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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:45 pm

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muzzz wrote:
cateraction wrote:Cat - Sexy man.
Your avatar suggests otherwise :wink:

Your post seems to imply that you consider BC's claim confirmed. Is that correct?
Nietzsche was very sexy. Check out the 'stache on that guy! lol

I do think that BC is confirmed. His spartacus role that pads uncovered, his not knowing about the extra role, and his correct ID of skitzer confirm him, and thus roffman.

BC: The way it usually works is that the RB can either block or submit the kill, but not both on the same night. I'm curious what happened night 1 that led to a no kill. I guess there's another power role that we don't know of, and I strongly urge them to come forward so we can plan this out optimally.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:51 pm

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cateraction wrote:
muzzz wrote:
cateraction wrote:Cat - Sexy man.
Your avatar suggests otherwise :wink:

Your post seems to imply that you consider BC's claim confirmed. Is that correct?
Nietzsche was very sexy. Check out the 'stache on that guy! lol

I do think that BC is confirmed. His spartacus role that pads uncovered, his not knowing about the extra role, and his correct ID of skitzer confirm him, and thus roffman.

BC: The way it usually works is that the RB can either block or submit the kill, but not both on the same night. I'm curious what happened night 1 that led to a no kill. I guess there's another power role that we don't know of, and I strongly urge them to come forward so we can plan this out optimally.
Agreed. What do you think about a mass claim?
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:52 pm

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If I ask someone a question, I'd appreciate it if you let that person answer before volunteering your own opinion.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:57 pm

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Well, massclaim isn't going to accomplish anything that just asking the power role to come out. I don't expect that there is more than one unrevealed PR right now. It should be self-evident that they should come out in order to win this game. Lets do this.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:03 pm

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muzzz wrote:If I ask someone a question, I'd appreciate it if you let that person answer before volunteering your own opinion.
Do you think my claim is confirmed?
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:13 pm

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I think you're probably genuine.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:37 pm

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BC: can you check with the mod if you were indeed meant to get no result? :D

and how do you know roffman activated you

I would still roffman to explain 463 though, that post was incredibly scummy.

The whole "ortolan drove Infinis lynch" makes no sense as I was initially first on the Pads wagon when the competing muzz wagon was about to go to a claim; then I changed to Infinis, who was being scummy (contrary to what roffman suggests); then was back on the Pads wagon in fourth place. Scum wouldn't do that to their buddies in a million years, I would have just voted muzz to begin with (plus I didn't even give a reason when I revoted Pads which largely denies me the psychological benefit of a bus).

If there is a mafia roleblocker that's consistent with the first night where I think Zazie implied she knew there was no kill submitted (is that right?)

Otherwise we can lynch lazarus
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:14 pm

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I also want to know how BC knows roff activated him.

Why are we lynching laz again?
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:24 pm

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cateraction wrote:If I'm reading this correctly, we have a mafia roleblocker left who can't kill and roleblock on the same night (obviously). So we shouldn't have any more night kills, and the scum is hoping for a mislynch during the day. If he kills at night he's risking BC nabbing him with an investigation.
Someone seems very assured of the scenario..
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@orto - Zazie was in this game? :?

Way I'm thinking is that the night kill was not made on purpose. If cat is the mafia roleblocker, then he's asking for any additional power roles to claim. If a protective role claimed right now (or if we all claimed), then he could block the protective PR and kill the cop/BC, and then be able to kill the doc next. From there, no more confirmed townies are in the game, and everyone points the finger at each other.

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cateraction wrote:It should be self-evident that they should come out in order to win this game.
How would the game be won, if any additional PR reveals themselves?

@Ash - If it means anything, I wanted to lynch Laz on D2 :D.
They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.

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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:16 pm

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I think cateraction is the last scum
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:52 pm

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Why?
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:09 pm

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Hmm. On second thoughts, I shan't say anything now, but will add that I am in support of a doctor claim at the present moment (and any other power roles)
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:56 am

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Mafia can almost never do two actions in one night, that's just how it is.

As to how we could win.
Scenario with a Doc:

Doc Protects BC
BC investigates
Mafia kills doc.

This is with everyone doing their optimal play. If the doc doesn't protect BC, he dies. If the mafia doesn't kill the doc, they can't kill the cop and they're screwed.

This would give us 3 confirmed townies: BC, Roffman, whoever BC investigated (if innocent) or (if we're lucky) he hits scum. Assume the former for arguments sake (obviously if he gets scum, we lynch scum and win).

3 confirmed townies, 1 scum. Pretty darn easy win no?
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:12 am

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cateraction wrote:Mafia can almost never do two actions in one night, that's just how it is.
@Lazarus, Roffman and Orto: you guys seem to have been around here the longest. Do you agree with Cat's assessment here?
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:14 am

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Is everyone claiming then? Or are we just waiting for a powerrole to claim?
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:16 am

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muzzz wrote:
cateraction wrote:Mafia can almost never do two actions in one night, that's just how it is.
@Lazarus, Roffman and Orto: you guys seem to have been around here the longest. Do you agree with Cat's assessment here?
Can't help you there, muzz. Though it says I've been around since 2004, I was on a 4-year hiatus before I joined again. So my game sucks right now. (As was evident on some very wrong assumptions on this game).
There are so many questions I'd like to ask, but we are left watching the checkered board. Our eyes pass over the symmetry. I wish it were possible to achieve such mimicry, to move our pieces in peace ├óÔé¼ÔÇ£ my bishops to church, your wild horses to stable.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:33 am

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Cat seems to be right. I'd just like to clarify something, I did not activate BC. I initially thought my power did, but Spolium, the person i replaced, did not submit a night action on night 1. Though I am town, my confirmation comes through a different method. I'd personally like to here from anyone who may have powered up BC
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:39 am

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One more thing, the optimal strategy atm is
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to massclaim. As we currently have a confirmed cop, a hidden doc, and a somewhat confirmed townie, we can progressively lynch people. The doc keeps the cop alive, who will either get more confirmed innocents or mafia, or prevent the night kill. Either way, it is just a matter of time till we lynch the mafia. Mass claims, especially on the part of the doc, can produce a whole variety of WIFOM scenerios, and potentially through a large spanner in the works.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:41 am

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If no PR does claim, we'll just have to scumhunt the old fashioned way. Because a kill from scum means we get an investigation from BC right?
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:57 am

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hmm actually roffman may well be right

I'm very confused about this whole confirmation stuff though

I think a typical mafia roleblocker role can usually do both each night, but I might be wrong.

And we haven't heard confirmation from BC yet on whether the mod told him anything when he asked to confirm if he got no result.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:06 am

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Bah, i thought I had a good idea with the claim, but I think now I was wrong.

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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:15 am

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Roffman makes good points. Almost enough to make me glad I didn't get to lynch him :lol:

Keeping the Doc hidden seems like the safest approach for now. If he claims now it could potentially save us some fruitless discussion about him being scum. But I don't think that weighs up to the potential of him actually surviving a few more days.

However, I'm wondering if it might be a good idea for non-kill-stopping roles to claim now. Thoughts, anyone?
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:22 am

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I highly doubt we have anything more than a cop, doc, and mafia left. But by all means if we do they should claim.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:57 am

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I received a late message from the mod, Kise is scum.

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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:58 am

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I guess that makes an abrupt end to that discussion.

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