When did I say there was something wrong with a vanilla claim?Shinnen_no_Me wrote:To you, obviously.
I said that if I'm lying I worked out you were vanilla despite the fact that all claims/reveals were for PRs when I made that claim.
I want you to explain, in detail, why a double vote would be a scum power. Also, I want you to refute each point I have made on the matter. Until then, your assertions are worthless.Also, Im keeping my vote where it is. I have major doubts about Kari's claim. While he has proved to be a double voter, It seems to me to be an ability more attuned to a puppeteer than a carnival owner.
That means absolutely nothing. In Facedown and Thirsty Mafia, we could submit any sort of kill method we wanted, and in most theme games each scum role has a different kill flavor.The reason I went after him in the beginning of the day was that I chose him as my target for role blocknig last night, which is also why I made a big deal of Shanba "leaving" rather than benig killed.
Because yeah, a roleblocker is a much more likely target than a double voter when we have a chance of going into lylo.does not expect to live to see day 3 now that he has claimed (im a likely target for a NK unless I RB the right person)
I am 99% certain that the remaining two scum are contained within this list:Who else do you think is scum, so I can RB them tonight to try to prevent a NK?
Fist off, I'm not desperate. If you think I shouldn't hammer, then that's fine with me. I was under the impression that you wanted as much proof of lack of restriction as possible.I'm also a bit wary of Kairyuu desperately wanting to be the one to hammer. He already fulfilled my extra request for a proof. It almost feels like Kairyuu has some sort of win condition that depends on a hammer.
Sure, he should block the person who has proved himself to be a power role that functions during the Day, and therefore can't be roleblocked (and if II think you should block Kairyuu if Emp flips town.
Note: There was three, Turkey Leg, Waffle, and Popcorn. They had no future roles (like Nocmen thought they might have ). They were Shinnen_no_Me, Nocmen, and VP BaltarVanilla Role PM wrote:You are a [Food] Vendor. Your business thrives on the business of the carnival. With the Puppeteers' plans, he would do away with all of “your types”. You cannot stand for this! You must vote them out!
You are a Vanilla Townie. Your only power is your vote. You win when the Puppeteers are dead.
Please /confirm by PM.
Note: Can be roleblocked. The wars happened quite close to each other, I know, but he's a mercenary, he doesn't have to fight the entire war. He was WLC.One-Shot-Vig wrote:You are the Grizzled War Veteran. You fought in America during the War of 1812, the Napoleonic Wars in Europe, and several other insurrections as a mercenary. As your body has become decrepit through age and all of the constant fighting, you decided to run the gun show at the carnival. Since you spent your previous monies from fighting on booze and women, you want the Puppeteers out so that you can continue to get money. Good thing you’ve killed many men before…
You are a One-Shot Vig. During any night, you can send me the name of someone and they will die. You only can do this once in the game. You win when the Puppeteers are dead.
Please /confirm by PM.
Note: I originally called it "weak" since it can only see if someone is home, but I realized that weak implies death if he targetted a scum, which was not the case. It was just a Tracker in reality, so I revealed it that way.Tracker Role PM wrote:You are the Janitor. You are a simple man, lovable to the highest degree. You know a lot about the night habits of the carnival members, as you are out cleaning the fairgrounds. You just want things to return to normal so you can keep your job…
You are a "Weak" Tracker. Every night, you can send me the name of someone and I will tell you if they were home (i.e. they had a night action). You win when the Puppeteers are dead.
Note: Sorry about screwing up earlier today. Could have cost him the game, since he changed his vote to Nocmen. He was Kairyuu.Double Voter Role PM wrote:You are the Carnival Owner. You are dissatisfied with the brainwashed patrons coming out of the Puppeteer’s show, and the strife it has caused the other carnival members. As you are the owner of the carnival, you naturally get a larger voice than everyone else. Hopefully your influence can get things done about the Puppeteers quickly!
You are a Secret Double-Voter. Every day, you can send me the name of someone and I will add a second vote to them, with no limit the amount of times you can change it. You win when the Puppeteers are dead.
Note: Cannot block the Double Voter since his action is a day one, not a night one. Can block the Puppeteer. He was Grimmy.Prostitute Role PM wrote:
You are the Prostitute. You are such a smokin’ woman that many of the carnival members want to…enjoy your company at night. The Puppeteers are potentially going to kill your customers, so you want to do everything in your power to ensure that doesn’t happen…
You are a Roleblocker. Every night, you can send me the name of someone and they will have their action blocked (if they have one they used). You win when the Puppeteers are dead.
Note: This is the bastard role of this game. I tried to warn you guys in the opening flavor. Anyway, he had a high chance of winning, and I intended it to be that way. If he won via his second option (getting killed by the Puppeteer then the Puppeteer getting lynched), he would have been the only winner, unless the lynched Puppeteer was the last one.Even-Day Jester Role PM wrote:You are the Joker. You’ve enjoyed the massive popularity of your show at the Carnival for years. While it has been a fun ride, recent events have made you ponder your future. With the “aggressive expansion” of the Puppeteer’s show, you have decided to make your exit. But how should you do so? Quietly leaving would just cause the Puppeteer to go headstrong, killing the Puppeteer would be silly,….all you know is that you want to go out with a bang…
You are a Even-Day Jester. You win when you are lynched on an even day. However, you gain a second chance if the Puppeteer targets you at night, and is lynched (the second chance doesn’t need to happen on an even day).
Note: Can be blocked.Puppeteer Role PM wrote:You are the Puppeteer. You are handsome, fun-loving, but extremely competitive. Your carnival show is growing in popularity, second only to the Joker. But your rise has meteoric ever since you and your Apprentice learned hypnosis with your puppets! Nevertheless, the other carnival performers are starting to get in the way of your massive popularity, so you’ve decided it is time to go solo. You figure that you could hypnotize people, have them do your chores, then kill them. So easy!
You are allied with the Puppeteer’s Apprentice [PlayerName], and you can talk at night in this QT: [link]. Every night, you choose someone to “puppeteer”. If that person has any night/day powers, you gain them for that night/day. You then kill your “puppet” that night. You win when the Puppeteers compose 50% of the town or nothing can prevent the same.
]Apprentice Role PM wrote:You are the Puppeteer’s Apprentice. You’ve been at the Carnival your entire life, ever since the Puppeteer found you outside his tent. While slightly brainwashed, you are a willing part of the Puppeteer’s plan to eliminate the other carnival members to gain the massive riches that you only get a portion of now.
You are allied with the Puppeteer [PlayerName], and you can talk at night in this QT: [link]. If the Puppeteer dies, every night you choose someone to “puppeteer”. If that person has any night/day powers, you gain them for that night/day. You then kill your “puppet” that night. You win when the Puppeteers compose 50% of the town or nothing can prevent the same.
Note: If the Puppeteer ever tried to target the Sibling, the Apprentice would find out he is his brother and kill the Puppeteer in grief. If the Apprenctice targeted the Sibling, it doesn't matter.Sibling Role PM wrote:
You are the Balloon-Animal-Maker. You’ve found out that you have a long-lost brother that was left at the Carnival at birth, and you finally found him. You took up the job as the Balloon-Animal-Maker just so you can get him out of the carnival back to his rightful family. Now if you can just get him away from that wretched Puppeteer...
You are a Sibling with the Puppeteer’s Apprentice, but you do not know who it is. You only have your vote. You win when the Puppeteers are dead.