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In post 46, Ydrasse wrote:...if we all no save scum literally just save one of themselves and can lie about what happened down here.

Yes.

That's why whoever gets saved gets eliminated anyway at best.

The play is to no save and force it.

Scum want a double save.

In post 42, Titus wrote:If it's 2 of the 3 of you, scum have to sacrifice their own.

but from my point of view i know that your plan would have to be hoping for exactly the other two if you’re town, and you say you are townreading one of those players, so

In post 49, Ydrasse wrote:

In post 47, Titus wrote:With my reads, there's no reason to save.

If you agree with the townblock being town, my strategy holds.

okay so... you let... scum go up when they save themselves and then lie about all of this and then another event happens where maybe they can do something to put themselves in a way better place

The next event could put scum that live in a better place regardless.

In post 51, ulyana wrote:

In post 42, Titus wrote:If it's 2 of the 3 of you, scum have to sacrifice their own.

but from my point of view i know that your plan would have to be hoping for exactly the other two if you’re town, and you say you are townreading one of those players, so

#confused rephrase

No saves murders one scum guaranteed.

sorry i just

can't fundamentally understand the mentality of /letting scum decide they can live/ over a town player in here instead of sending a town player up in the first place with what agency we can, especially when you seem frustrated about not being listened to/defended/etc all game

i really can't

Whoever lives can lie, save or not.

In post 55, Ydrasse wrote:sorry i just

can't fundamentally understand the mentality of /letting scum decide they can live/ over a town player in here instead of sending a town player up in the first place with what agency we can, especially when you seem frustrated about not being listened to/defended/etc all game

i really can't

You want to take a 33% odds you're right when no one trusts you?

When we can guarantee a scum death by not being egocentric?

it's not egocentric to say hm, maybe we should not let scum choose by default and have the luxury of sending their ~stronger player~

No one's letting me live anyway, so I might as well take scum with me.

In post 58, Ydrasse wrote:it's not egocentric to say hm, maybe we should not let scum choose by default and have the luxury of sending their ~stronger player~

Whoever lives gets autoeliminated in that case.

In post 53, Titus wrote:

In post 51, ulyana wrote:

In post 42, Titus wrote:If it's 2 of the 3 of you, scum have to sacrifice their own.

but from my point of view i know that your plan would have to be hoping for exactly the other two if you’re town, and you say you are townreading one of those players, so

#confused rephrase

it’s like, you say ‘this plan good’ because scum in me/ydrasse/sircakez, but i am town, so to me that leaves sircakez/ydrasse, and you saying sircakez town to you, so to me that just leaves your plan as ‘hope ydrasse is scum’, but ydrasse is the one player anyone has said they might send through anyway

In post 61, ulyana wrote:

In post 53, Titus wrote:

In post 51, ulyana wrote:

In post 42, Titus wrote:If it's 2 of the 3 of you, scum have to sacrifice their own.

but from my point of view i know that your plan would have to be hoping for exactly the other two if you’re town, and you say you are townreading one of those players, so

#confused rephrase

it’s like, you say ‘this plan good’ because scum in me/ydrasse/sircakez, but i am town, so to me that leaves sircakez/ydrasse, and you saying sircakez town to you, so to me that just leaves your plan as ‘hope ydrasse is scum’, but ydrasse is the one player anyone has said they might send through anyway

which leaves your plan from your point of view + knowledge of my alignment as three towns die ydrasse lives

which seems ??? to me

In post 61, ulyana wrote:

In post 53, Titus wrote:

In post 51, ulyana wrote:

In post 42, Titus wrote:If it's 2 of the 3 of you, scum have to sacrifice their own.

but from my point of view i know that your plan would have to be hoping for exactly the other two if you’re town, and you say you are townreading one of those players, so

#confused rephrase

it’s like, you say ‘this plan good’ because scum in me/ydrasse/sircakez, but i am town, so to me that leaves sircakez/ydrasse, and you saying sircakez town to you, so to me that just leaves your plan as ‘hope ydrasse is scum’, but ydrasse is the one player anyone has said they might send through anyway

Wrong.

From your perspective, it should be me/ydrasse/Cakez contains 2 scum. That makes my plan good unless you would think scum are in the townblock.

If we save, we're likely sending the townier scum anyway.

In post 63, Titus wrote:unless you would think scum are in the townblock.

i literally made like 50 posts about how this seems possible to me towards end of last phase including which slots seemed most likely i don’t understand why you think i think this is an impossibility

In post 63, Titus wrote:From your perspective, it should be me/ydrasse/Cakez contains 2 scum. That makes my plan good unless you would think scum are in the townblock.

also, how does plan work if sircakez just saves ydrasse after you pass,

In post 65, ulyana wrote:

In post 63, Titus wrote:From your perspective, it should be me/ydrasse/Cakez contains 2 scum. That makes my plan good unless you would think scum are in the townblock.

also, how does plan work if sircakez just saves ydrasse after you pass,

like let’s say you’re right about two scum it’s sircakez/ydrasse - how is scum gets saved the best outcome

also very confused why ‘titus saves sircakez’ wouldn’t be town titus’s plan based on her stated reads

In post 67, ulyana wrote:also very confused why ‘titus saves sircakez’ wouldn’t be town titus’s plan based on her stated reads

like this would also prevent sircakez (who titus is townreading) from sacrificing self to save ydrasse (who titus is scumreading)?

In post 67, ulyana wrote:also very confused why ‘titus saves sircakez’ wouldn’t be town titus’s plan based on her stated reads

whereas for scum!titus pass makes sense if she only scum in pt, as would only be saving town if sacrificed, and could still potentially be saved

if titus +1 in pt it is harder to work out

(nuances of this event good morning tweet, sorry for doubting that we’d have any agency in hell)

ydrasse, should i be saved?

I think the only person in here who should be saved is Ydrasse

In post 65, ulyana wrote:

In post 63, Titus wrote:From your perspective, it should be me/ydrasse/Cakez contains 2 scum. That makes my plan good unless you would think scum are in the townblock.

also, how does plan work if sircakez just saves ydrasse after you pass,

I need to persuade others I am right. Anyone saving means scum get saved (unless they save me, which is unlikely).

In post 73, Titus wrote:I need to persuade others I am right. Anyone saving means scum get saved (unless they save me, which is unlikely).

? i mean, i am persuadable but this does not seem right to me, but, uh, what exactly would be the plan for persuading the scums i don’t understand

also, the thing is, not saving means scum gets saved, (well, assuming there is at least one scum here), letting scums be only ones who take action also means scum gets saved, the goal should be, i think, to save a town

like from my perspective, me and a scum going through is much better outcome then just a scum going through, so i would expect same to be true from your perspective and also true for any non-me town as well if able to identify