey, VP Baltar, Iconeum, hellbooks

Testarossa

(4): DkKoba, Alduskkel, Andresvmb, jankofan

Andresvmb

(2): Testarossa, Snowblaze

jankofan

(3): Datisi, NoPowerOverMe, Billy Pilgrim

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-13 23:15:00).

Mod notes:

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This one too

[Menalque]

Yeah idk if scum would distance at that point while wagons are so contested? Like it could flip over onto a partner quite easily?

So if Andres + aldus are scum maybe it’s like icon/dk? But equally I’m not really thinking about NPOM rn

[Menalque]

Eh so I caved and iso skimmed

I think I’d just eliminate aldus -> Andres -> dk

at this point, the dk iso was very empty and just loads of filler from the excerpt I looked at

If any of them are town then at least if 2/3 are scum it buys town one more good NK maybe? Like if baltar doesn’t die in the next 2 nights he has to be scum now the masons are entirely outed

It could still be baltar tbf

[Billy Pilgrim]

Andres feels town right now unless this is scum theather, but unclear why icon is out of their poe pool

[Billy Pilgrim]

Also, the dead sheeping by Andres makes me think that explains the weird NKs and that he's scum... but i also think Aldus is probably scum and I dont think that those two are S/S. Christ I think im glad dead.

[jankofan]

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@mena pretty sure on balance that town!ptcop *makes* the setup a lot more than scum!ptcop does. Like it just seems like a more fun role to put in this setup?

[jankofan]

I'm not sure how I keep quoting stuff on accident ffs

Also still convinced andres is town. My final suggestion for a scumteam is testa, icon and dusk

[Menalque]

does datisi still think icon is town? I haven't been following but would prob sheep her there if she does

also it would be like karmic rebalancing of the universe if in a phantom world where my vote counted I sheeped datisi's TR on icon to allow him to win as scum

[Menalque]

I dont think that those two are S/S

y tho?

[Menalque]

pretty sure on balance that town!ptcop *makes* the setup a lot more than scum!ptcop does. Like it just seems like a more fun role to put in this setup?

like I don't think that Baltar is actually a scum!ptcop

I'm saying if the balance is not

3 masons + 1 is tracker
pt cop

vs

???

it might be

3 masons + 1 is tracker

vs

scum informed there are masons

which I would say is prob balanced, and which lends itself to a ptcop fake claim if you need to as scum

[Menalque]

also like... gbailz is lowkey a weird person to be checking there? like if he is town it's not *that* important to clear him and if he's scum he's like prob on the chopping block anyway

it would make far more sense to check like... npom/dk/icon there if you're town imo

[Billy Pilgrim]

I dont think that those two are S/S

y tho?

Probably because my reads are ass. But also, that just feels more genuine to me than not.

[jankofan]

pretty sure on balance that town!ptcop *makes* the setup a lot more than scum!ptcop does. Like it just seems like a more fun role to put in this setup?

like I don't think that Baltar is actually a scum!ptcop

I'm saying if the balance is not

3 masons + 1 is tracker
pt cop

vs

???

it might be

3 masons + 1 is tracker

vs

scum informed there are masons

which I would say is prob balanced, and which lends itself to a ptcop fake claim if you need to as scum

oh, true? that actually sounds p neat and puts together some puzzle pieces.

[Menalque]

I think andres has a significantly above average scumgame based on what I'm reading over at 451