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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:05 am
by Frogsterking
In post 33, Trendall wrote:Every time I do an OCEAN test or indeed any psychometric tests I get different results, but it seems that I become more and more well balanced over the years

Extraversion - 56%
Agreeableness - 51%
Conscientiousness - 33%
Openness - 59%
Neuroticism - 57%

In reality I am just 100% neuroticism and nothing else, but they never quite ask the right questions.

VOTE: Bugspray
Thank you for filling it out. Where did you find this?

I'm also curious if you're a part of a death metal band..

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:06 am
by Trendall
Slating personality tests is really one of those 'world's most non-controversial opinions' things, where you'll get like ten people all agreeing with each other saying 'personality tests are so dumb!', as if each individual one thinks they're this lone minority voice crusading against the hordes of people who love personality tests. Then if you engage with them they'll tell you that people can't be put into boxes.

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1. When was the first time you played mafia and do you remember if you liked it?


Years ago some of my friends invited me to play on a private message board, and I don't remember the game too well but I discovered this website and got fascinated by the game reading about the different roles and so on.

2. Why are you playing this current game of mafia now?


Cause I normally play the newbie games, but I joined a mini game a while back and found it really fun, so now I'm trying another one.

3. What is your favorite mafia-like game now? (including games like Among Us and Secret Hitler)


Nothing ever beats epicmafia

4. How many people would you say you interact with offline on a typical day?


There is really no such thing as a 'typical day' for me in terms of whom I interact with, but over the past few weeks it's gonna average out at like 3-4 per day.

5. How many people would you say you interact with online on a typical day?


Really wouldn't know

6. How often do you tell stories?


Not sure I understand the question

7. Do you think that lying is ever OK?


No

8. Do you lie more often online than offline?


Presumably offline, I'm not sure what I'd lie about online exactly or why

9. How good are you at lying?


I wouldn't know because it might be that people know that I'm lying to them and are being too polite to tell me. I generally just prefer to tell the truth, so I hardly get to practice. But I don't remember ever being caught in a situation that I couldn't immediately talk my way out of.

10. Would you rather talk to someone in-person or online?


In person, and then if we don't get to see each other in person v often then msg me constantly every day x

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:11 am
by GeorgeBailey
Votecount 1.3

Frogsterking(3)
~ (5), (4), (14)

NoPowerOverMe(2)
~ (1), (1)
OutWorldER(1)
~ (5)
Lunar Martian(1)
~ (1)
Gamma Emerald(1)
~ (1)
bugspray(1)
~ (2)
AGamblingPig(1)
~ (2)


Not Voting (3): Momrangal(3), Grendel(0), Frogsterking(6)

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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:13 am
by Frogsterking
Wow thank you for cooperating Trendall, I'm curious if you've ever been part of a death metal band or other band?

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:25 am
by Trendall
Yeah I've been in loads of bands, not death metal though.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:26 am
by Frogsterking
VOTE: LunarMartian

Right now my main scum reads are LunarMartian and NoPowerOverMe.

Between these two I find LunarMartian the most sketch.

Everyone else I read as town so far.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:29 am
by bugspray
[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12435057]
Everyone else I read as town so far.[/quote]
Why am I town?

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:35 am
by Frogsterking
In post 56, bugspray wrote:[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12435057]
Everyone else I read as town so far.
Why am I town?
[/quote]

You seem genuine and are trying to scum hunt a realistic amount. You don't seem like much of an actor or lawyer so I find the way you're scumhunting more AI because I don't believe you're scumgame looks very similar to your towngame.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:39 am
by Frogsterking
In addition to appearing genuine you strike me as impulsive.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:50 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I don't think your tendency to equate personality traits with scumminess is productive.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:10 am
by Gamma Emerald
NPOM why are you being an ass
Like, I think what frogster is trying to do is a decent thing to try. RQS/whatever he calls his thing isn’t always bad, I think certain types of questions are more salient than others. Why are you tossing out the whole damn set because you’re pissy he prefaced it with a personality test? I don’t picture you as the type to just mark RQS as a scum play on principle.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:15 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 42, Frogsterking wrote:Instead of being random the questions are based on things that will give us information for the rest of the game. My ideas are just theories but I can link to actual evidence to support my inclusions of these questions.
This is like, the real point of doing RQS outside of being an RVS substitute
So like, in essence I don’t feel like your thing differs from RQS in anything but name.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:16 am
by Frogsterking
In post 59, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I don't think your tendency to equate personality traits with scumminess is productive.
I don't like the lack of insight here, I think NoPowerOverMe is smart and picking this fight for a reason. I believe that even if NoPowerOverMe were town and just couldn't follow what I'm saying he would be able to communicate his thoughts with more clarity because communication is his strength (and listening is his weakness.) He's acting like both communicating and listening are his weaknesses, but really he's good at communicating and is being evasive at certain moments by pretending to miss the point or by being unspecific about his thoughts.
In post 21, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 14, NoPowerOverMe wrote:By the way I have drawn town 9 out of 10 times and that sucks because I love playing as scum.
Something feels off about this post.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe
I think Lunar Martian noticed something was off about NoPowerOverMe's post because they're super-conscious of being partners because it's new. Similar to my opinion of NoPowerOverMe's evasiveness and lack of clarity I find Lunar's description here about what he was thinking to be evasive in a way that also has a lot of potential to be AI.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:29 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 42, Frogsterking wrote:OK where did u find this?
You seem to ask this to everyone that has done it at this point, but you’ve indicated you want the OCEAN profile to be done
before
the other questions. Why are you getting like this at people doing things in the order you want?

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:29 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I have more going on than just this Mafia game thank you very much.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:30 am
by NoPowerOverMe
Also my posting style is nai

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:32 am
by Gamma Emerald
No one’s gotten on you for not posting, what the fuck?

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:34 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I'm referring to the claim that I'm evasive and I don't post complete thoughts.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:36 am
by Gamma Emerald
Evasive doesn’t mean you’re dodging the thread, it refers to your response to questions thrown at you. You haven’t touched mine at all, so I’m inclined to agree with frogster.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:47 am
by NoPowerOverMe
The only question that I see from you is why I'm being an ass and I don't think you need to be nice to find scum.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:47 am
by NoPowerOverMe
My scumdar has been highly effective lately and I am trusting my instincts

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:49 am
by Gamma Emerald
I had another question in that post. Here it is again, restated to fit the changed context:
Why do you think the 10 questions that are not based on the OCEAN profile are not worth your time?

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:56 am
by NoPowerOverMe
Personality test are always the worst part of a hiring process when you submit an application for work

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:05 pm
by Trendall
Yeah workplaces shouldn't use them.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:11 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 72, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Personality test are always the worst part of a hiring process when you submit an application for work
Nice, a truism.