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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:33 am
by Taly
This game is going way too fast for me x_x Sorry Bell

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:02 am
by Taly
Ok yeah Dunn townread got deleted over that mason baiting.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:06 am
by Taly
:( i am hard struggling

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:47 am
by Taly
Luke's pivot feels opportunistic but that may be misread given gamestate

I'd like to hear what inspired your vote, Bell

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:32 am
by Bell
I encouraged you to post and you didn’t really do much.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:05 am
by Taly
I'm struggling to find time to

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:41 pm
by Bell
Makes sense as either alignment.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:39 am
by Taly
im sorry
bell

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:39 am
by Taly
regardless of how this goes, no hard feelings
<3

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:40 am
by Taly
also happy scumday lmao

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:40 am
by Taly
im exhausted i just wnat to meeeeeeeeme

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:50 pm
by Taly
holy shit

oth/tbone/luke/pooky/rad
all flipped on
ceph

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:54 pm
by Taly
Bell
, who do you think I'm getting snowed by? tbh i feel like several of my defenders could be pocketing me in some manner.

i ask mainly because
tbone
suggested
drap/pooky/nancy
and i want a perception check

i also want to hear you talk about
OTH's
push on you being scum in lieu of defending me.

its also odd that
math
spent time trying to find
rce's
justification for the
ceph
vote but quickly pivoted back onto me the moment
luke
gave reasoning to vote me.

im really not feeling the
tbone
masterminding
ceph's
choices like
pooky
is implying? ill have to read back onto that

i still strongly believe
nancy/titus
are town, do you disagree?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:56 pm
by Taly
im still very confident with
ceph
scum, i dont see the justification for town that people have outlined so far. even if this gladiate was not targeted to protect a scumbuddy in danger, it felt weird that
ceph
kept this supicion on my slot for majority of the dayphase without ever pushing it

and in fact pushed
johnny
instead but pivoted back onto me.

it feels disingenuous, especially in light of
ceph
taking fault of my post 1580 which was a reply to
johnny
.

i still feel like
johnny's
got +1 townpings but they have lacked presence in this thread so far.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:59 pm
by Taly
im feeling slightly calmed with
Luke
? like i dont think hes a buddy to
ceph
in any reality because of how much he's willing to ride the fence and find a lim.

in a vacuum, that perspective can be scum-indicative but i think scum likely has a preferred gladiate elimination, especially in the reality of
ceph
!scum

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:02 pm
by Taly
i have reservations about your alignment but since you've given interest in getting my opinions, i want to work together.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:44 pm
by Bell
In post 61, Taly wrote:holy shit

oth/tbone/luke/pooky/rad
all flipped on
ceph
OTH didn't really flip on them though. They didn't really have a position to begin with, Neither did Rad. They were already No votes.
In post 62, Taly wrote:
Bell
, who do you think I'm getting snowed by? tbh i feel like several of my defenders could be pocketing me in some manner.

i ask mainly because
tbone
suggested
drap/pooky/nancy
and i want a perception check

i also want to hear you talk about
OTH's
push on you being scum in lieu of defending me.

its also odd that
math
spent time trying to find
rce's
justification for the
ceph
vote but quickly pivoted back onto me the moment
luke
gave reasoning to vote me.

im really not feeling the
tbone
masterminding
ceph's
choices like
pooky
is implying? ill have to read back onto that

i still strongly believe
nancy/titus
are town, do you disagree?
2. The only thing I felt is mildly insulted when GE pushed at me, so I decided largely to ignore it. It's clear I don't really like being suspected and have little interest in jumping a particular player's hoops. I didn't dig because in general when I dig into GE it takes time that I don't have the patience for right now.
3. From a post to post angle I can't see scum T-bone, their posts are relatively relatable and they aren't always aiming for understanding/writing for an audience. However from a larger perspective I can see it in their mild reach outs and shifts in angles in their approaches to me. They pushed at first before becoming relatively benign. Pooky isn't wrong that they never did hard push anyone and while there's some evidence of solving there isn't much like unguarded posts from them either. I'm not sure if they're afraid of criticism or just waiting for something to come to them or they're afraid of taking a stance as scum and just want to appear somewhat harmless and funny. I find the arguments for MB and Frog more compelling. I can't help but think Pooky is wrong on one of them, but I don't know.

4.I don't. I think Nancy is town because their personality traits have been consistent with how they seem to play. They're vulnerable to buddying. Flattery and they take sides they shouldn't be taking. But that's a conversation for never. I've been frustrated and then calmed myself down a lot with them this game and just let them spam insistently about their position without antagonizing them for arguing.
In post 63, Taly wrote:im still very confident with
ceph
scum, i dont see the justification for town that people have outlined so far. even if this gladiate was not targeted to protect a scumbuddy in danger, it felt weird that
ceph
kept this supicion on my slot for majority of the dayphase without ever pushing it

and in fact pushed
johnny
instead but pivoted back onto me.

it feels disingenuous, especially in light of
ceph
taking fault of my post 1580 which was a reply to
johnny
.

i still feel like
johnny's
got +1 townpings but they have lacked presence in this thread so far.
1. Ceph tends to be pretty mild D1 if they can get away with it as either alignment really. I think their shadowing and trajectories make a general sort of sense.
2. Johnny doesn't make sense to me some of his posts seem purposely sarcastic because it doesn't make sense for them to make those posts unless they were making fun of someone. They've also been hard active lurking without contributing they have a significant number of page tops, they've followed the whole game and done almost nothing with it.
In post 64, Taly wrote:im feeling slightly calmed with
Luke
? like i dont think hes a buddy to
ceph
in any reality because of how much he's willing to ride the fence and find a lim.

in a vacuum, that perspective can be scum-indicative but i think scum likely has a preferred gladiate elimination, especially in the reality of
ceph
!scum
In post 65, Taly wrote:i have reservations about your alignment but since you've given interest in getting my opinions, i want to work together.
I am interested in other people's views.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:46 pm
by Bell
I don't think Lukewarm is scum because his ego is showing. Their frustration does not seem performative and scum doesn't give a shit in this situation deep down anyway.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:05 pm
by Bell
I know I just said a whole thing about how it's game zone time and the whole world's a stage.
But I have difficulty imagining Pooky scum including Nancy in an apology about the spam.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:36 pm
by Bell
Yay, I read Cephrir correctly.
It's a shame I lacked the will power to save them.

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:51 pm
by Taly
hey
bell
sorry for not getting to this ASAP, my mental health dipped today and im on VLA for several IRL reasons.

i read
ceph's
townflip :( ill have to rethink my whole solve, i feel bad and disappointed that my presence this game has been a far cry from productive for town.

can you compile any questions you got so when i get to this tomorrow, i can share input on any and everything?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:52 pm
by Taly
Image

this plist needs some more love

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:11 pm
by Taly
In post 66, Bell wrote:
In post 61, Taly wrote:holy shit

oth/tbone/luke/pooky/rad
all flipped on
ceph
OTH didn't really flip on them though. They didn't really have a position to begin with, Neither did Rad. They were already No votes.
i didnt anticipate several people shifting votes, i was very confident that i was dying.

do you think any of the
ceph
votes could be to incriminate my slot further?

i should review the pages leading up to
ceph's
gladiate again
In post 66, Bell wrote:
In post 62, Taly wrote:
Bell
, who do you think I'm getting snowed by? tbh i feel like several of my defenders could be pocketing me in some manner.

i ask mainly because
tbone
suggested
drap/pooky/nancy
and i want a perception check

i also want to hear you talk about
OTH's
push on you being scum in lieu of defending me.

its also odd that
math
spent time trying to find
rce's
justification for the
ceph
vote but quickly pivoted back onto me the moment
luke
gave reasoning to vote me.

im really not feeling the
tbone
masterminding
ceph's
choices like
pooky
is implying? ill have to read back onto that

i still strongly believe
nancy/titus
are town, do you disagree?
2. The only thing I felt is mildly insulted when GE pushed at me, so I decided largely to ignore it. It's clear I don't really like being suspected and have little interest in jumping a particular player's hoops. I didn't dig because in general when I dig into GE it takes time that I don't have the patience for right now.
It felt odd to opportunistic to me because
Gamma's
push came at a time where I was likely to be eliminated regardless of his stance on my slot.

And at a time where we can shade your slot with little resistance because the thread was forced not to acknowledge it in depth.

Gamma
has seen me as several alignments before, so I don't think it's unlikely that their hydra is a scum-slot that sided with me to gain cred on my likely elimination.

I also believe
Math
and
RCE
fall into this category to some extent but for different reasons. But I doubt all 3 in this pool
{Math/OTH/RCE}
are scum. I'll digress about
Math/RCE
tomorrow, they had a very extensive back-and-forth that effectively lead nowhere, and when both of them had stated they were
"voting
Taly
"
or had actually done so... they both switched off little provocation.

I don't think S/S is impossible within
Math/RCE
.
In post 66, Bell wrote:3. From a post to post angle I can't see scum T-bone, their posts are relatively relatable and they aren't always aiming for understanding/writing for an audience. However from a larger perspective I can see it in their mild reach outs and shifts in angles in their approaches to me. They pushed at first before becoming relatively benign. Pooky isn't wrong that they never did hard push anyone and while there's some evidence of solving there isn't much like unguarded posts from them either. I'm not sure if they're afraid of criticism or just waiting for something to come to them or they're afraid of taking a stance as scum and just want to appear somewhat harmless and funny. I find the arguments for MB and Frog more compelling. I can't help but think Pooky is wrong on one of them, but I don't know.
I also didn't understand
Pooky's
vitriol towards
Tbone
. I honestly think
Tbone's
expression of apathy to the hideous gamestate was reasonable and I couldn't attach any specific agenda to it.
In post 66, Bell wrote:4.I don't. I think Nancy is town because their personality traits have been consistent with how they seem to play. They're vulnerable to buddying. Flattery and they take sides they shouldn't be taking. But that's a conversation for never. I've been frustrated and then calmed myself down a lot with them this game and just let them spam insistently about their position without antagonizing them for arguing.
Out of everyone that sided to me
Dancing Puppets
is the slot I'm least concerned about. But what are stances that you don't think
Nancy
should've taken thus far?
In post 66, Bell wrote:
In post 63, Taly wrote:im still very confident with
ceph
scum, i dont see the justification for town that people have outlined so far. even if this gladiate was not targeted to protect a scumbuddy in danger, it felt weird that
ceph
kept this supicion on my slot for majority of the dayphase without ever pushing it

and in fact pushed
johnny
instead but pivoted back onto me.

it feels disingenuous, especially in light of
ceph
taking fault of my post 1580 which was a reply to
johnny
.

i still feel like
johnny's
got +1 townpings but they have lacked presence in this thread so far.
1. Ceph tends to be pretty mild D1 if they can get away with it as either alignment really. I think their shadowing and trajectories make a general sort of sense.
2. Johnny doesn't make sense to me some of his posts seem purposely sarcastic because it doesn't make sense for them to make those posts unless they were making fun of someone. They've also been hard active lurking without contributing they have a significant number of page tops, they've followed the whole game and done almost nothing with it.
I noticed the active lurking with
Johnny
and it's a reason why I'm much less confident upon
Ceph's
townflip. But I doubt all the scum jumped to my rescue
(re: OTH/Math/RCE pool)
, so I'm going to ISO group these slots if I have time soon.

At the very least, they have my eye. There's various slots I suspect in this playerlist and for varying degrees at the moment. Considering the trajectory from being a null/secondary scumread to being a consistent top wagon through half of D1, it's not unlikely that I have been pocketed.
In post 66, Bell wrote:
In post 64, Taly wrote:im feeling slightly calmed with
Luke
? like i dont think hes a buddy to
ceph
in any reality because of how much he's willing to ride the fence and find a lim.

in a vacuum, that perspective can be scum-indicative but i think scum likely has a preferred gladiate elimination, especially in the reality of
ceph
!scum
In post 65, Taly wrote:i have reservations about your alignment but since you've given interest in getting my opinions, i want to work together.
I am interested in other people's views.
mind saying who?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:14 pm
by Taly
fuck health my mind is racing about this game again hahahahueuehawaaa
*cries*

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm
by Bell
In post 70, Taly wrote:hey
bell
sorry for not getting to this ASAP, my mental health dipped today and im on VLA for several IRL reasons.

i read
ceph's
townflip :( ill have to rethink my whole solve, i feel bad and disappointed that my presence this game has been a far cry from productive for town.

can you compile any questions you got so when i get to this tomorrow, i can share input on any and everything?
Would you apologize like this if you were scum?