well, I kinda think its ico/aldus/npom now that bob is green and I'd lock that in tbh.
Lmao at everyone assuming datisi conf-scum after your flip Billy
pretty confident that ico is scum at this stage, not sure why he's being given the towncred he has been so far?
still townreading koba and Andres and vp. datisi is locktown.
testa is like scummy imo? testa or aldus/ico/npom maybe? just trying to make sense of my townreads and the idea that not ever member of scum were on my wagon.
yeah, I think npom/ico probably distanced unless I've gone wrong with my town reads or have forgotten about a player
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:02 am
by jankofan
oh yeah hellbooks.
okay testa>hellbooks> the other three (disk ico npom) right now for me.
probably could narrow it down further but ceebs reading closely
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:42 am
by Billy Pilgrim
Baltar being a pt cop with masons in game feels like a nice dwarfed investigative to go with masons with power in the mason pool, so im good with town!baltar. If he's scum then great fakeclaim there because it got me.
These nightkills feel weird.
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:44 am
by Billy Pilgrim
Spoiler:
I have additional information that will probably come out today if massclaim happens or maybe when Baltar claims his result, so i don't wanna participate in solve guesses quite yet.
This just details that I have information. Doesn't say what it is but says when it may come out.
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:52 am
by Billy Pilgrim
Shit shit shit shit. God town power really collassaly fucked up (this includes me). No way Baltar is scum now (unless a holy shit 3000 iq scum play) and the other two masons are outted. Fun fun. So scum in Testa, Andres, koba, NPOM (how the fuck is this one still alive), icon, and aldus.
Ugh, I wanna townlock testa for the effort, but thats a dumb reason. NPOM should get flipped today. If thats red I think there needs to be a second look at Koba.
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:19 am
by Billy Pilgrim
Oh that last post from Test was kinda scummy. Dead mason and Datisi is pretty confirmed my claiming my tracker result. Then confirms hellbooks. Why throw shade on the masons now. Like that doesn't come from town right? That comes from scum worrying about running out of mis-eliminations right?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:35 am
by Menalque
Huh, so hellbooks is a mason too
The problem with baltar is that 1 informed scum (there are masons in the game) would make his claim really good as scum and informed scum vs 3 masons seems balanced to me? Esp if town also has the tracker in the masons
But also lol shit like this is why I basically only play opens now
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:39 am
by Menalque
I would kill aldus today
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:48 am
by Menalque
In post 15, Menalque wrote:Okay, so like initial impressions fall somewhere along the lines of
Datisi
, icon, NPOM,
snowblaze
Testa
Hellbooks
Jankofan
Andres, dkkoba
VP Baltar
,
Billy Pilgrim
, aldus
GeorgeBailey
Ehh not great not awful, considering how much attention I was paying
So like
Datisi, hellbooks
Baltar
Dk, NPOM
Icon/Testa
Andres
Aldus
Is a possible readslist, I’m not at all caught up
I don’t like that billy was killed after datisi claimed tracker. That feels like it comes from someone who knows her which would be icon or aldus
Aldus just independently looks like his scum meta from an ISO skim
I took a look at dk’s scum meta out of interest a little while back and think he’s probably out of it? He has a wider range than I thought if he’s scum here, he seemed like he struggled a lot more to maintain activity as scum. If I was paying more attention I’d try to parse how much of his posting this game is fluff vs content
Baltar I’m like trusting datisi’s impression that his claim was towning
NPOM has apparently been fighting with everyone from what people are saying and that’s generally town
So like PoE would say that alongside aldus like 2/3 of (icon, testa, Andres)
Andres I’ve been lowkey scumreading when I have looked at the game. I looked at my ISO here and apparently I thought icon was only lightly town and could be powerscumming so he goes down for still being alive and not having been on scum. Testa just feels like she has less things to townread than the others
Yeah idk if scum would distance at that point while wagons are so contested? Like it could flip over onto a partner quite easily?
So if Andres + aldus are scum maybe it’s like icon/dk? But equally I’m not really thinking about NPOM rn
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:16 am
by Menalque
Eh so I caved and iso skimmed
I think I’d just eliminate aldus -> Andres -> dk
at this point, the dk iso was very empty and just loads of filler from the excerpt I looked at
If any of them are town then at least if 2/3 are scum it buys town one more good NK maybe? Like if baltar doesn’t die in the next 2 nights he has to be scum now the masons are entirely outed
It could still be baltar tbf
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:53 am
by Billy Pilgrim
Andres feels town right now unless this is scum theather, but unclear why icon is out of their poe pool
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:02 am
by Billy Pilgrim
Also, the dead sheeping by Andres makes me think that explains the weird NKs and that he's scum... but i also think Aldus is probably scum and I dont think that those two are S/S. Christ I think im glad dead.
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@mena pretty sure on balance that town!ptcop *makes* the setup a lot more than scum!ptcop does. Like it just seems like a more fun role to put in this setup?
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:24 am
by jankofan
I'm not sure how I keep quoting stuff on accident ffs
Also still convinced andres is town. My final suggestion for a scumteam is testa, icon and dusk
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:26 am
by Menalque
does datisi still think icon is town? I haven't been following but would prob sheep her there if she does
also it would be like karmic rebalancing of the universe if in a phantom world where my vote counted I sheeped datisi's TR on icon to allow him to win as scum
In post 66, jankofan wrote:pretty sure on balance that town!ptcop *makes* the setup a lot more than scum!ptcop does. Like it just seems like a more fun role to put in this setup?
like I don't think that Baltar is actually a scum!ptcop
I'm saying if the balance is not
3 masons + 1 is tracker
pt cop
vs
???
it might be
3 masons + 1 is tracker
vs
scum informed there are masons
which I would say is prob balanced, and which lends itself to a ptcop fake claim if you need to as scum
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:31 am
by Menalque
also like... gbailz is lowkey a weird person to be checking there? like if he is town it's not *that* important to clear him and if he's scum he's like prob on the chopping block anyway
it would make far more sense to check like... npom/dk/icon there if you're town imo
In post 66, jankofan wrote:pretty sure on balance that town!ptcop *makes* the setup a lot more than scum!ptcop does. Like it just seems like a more fun role to put in this setup?
like I don't think that Baltar is actually a scum!ptcop
I'm saying if the balance is not
3 masons + 1 is tracker
pt cop
vs
???
it might be
3 masons + 1 is tracker
vs
scum informed there are masons
which I would say is prob balanced, and which lends itself to a ptcop fake claim if you need to as scum
oh, true? that actually sounds p neat and puts together some puzzle pieces.
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:54 am
by Menalque
I think andres has a significantly above average scumgame based on what I'm reading over at 451