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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:07 am
by Hoopla
In post 48, Datisi wrote:yesterday i was skimming the run of pyp where skitt was scum, and i think someone there said it's happened once? the numbers being 2/2/6

i dunno if it's happened since, but i'm too lazy to check.

fwiw my guess weould've been something like 3 so
none.

that game you're talking about was open 630. the mod made a mistake and didn't let scum talk pregame, which resulted in two scum picking the same number. so, never willingly.

scum simply don't like sacrificing good draft position for potential WIFOM trickery. well, it isn't really WIFOM since scum never do it. we can fairly confidently declare there is only 1 (at most) scum within paired and tripled numbers.

you can even see visually that scum end up disproportionately higher in the draft compared to the bottom half. it's actually quite glaring how much of an advantage knowing two other numbers and avoiding them can be;

draft positions of 42 scum in 14 PYP games:


1st - xxx
2nd - xxxxx
3rd - xxx
4th - xxx
5th - xxxxxx
6th - xxx
7th - xxx
8th - xxx
9th - xxxxx
10th - xx
11th - x
12th -x
13th - xx
14th - xx


we execute in the top half of the playerlist today, and preferably a singleton.

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:12 am
by Hoopla
In post 49, Datisi wrote:this made me worry that hoopla is the scum doubling up, then i looked at the draft and i see both she and ico picked 5 and i thought "pls no"
just for the sake of transparency, i have doubled up as scum in a team mafia PYP game many years ago. me/zito/faraday choose 6/6/9 i believe?

i believe that is the only time its happened if you include the other 4-5 non-central park PYP games.

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:13 am
by Datisi
In post 50, Hoopla wrote:
draft positions of 42 scum in 14 PYP games:


1st - xxx
2nd - xxxxx
3rd - xxx
4th - xxx
5th - xxxxxx

6th - xxx
7th - xxx
8th - xxx
9th - xxxxx
10th - xx
11th - x
12th -x
13th - xx
14th - xx
In post 2, davesaz wrote:
All picks are in, the draft order (randomized within sets picking the same number) is as follows:

DrDolittle 8
Something_Smart 9
Umlaut 21
Marquis 1
Datisi 1

Clover Ebi 3
the worst 3
Hoopla 5
Iconeum 5
Grumpy Cat 11
Gypyx 11
word321 4
iamausername 4
Green Crayons 4
Image

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:14 am
by Datisi
hmm, have you checked how often scum goes for "low" numbers as opposed to "high" numbers, or a mix within the two?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:15 am
by Gypyx
In post 33, Datisi wrote:should i townlean ico off of page 1-2 shitposting? no. will that stop me? also no.
Is it just the fact that ico was shitposting that makes him a townlean? Cuz pretty much everyone is doing it

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:15 am
by Gypyx
In post 36, Iconeum wrote:VOTE: gypix

Always trust datisi gut early game
There is no Gypix in this game

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:16 am
by Iconeum
busted

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:16 am
by Hoopla
In post 52, Datisi wrote: Image
it gets worse;

draft numbers selected by 42 scum across 14 games;


1 - xxxxxxxx
2 - xxx
3 - xxx
4 - xxxx
5 - xxxx
6 - xxxx
7 - x
8 - xxx
9 - x
10 - xx
11 - x
12 - x
13 - x
15 - x
20 - x
22 - x
42 - xx
413 - x

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:17 am
by Datisi
In post 54, Gypyx wrote:
In post 33, Datisi wrote:should i townlean ico off of page 1-2 shitposting? no. will that stop me? also no.
Is it just the fact that ico was shitposting that makes him a townlean? Cuz pretty much everyone is doing it
yes but ico is doing it in a ToWnY way

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:18 am
by Iconeum
here we go

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:18 am
by Datisi
In post 57, Hoopla wrote:[snip]
well then
guess it's over
VOTE: datisi
ggwp

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:25 am
by Iconeum
In post 55, Gypyx wrote:
In post 36, Iconeum wrote:VOTE: gypix

Always trust datisi gut early game
There is no Gypix in this game
sorry

VOTE: gipyx

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:30 am
by Gypyx
Damn, Iconeum going for the fake vote gambits

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:31 am
by Hoopla
In post 60, Datisi wrote: well then
guess it's over
VOTE: datisi
ggwp
i gave you a few pages to hang out and have a laugh.

i'm not a monster, you know.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: datisi

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:35 am
by Datisi
ok that's enough self-voting for this game, wouldn't want this to spiral into an actual serious wagon now would we

VOTE: gypyx

hoopla, out of curiosity, why wasn't your RVS vote on one of the 1's?

gypyx, do you have an opinion on like anything that's happened

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:36 am
by Iconeum
holy shit datisi is basicly caught scum

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:37 am
by Iconeum
luckily for them i'm already solidly pocketed so it's ok

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:40 am
by Hoopla
In post 64, Datisi wrote:ok that's enough self-voting for this game, wouldn't want this to spiral into an actual serious wagon now would we

VOTE: gypyx

hoopla, out of curiosity, why wasn't your RVS vote on one of the 1's?

gypyx, do you have an opinion on like anything that's happened
in actuality, i'd probably prefer to wagon a player who hasn't been doubled/tripled up.

but i am amused at your slot hitting the jackpot on two separate metrics.

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:43 am
by Iconeum
i'm not sure if i wanna do a mech approach to this game tbh

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:43 am
by Green Crayons
VOTE: Ico

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:44 am
by Datisi
In post 67, Hoopla wrote:in actuality, i'd probably prefer to wagon a player who hasn't been doubled/tripled up.

but i am amused at your slot hitting the jackpot on two separate metrics.
that's what i was wondering about when asking "is scum more likely to pick small numbers?", just because scum is unlikely to double up with *each other* doesn't mean scum is unlikely to double up with townies if they happened to pick numbers that scum often picks

this feels like a garbled thought but whatever

i'm also not sure how much mech i wanna approach this game with

and yeah, i had a 50% chance of getting the draft position that's historically twice as likely to contain scum, woo

pedit: oh look ico it's starting

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:44 am
by Gypyx
I kinda like Hoopla throwing some number analysis for us, but at the same time i don't like her avoiding to take a stance on me, not sure how to read that

You (daitsi) have some pretty susp placement, but i'm waiting to see more

Smart's entrance is kinda weird ngl, but that's mainly my gut

VOTE: something smart

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:45 am
by Datisi
In post 71, Gypyx wrote:You
(daitsi)
have some pretty susp placement, but i'm waiting to see more
who?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:46 am
by Iconeum
In post 71, Gypyx wrote:I kinda like Hoopla throwing some number analysis for us, but at the same time i don't like her avoiding to take a stance on me, not sure how to read that

You (daitsi) have some pretty susp placement, but i'm waiting to see more

Smart's entrance is kinda weird ngl, but that's mainly my gut

VOTE: something smart
if we quickflip this, i think it will be red

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:47 am
by Datisi
is it bad that i agree

like the calling me ou of susp placement thing just feels fake?? not like a real thought??? i dunno

ico are you pocketing me