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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:13 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 49, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Spoiler: Thoughts
I think sparing Gamma is the incorrect move there
regardless
of his alignment - just having his alignment resolved and known is a tremendous help for the town in dissecting what actually went on during D1 and figuring out the interactions he made with the rest of the game.

It's essentially using a no-elim in standard Mountainous which doesn't make a lot of sense here since you don't even know how many eliminations will be controlled by the town at all!
Spoiler:
Precisely why I added the extra benefit on town spare! Town-controlled kills are generally really good

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:14 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
true i forgot about that :3

you think of everything tweetie

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:24 pm
by Morning Tweet
I really wanted a way for the D1 elim to redeem themself in a way, get a chance in the spotlight to turn themself around. But then later in design i was like, if i were a player, i would definitely just say fuck it and kill both the executioner and the player they killed since info is king

I was hoping the benefit would make it more of a question whether to do it or not, and it seems to have worked (?) I also really like how Gamma went from most suspected to a pretty decently townread player. It's a fun dynamic.

I am not super pleased with the sabotage mechanic for that game. One idea i had after the fact was right before the nobles get executed, they get a last speech/words to post publicly to the thread. This would be after the spare/execute since they could just dictate the spare/execute decision which isn't what i wanted

unfortunately i couldnt implement that system as it was too late when i thought of it. I think that would have helped mitigate how annoying the early kill was, if only somewhat. It definitely would have been fun

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:58 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i liked it

the sudden death is very shocking and only adds to the intrigue :)

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:54 am
by Morning Tweet
Welcome, Galron!! I was really happy that you made it into the playerlist, i'm sorry how things ended up in-game :I
In post 53, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i liked it

the sudden death is very shocking and only adds to the intrigue :)
it seems like your death was an absolute win for you on all fronts, then! i am glad to supply a healthy n1 fearkill ego boost opportunity

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:04 am
by Galron
Thanks, Tweet. This is a really fun game, and I feel like a heel for subbing out but I caught myself about to go aggro and knew I had to go.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:12 am
by Morning Tweet
No worries!

Mm, I really liked what I did for your gameovers. May as well post em here. Prism's too!

Spoiler:
Game Over!


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PRISM

Fragmented
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GALRON

No Longer Showing
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GALRON

Struck Midnight
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:15 am
by Galron
lol Those are pretty awesome.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:44 am
by Cephrir
these are literally the best

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Hell yea

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Commerative aviies u r like the best mod Eva tweetie

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:03 pm
by Morning Tweet
i'm so happy you like them! (>ω<) I love overdoing the little details

happy scumday Ceph!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:43 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
its too bad Ulyana is making the most sense but absolutely noone is listening to her

:sadfeelings:

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:44 am
by Galron
I wish I wouldn't have rage quit.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:45 am
by Galron
You're exactly right Pooky.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:48 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
It's better to quit than be upset!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:20 am
by Prism
I am very upset about the way I exited the game, both that I was forced out of a game I was genuinely excited in and invested in and that Gamma has been allowed to play both after making it clear he did not care about the gender concerns and was concerned only with his own selfimage. He got away with talking about an ongoing game with another slot and
talking about this rule breakage in said game
and is still allowed to play.

I am even more tilted at Cakez, whose suggestion that I did simply did not want to play mafia was incredibly helpful. It reminds me of how he did not care at all about a man telling a woman she talked too much then openly bragged about forcing her out of the game. Cakez does not care about players or their comfort/safety. He cares about being inconvenienced and having to hear about it. I said in the DEFCON postgame that my criticisms were of him as a moderator, not as a player or person. Now he flatly disgusts me as all three.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:26 am
by Prism
I don't want to address telling Gamma I was through talking about it privately only to have him make open overtures for my forgiveness publicly, as though those would be more welcome or wanted, simply because that invites a response and dialogue with him that is again completely unwanted.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:40 am
by Morning Tweet
I am sorry that I failed you as a moderator, Prism. By the time I woke up that day, the initial events had transpired and you had already repped out.

I made a judgement call that replacing Gamma out as well wasn't going to improve the game. Had I known that Gamma would proceed to bring it up in thread, I would have done so -- I did not think he would. I gave him a lot of benefit of the doubt.

My timezone as well as hesistance towards taking greater action ended up hurting you and replacing you out when you obviously didn't do anything wrong and Gamma did act incredibly rude and insensitively.

Had I been online I would have warned Gamma immediately for his early posts in the exchange and had he continued any further I would have replaced him out. Unfortunately I only dealt with the aftermath and I took what I perceived at the time to be the less destructive option. I'm really sorry that I didn't take action sooner or more effectively, and I understand if you no longer feel safe playing my games.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:44 am
by Prism
I completely got your position here, both the timezones and that you didn't really have time to sort out all that had happened. I do think the blatantly and openly breaking the "don't discuss ongoing games" rule was uhhhhhh way out of bounds but I don't really know what I would do with someone clearly having a public meltdown inthread either.

I really just wanted to vent, because yeah, it fucking sucks to watch this game happen without me, especially when Cakez frames it as me clearly an issue of me not wanting to play the game. I don't post outside of mafia games. I don't touch the moderator side of the site at all. I don't add people on Discord.
Playing mafia is literally the only thing I care about on this website
.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:45 am
by Prism
(And it makes it worse since he is a repeat offender, the last time was more egregious as it took two separate bans to get Cakez to force replace slots in DEFCON)

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:56 am
by Morning Tweet
I am really fucking sorry and it upset me for multiple days even when I thought I was making the correct decision.

I don't really have anything else to say, I made a mistake, I should have made it clear that behaviour was completely intolerable with a replacement, but I didn't and it led to more problems and my game is less safe as a result.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:05 am
by Prism
I don't think you made the mistake out of callous indifference or lack of thought, and if it helps I want you to know both that I forgive you and I agree that replacing now would also be absurd.

It has been frustrating watching the rest of the game continue but that is spilled milk and you were not a bad faith actor. My frustration is directed at those that I think were.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:01 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
shiki is so fucking brilliant

pls listen to her unwnd

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:01 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
**psychic brainwave signals**