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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:56 am
by Fidget
Why didn't NAHA and CSF just vote for... anyone other than each other? There was literally no way CSF could have gotten out of being eliminated there after NAHA submitted.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:03 am
by Fidget
Well, unless maybe CSF 1v1'd me or played the PT out a little more. I think you could have gotten away with pressuring anyone other than Gamma/Loki and gotten one of the two of you out. I think the bussing was the problem as opposed to what CSF did after the first lim.

CSF was a consensus lock (thats why we fell asleep), Gamma/Aisa/Loki-Freedom demonstrated they were town lengthily during first phase, NAHA and CSF didn't really play the PT other than mainly vote each other. Seemed like bad timing for them, plus like, the scenario was pretty unfortunate -- forcing the 'towniest' players to eliminate who might be scum within them, rather than just eliminating the scummy ppl as usual.

I didn't think CSF was scum though so that's rough.

I don't get why I was killed. Hello, dead resistance fighters + terminators

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:03 am
by Firebringer
Spicy my gut on cat was right

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:05 am
by DkKoba
In post 50, Fidget wrote:Why didn't NAHA and CSF just vote for... anyone other than each other? There was literally no way CSF could have gotten out of being eliminated there after NAHA submitted.
Wtf do u mean

I feel like you didn't follow gamestate if youre saying this

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:06 am
by DkKoba
Like yall incorrectly concluded that csf was town and if she had a presence she doesn't die there and its a lock

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:09 am
by Fidget
I suppose we had vastly different impressions of the gamestate. From my impression the game idled because we all thought there was 1 terminator in the group and we agreed it wasn't Gamma/Loki-Freedom/Aisa?/Myself? after the shitfighting

So basically Aisa, myself, you, and CSF were the viable lims.

After you died i removed Aisa though and CSF was the only technically possible scum left. I appreciate their scumrange and they had no interactions with you that were clearing, unlike Gamma/Aisa who i thought spewed.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:10 am
by Fidget
I'm not sure why you think the gamestate froze other than because we all begrudgingly consensused CSF who then peaced out.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:21 am
by DkKoba
i did the best i could in that gamestate and i stand by it

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:20 pm
by Loki Dokie
In post 57, DkKoba wrote:i did the best i could in that gamestate and i stand by it
I don’t think anyone is saying otherwise? but had I been in that pt, I too would have voted CSF because she was pretty much saying nothing other than that mafia should decide the elim.

I think at the end of d1, CSF was in the weakest position and everyone else looked townier.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:01 pm
by Fidget
In post 57, DkKoba wrote:i did the best i could in that gamestate and i stand by it
I'm not really saying you didn't do the best you could. I don't think there was a whole alot more u coulda done. I just thought the terminators could have gotten away with sticking together so it surprised me to see CSF as scum there

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:08 pm
by Fidget
I suppose I gave Gamma the impression I was tinfoiling him when I engaged with Loki? I don't always ask questions because I'm trying to be convinced of either side. I'm not really sure what gave Gamma the impression I was ever considering him..

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:09 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Fidgy did you actually read that War & Peace post rofl

*flops ears*

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:12 pm
by DkKoba
In post 1117, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1112, Aisa wrote:I can confirm every factual claim that Gamma has made.

RR, if you want the exact end of day 1 votecount, it was:
NAHA: Loki, Gamma, CSF, Fidget, Aisa
CSF: NAHA

I'm somewhat surprised no one has brought up this angle yet. Or maybe this is what Gamma means, idk, but I think it's a slightly different angle:
If there were 3 scum in my PT, they literally could have controlled the day 1 elimination and gone on to eliminate or kill all 3 townies in the PT (plus one in the other PT), thus automatically getting the game to 4:3 eLo.

The fact this didn't happen is somewhat short of a perfect clear, but IMO fairly close.

Also, FWIW, I think Gamma kinda towntold in the PT anyway.

This is obviously easy for me to say, but I am pretty keen for the 3-scum-in-one-PT theory to die down pretty soon.
Yeah, and that's the situation I expected to be in this morning.
I don't think they mutual bus like that in a triple scum world though, so I'm willing to say final scum was in our group now.

Now then. Andante's ragequit probably spews that slot Town, as well as townreading her beforehand. Ejjinami townslipped, and was also an existing townread. So that leaves Vivax/Enchant, and I'm not really fond of Vivax's entrance today, so let's start there, yeah?

VOTE: Vivax
what the fuck is this OGI bullshit

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:05 pm
by Freedom
Wait.
Andante did a "ragequit"?
Isn't that commenting on replacements?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:07 pm
by DkKoba
No she didn't

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:15 pm
by Freedom
So RR is lying?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:15 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I think you are allowed to comment on a replacement after it happens

but she did not ragequit

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:16 pm
by Freedom
In post 66, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think you are allowed to comment on a replacement after it happens

but she did not ragequit
So RR is misrepresenting?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:16 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I can't comment on RR's state of mind when they make a comment because I am not a psychic.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:38 pm
by Loki Dokie
In post 68, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I can't comment on RR's state of mind when they make a comment because I am not a psychic.
Pooky, Andante and myself formed a covenant and the three of us all made a vow of secrecy which we signed with our own blood and all of us also pinky swore to nominate Pooky for a scummie for this game, because he bribed us.

Troof

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:44 pm
by DkKoba
In post 66, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think you are allowed to comment on a replacement after it happens

but she did not ragequit
it shouldnt be allowed tbqh

i myself specifically have a clause in my ruleset not to allow that kind of OGI :/

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:45 pm
by Andante
In post 67, Freedom wrote:
In post 66, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think you are allowed to comment on a replacement after it happens

but she did not ragequit
So RR is misrepresenting?
ehhh I can see where RR is thinking that, our PT was… interesting..
I didn’t rage quit though

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:46 pm
by Andante
from my understanding you can say whatever you want in game about a replacement after it happens, just not before it happens

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:39 pm
by Freedom
In post 72, Andante wrote:from my understanding you can say whatever you want in game about a replacement after it happens, just not before it happens
That's true.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:14 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 52, Firebringer wrote:Spicy my gut on cat was right
unfortunately, I'm a fairly straightforward read for good tonereaders. I'm pretty sure you correctly scumread me in Pokemon too