The "most skilled player" argument is meaningless, if a perfect player ever existed, everything would be nai for that person. The whole reason why we're here is because no one is perfect, I have no idea why this is even being raised as a defense.
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:06 am
by T3
Putting /s is not alignment indicative. It's kind of like saying in real life: "I killed your mom"
Someone could take that completely literally if they didn't perceive it was a joke.
In post 44, Demainer wrote:This, and her first post. Town has nothing to hide, nothing to fear, why add an unnecessary /s to make sure no one misinterprets the post?
You're not the first person who has said this. This applies even to real life privacy vs surveillance issues.
The mentality is wrong. If you are innocent, you still should fear appearing guilty, especially in a gane like mafia. Going "I'm innocent haha if you got an issue vote me and find out bitches!" Is not really appropriate for town to have.
Imagine the most skilled player of mafia possible, are they equally careful to towntell as either alignment or only careful as scum?
The answer is equal.
LMAO not gonna lie, if you all gangup on me, that's 100% my attitude "fine vote me out and see what I flip, you clearly didn't want me anyways"
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:22 am
by Andante
Demain is already leaning town for me, I love this. T3 is leaning scum, I don't understand a hard TR this early unless like you 2 are masons and you're deciding to out that this early - really dumb move if yall are
UNVOTE:
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:23 am
by T3
In post 55, Andante wrote:Demain is already leaning town for me, I love this. T3 is leaning scum, I don't understand a hard TR this early unless like you 2 are masons and you're deciding to out that this early - really dumb move if yall are
UNVOTE:
shush
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:27 am
by T3
Vibes and early solvyness, basically.
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:41 am
by Clasko
In post 25, RationalMadman wrote:T3 supporting me is easily to soften me up and/or to frame me if T3 flips scum later.
In post 26, RationalMadman wrote:T3 may be town, on balance, because of how actively he defended Ivy agaibst Demainer wheb he noticed she was 2/5 and Demainer's response to T3 was worth scum reading somewhat.
Do you have a preference between labelling him town/mafia here? You seem conflicted.
In post 41, T3 wrote:Also what are everyone's thoughts on Demainer. His meta seems very different to 2060.
Nothing is pinging me to a change in meta for him. He is playing and posting as I would expect him to rn based on 2060.
In post 14, orctin wrote:Cause it's a good play for a scummie to push on anther who made a high profile post. at the very least it attracts attention where scum want it - away from them.
Eh, I'm getting "helpful for the sake of appearing helpful" vibes from this:
VOTE: orctin
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:42 am
by Rathe
In post 40, T3 wrote:For me Rational is strong town and Andante is lean scum. Explain?
i understood andantes post to be tongue in cheek not serious
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:42 am
by Clasko
In post 6, Ivyeo wrote:VOTE: Clasko
It's impossible to be Pr twice in a row
/s
Also, I skipped over this, how dare you >:c
c;
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:43 am
by Rathe
ivyeos reaction made me think
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:43 am
by Rathe
n rational reaction to andante made me think
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:45 am
by Rathe
In post 42, RationalMadman wrote:How often? Usually town do, especially when it's a quick reply to someone random voting them on nonsense reasoning.
dont have numbers but ive seen it mafia sometimes don’t know how to react
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:46 am
by orctin
So at this point most the basis or accusations on because of Andante's opening post and Rationals response to it. Logically scum doesn't want to try to attract attention early on, it's better play for them to try to lay low to some extent and let town make mistakes lynching their own. Except for that rare scummie who just doesn't care and wants to go gun's a blazing
Rational seems to be a heavy poster - quick to search out rabbit holes it seems
Andante - aside from one joke post which was probably cause she played with that person before, nothing much
T3 seems to be reactive - Basically questioning post from different people
Demainer basically a simple - someone is guilty post with nothing behind it
Jackson - seems to a fun early post - then a logical one
Ivy - couple simple short post, nothing more
If i had to gut read anyone right now it would be Rational - playing the guns a blazing scummie out to prove themselves town to quickly
Vote: Rational
Since ya'll seem to like the early voting without much backing it or chance for people to discuss much yet, but it's also day 1 so probably not going to get a lot out of people
In post 6, Ivyeo wrote:VOTE: Clasko
It's impossible to be Pr twice in a row
/s
Also, I skipped over this, how dare you >:c
c;
I understood that reference lol
/giggle
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:49 am
by orctin
and teach me to learn - didnt' see we were on page 3 - i was still on just page 1
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:59 am
by RationalMadman
That long post from Orctin has to be the most nonsensical post I've ever seen someone justify a vote on.
Orctin just said that scum don't draw attention to themselves, I've actively done so.
Now I have two or is it three votes against me. Why is Orctin trying to force a claim from me this soon and then putting a disclaimer afterwards saying everyone is voting without reasoning?
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:00 am
by RationalMadman
Does T3 quoting Rahte's vote on me count as a vote?
In post 58, Clasko wrote:In post 25, RationalMadman wrote:
T3 supporting me is easily to soften me up and/or to frame me if T3 flips scum later.
In post 26, RationalMadman wrote:
T3 may be town, on balance, because of how actively he defended Ivy agaibst Demainer wheb he noticed she was 2/5 and Demainer's response to T3 was worth scum reading somewhat.
Do you have a preference between labelling him town/mafia here? You seem conflicted.
I am very undecided on T3 even at this exact stage. T3 is contributing but seems to be trying to create clear signals of alliance to me and I'm not certain why, I don't scumread him, he may be a rapid reader OR is saying those reads to gauge further from reactions to those reads.
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:07 am
by RationalMadman
I will like to update some things.
I have now begun to understand more about the game from interactions, somehow it's been revolving primarily around me but that's not a factor in my reads.
New townreads are: Rathe and Clasko.
New scumread is Orctin.
Read on Andante remains scumsided.
Read on JV still strong town.
Read on Ivyeo still soft town.
Read on all other players null.
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:08 am
by RationalMadman
I really will like Orctin to engage me further onnthe reasoning of that post he made.
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:24 am
by orctin
Like i said - i was still just on page 1
Your basically pushing extremely hard to try to make yourself look like a good townie trying to solve the whole dame on day 1 with little to nothing to back up that information your trying to deduce. Perhaps this who you are - i refer to that as people chasing rabbit holes, and your neck deep in them already
And agree with T3, he's bandwagonning basically at this point