Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:05 am
HURT: Elements
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Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:07 am
HURT: Puppy
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:07 am
Redtea looked up at the huge, looming Hectic that Tayl0r Swift had described as being the "hurricane" that was going to hurt everyone. "Oh no!! We must send a sacrifice down the drain .. er, I mean, we must find a hero to save us!!" Redtea was surprised by how croaky their usually moist voice was.
They nudged Chara forward out from among the monsters, who nearly tripped as it stumbled forward.
"It's dangerous to go alone! Take this!" redtea added. They fumbled in their shell for something to "arm" Chara with, but Chara had no visible arms at all. So they produced a Crab Apple, and pushed it into Chara's mouth, leaving it looking like a sacrificial pig. "Huzzah! I know you can defeat it!" redtea adlibbed. Then they pushed Chara even further towards the hulking black mass.
They nudged Chara forward out from among the monsters, who nearly tripped as it stumbled forward.
"It's dangerous to go alone! Take this!" redtea added. They fumbled in their shell for something to "arm" Chara with, but Chara had no visible arms at all. So they produced a Crab Apple, and pushed it into Chara's mouth, leaving it looking like a sacrificial pig. "Huzzah! I know you can defeat it!" redtea adlibbed. Then they pushed Chara even further towards the hulking black mass.
With 12 alive and unspared, it takes 7 votes to make a decision.
The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-09-13 23:27:24)
The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-09-13 23:27:24)
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:23 am
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:28 am
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:33 am
HURT: hectic
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:55 am
@mod: would you mind adding majority to your votecounts? something like "with 12 alive it takes 7 to spare or fight" (i think that's the rignt number for today)
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:55 am
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:17 am
HEAL: Launchy
HURT: Chara
HURT: Chara
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:18 am
In post 49, Chara wrote:pedit: hm. i'll agree.
whichever one of you gives me a better/more convincing/funnier explanation on why you think so gets 5 free TownPoints™ [limited time offer] [batteries not included]
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:24 am
this is town afIn post 59, Tanner wrote:In post 49, Chara wrote:pedit: hm. i'll agree.
whichever one of you gives me a better/more convincing/funnier explanation on why you think so gets 5 free TownPoints™ [limited time offer] [batteries not included]
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:26 am
are you trying to pocket me again? because it's working
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:30 am
darn, i wanted you to scumread me. 
tanner/puppy townbloc it is then, but i'm not happy about it!
tanner/puppy townbloc it is then, but i'm not happy about it!Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:40 am
if we play with love in our hearts we can't lose
let us heal together through mutual love
let us heal together through mutual love
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:59 am
If we can be very very sure of our townreads, surely sparing is possible?
9:3 -> spare 1, 1 dies
7:3 -> spare 1, 1 dies, chara dies
5:2 -> spare 1, 1 dies
3:2 -> spare 1 and win
but if we make a mistake, we won't lose as long as it's not Chara on d1/d2. We can spare 1 mafia and then we like do an extra spare on d4 and go to
4:1 -> vote on mafia or lose
Wait so if we spare 4 people correctly but spare 1 mafia along the way we get a single chance to win or lose the game by figuring out who that person is?
Okay, nevermind this route is kinda trash. I wanted to play by sparing!!!
has anyone figured out the merit of the 1-3 spared players plan, or is genocide just objectively better too
9:3 -> spare 1, 1 dies
7:3 -> spare 1, 1 dies, chara dies
5:2 -> spare 1, 1 dies
3:2 -> spare 1 and win
but if we make a mistake, we won't lose as long as it's not Chara on d1/d2. We can spare 1 mafia and then we like do an extra spare on d4 and go to
4:1 -> vote on mafia or lose
Wait so if we spare 4 people correctly but spare 1 mafia along the way we get a single chance to win or lose the game by figuring out who that person is?
Okay, nevermind this route is kinda trash. I wanted to play by sparing!!!
has anyone figured out the merit of the 1-3 spared players plan, or is genocide just objectively better too
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:07 am
I think 1-3 could be better in one or two cases. 0 is better if chara gets fought, but 1-3 is better if no scum get eliminated (though that would depend on chara living which is unlikely?) Hm, maybe 0 spares straight up is betterIn post 1, Isis wrote:One to three : The mafia must choose an unspared player to be publicly investigated for each living mafia. Skip night 4. Return spared players to the game thread. If mafia was spared, the mafia immediately wins if two of its players survive the day 5 decision.
Zero : The mafia must choose two players to be publicly investigated. If Chara was fought, the mafia must choose everyone. Skip night 4.
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:16 am
i think a 1 spare route maybe, maybe has merit in certain conditions... are the spared players considered to be "living"?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:20 am
(￣▽￣)ノ 0 spares is better EXCEPT for the specific instance we reach 5p with 2 mafia alive, at which point sparing someone gives 2 reveals and a guaranteed 33% chance of town winning (whereas normally in that situation it would be 2/5*1/2 = 20%)
I could post the math if anyone demands I show my work (I ran the numbers pregame and am very grateful to have rolled town here) but really just want to move on from this as fast as possible~
I could post the math if anyone demands I show my work (I ran the numbers pregame and am very grateful to have rolled town here) but really just want to move on from this as fast as possible~
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:23 am
yeah, that's what i was thinking, but haven't ran the numbers because lazy.
wanna talk to me about your vote on puppy?
wanna talk to me about your vote on puppy?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:25 am
its only trash if we spare the bad guysIn post 64, Morning Tweet wrote:If we can be very very sure of our townreads, surely sparing is possible?
9:3 -> spare 1, 1 dies
7:3 -> spare 1, 1 dies, chara dies
5:2 -> spare 1, 1 dies
3:2 -> spare 1 and win
but if we make a mistake, we won't lose as long as it's not Chara on d1/d2. We can spare 1 mafia and then we like do an extra spare on d4 and go to
4:1 -> vote on mafia or lose
Wait so if we spare 4 people correctly but spare 1 mafia along the way we get a single chance to win or lose the game by figuring out who that person is?
Okay, nevermind this route is kinda trash. I wanted to play by sparing!!!
has anyone figured out the merit of the 1-3 spared players plan, or is genocide just objectively better too
if we only spare obvtown players we will win ez
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:26 am
o(^・x・^)o Didn't like the immediate townread on you for a post that looked null to me and the big pile of questions looked like posturingIn post 68, Tanner wrote:yeah, that's what i was thinking, but haven't ran the numbers because lazy.
wanna talk to me about your vote on puppy?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 am
spare me!
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:02 am
yes but we aren't given feedback about whether or not the spare was correct, so like if we spare the 4(5) most obvtown players, and we don't win the game, then what!?!In post 69, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
its only trash if we spare the bad guys
if we only spare obvtown players we will win ez
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:26 am
scum also gets to kill one of the obvtown players each night, so we actually need 7 people to be obvtown... and there's 9 townies in the game. those are... not good odds.
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:29 am
thats why we only do 1 obs town person per day