131 Boca Del Infierno! Brain Meats EXPLODEded!

[mathcam]

What do you mean "What note", olio? The note we've been talking about all day! The one I got last night saying that Tactix's blood would reveal a truth. This fits perfectly with the role of Jasmine as Fred was the one who could originaly see Jasmine's demon side, since she touched Jasmine's blood.

You claim to be full of logic, ZONEACE, but we've still yet to see any. Explain to me how me not claiming is scummy. And yes, I'm the only one left to have not claimed.

To those of you with fears that I would sacrifice a co-scum Tactix:

Yes, of course I would. And that's why I shouldn't be a confirmed innocent when Tactix turns out to be scum. But whether or not I'm scum with Tactix or not, he's still Jasmine. There's no reason not to lynch him today.

Cam

[willows_weep]

2 SubtleTactix ( JediKnight, Mathcam)
2 Mathcam (Olio,ZoneAce)
1 ZoneAce (SubtleTactix)

[olio]

So you don't believe in this note Zoneace produced with his investigations?

About Subletactix to FD:
" Hi cordelia, "you
"...oh, me..yea hi"cordy
"bye" you
"bye"

In that note, you=FD or Zoneace and Cordelia=SubleTactix. Or do you have another explanation?

[SubtleTactix]

SubtleTactix looks like he's coming along with the stuff as he goes along.

I can empathize with you viewing my posting that way, Vraak, but part of it comes from the fact that ZONEACE has been revealing bits of information one at a time. To each I've responded with questions, and that made it look like I was fishing. All I can say is that I'm genuinely convinced that ZONEACE is scum, and was trying to find holes in his posts.

I think Mathcam and Subtletactix are most likely scum, because of the fact that a) I know it is very hard for ZONEACE to lie without giving it away (kinda like a guy playing poker, who really can't bluff) and b) Mathcam is very deceptive in games, thus I don't put my trust on him.

Is there some actual basis for this claim, other than the fact that mathcam gets a lot of respect for being sneaky? I don't see why I should get dragged into mathcam's scumminess. Part of the reason I switched the vote is b/c I feel like we have to get a correct lynch today. ZONEACE's posts spell out to me that ZONEACE is guilty. As for mathcam, I'm only 100% convinced that the NOTE mathcam is talking about is wrong. I'm like 95% sure that mathcam is scum, but theoretically, I suppose it could be jediknight sending malicious notes. To be safe, I'm voting for the person I find

most likely

to be scum. If people are convinced ZONEACE is innocent (!?!?), I'll definitely favor lynching mathcam over a no lynch or somebody else.

--Tactix

--Tactix

[mathcam]

Is this your

entire

defense? "I know I'm not scum, and thus the note has to be wrong."

I'm referring back to the Emperor's Hand mafia.. Although I DID run the game, ZONEACE had the same "Oh please kill me" attitude that he did when it turned out that the town wanted to lynch him. I ended up mod-killing him anyway, for revealing his role.. but the town lynched him -- and he did end up town..

I have a very vivid memory of an instance where ZONEACE did the exacct same thing...called everyone morons and berated everyone, and then turned out to actually be scum. I have to admit this is lurking in the back of my mind, making it all the more hard to trust ZONEACE. It would be a (probably fatal) mistake to associate ZONEACE's belligerence with innocence.

As to ZONEACE, it's possible he's telling the truth, but this doesn't seem extremely likely to me. It's more likely to me that a) the claim is fake (but can still send notes somehow), or b) he's telling the truth and Faith is scum. I'm very suspicious of the

numer

of roles that seem to be able to send notes, so jediknight probably deserves another look tomorrow too. The only reason I'm pretty sure that jediknight is accurate, at least in this case, is that his note (Tactix=Jasmine) was so close to reality (or, rather, the claim: Tactix=Cordelia) that it can't be dismissed as coincidence.

Cam

[ZONEACE]

would someone else please vote mathcam so he'll claim.

[mathcam]

For Christs's sake, ZONEACE. Could you please provide the town with one good reason, one piece of "logic" explaining this burning desire you have for me to claim? Because so far, you haven't presented any.

I'm extremely close to unvoting Tactix and voting for ZONEACE. There are a couple of unlikely ways that the note could lead us astray, but I can't see any way ZONEACE would be acting this way if he were actually working in favor of the town.

Cam

[ZONEACE]

For Christs's sake, ZONEACE. Could you please provide the town with one good reason, one piece of "logic" explaining this burning desire you have for me to claim? Because so far, you haven't presented any.

I'm extremely close to unvoting Tactix and voting for ZONEACE. There are a couple of unlikely ways that the note could lead us astray, but I can't see any way ZONEACE would be acting this way if he were actually working in favor of the town.

Cam

the reason, because you are the only one left to not claim, and i want to see who you are, because you remember that note on day too i was responsible for, its about you. so if you claim, we can easily clear up your innocence, if your role corresponds with the slightly confusing words of that note. ok. now do it, and help the town,.

[mathcam]

because you are the only one left to not claim

Not a valid reason for me to claim.

i want to see who you are

Not a valid reason for me to claim.

that note on day too i was responsible for, its about you

Could you just say this next time, instead of being infuriatingly vague and logicless about your pushing for me to claim? If I can become a confirmed innocent, or at least semi-confirmed, then

that

is something in the direction of being pro-town. Everything else you've said has just been scummy.

There is still the question of scum not getting too much info, including possibly you...I guarantee you that if I can keep the majority of my role secret, it will be better for the town. I am a slayerette. I'm pretty sure this is vague enough to not give too much away, and hopefully it will be enough to mesh with your info about me.

Cam

[ZONEACE]

mathcam is innocent.

unvote mathcam

i wont reveal cams role, since he doesnt want too much about it, but i know exactly who he is now. Cam, if possible, could you possible reveal your name? if you can do this for me, ill change my vote to tactix

[mathcam]

Wow. I'm not sure what to make of that.

In any case, I was thinking that revealing the name would be giving away too much, but the more I think about it, the less it really hurts anything. I'm Kennedy. It's not like scum couldn't have guessed it by this point anyway.

Okay, now we're one dead Tactix away from being ever-closer to winning this game.

Cam

[ZONEACE]

i dont beleive tactix's claim, but i want to hold my vote until mathcam responds to my request. the reason i dont beleive tactix, is we essentially know that Jasmine is in this game, and tactix claimed cordelia. First, Cordelia is in a coma as son as jasmine is born and long past her death. Second, Cordelia was evil in the time leading up to Jasmines birth.

[ZONEACE]

ok,

vote tactix

[mathcam]

Perhaps a prod of FD would be in order?

[Vraak X]

Fine, but if this is endgame, I sue.

VOTE: SubtleTactix

[willows_weep]

4 SubtleTactix ( JediKnight, Mathcam,VraakX,ZoneAce)
1 Mathcam (Olio)
1 ZoneAce (SubtleTactix)

[willows_weep]

Connor: You're the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
Jasmine: My sweet boy.
Connor: What happened to those people?
Jasmine: I ate them.
Connor: Cool.~script of angelverse


hahahahah

[willows_weep]

"I won't wear my button that says, "I'm a Slayer. Ask me how!"~Buffy

Uhm...it helps to be living.

Olio has died!
Buffy has died...again sure.
No chance to revisit that heaven though...perhaps she's somewhere cool though.

Olio-buffy has died

[mathcam]

So...anyone got any notes?

I'll leave my list of suspicions until we get all of our info out in the open.

Cam

[ZONEACE]

So...anyone got any notes?

I'll leave my list of suspicions until we get all of our info out in the open.

Cam

Ok, we know FD is xander, I am Fatith, and i have substaniated my claim with the revelation of tactix role. I believe mathcams claim as from teh time i saw the note that was the result of my investigation ive thought he was a potential and none of the potentials are evil. Im still a little wary of vraak but i feel fonfident enough to

vote jedi knight

[ZONEACE]

So...anyone got any notes?

I'll leave my list of suspicions until we get all of our info out in the open.

Cam

Ok, we know FD is xander, I am Fatith, and i have substaniated my claim with the revelation of tactix role. I believe mathcams claim as from teh time i saw the note that was the result of my investigation ive thought he was a potential and none of the potentials are evil. Im still a little wary of vraak but i feel fonfident enough to

vote jedi knight

[mathcam]

It definitely seems like the choice is between Vraak and jedi, but I was leaning toward Vraak over jedi. If jedi is scum, why did he send me a note incriminating his own godfather? Do you think he's an SK?

Cam

[ZONEACE]

mathcam. it doesnt matter which one it is. with the pattern of deaths (one a night) im guess in we have a scum to town rate of 1:4, so even if we are wrong it will be 1:3 then tomorrow 1:2 and the 2 lynch whichever one (jedi or vraak) is still alive. even if the ratio is 2:3, the 2 would have to be vraak and jedi so we just lynch one today and one tommorow and win.

[ZONEACE]

im also curious to know what happened on a privious night that allowed us to lynch cordelia/jasmine.

[ZONEACE]

mathcam. it doesnt matter which one it is. with the pattern of deaths (one a night) im guess in we have a scum to town rate of 1:4, so even if we are wrong it will be 1:3 then tomorrow 1:2 and the 2 lynch whichever one (jedi or vraak) is still alive. even if the ratio is 2:3, the 2 would have to be vraak and jedi so we just lynch one today and one tommorow and win.