UPick: Mafiascum Fantasy Camp - All over!

[Amrun]

So scum don't post quote stripes, yet SDC does, and yet he is still scum? I'm not following. Also why isn't agm higher in your list?

Also sorry about the gender thing.

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 1 Votecount #17

Brought to you with love from the staggering drunk walking down my road in a bright pink shirt.

DemonHybrid (2) - Candle Jack, AlmasterGM
Screaming Death Clan (2) - Hinduragi, Yami-Swan
AlmasterGM (2) - Meransiel, Vi
Amrun (1) - ToastyToast

Vi (3) - Amrun, Screaming Death Clan, MagnaofIllusion

Candle Jack (2) - Lady Lambdadelta, GreyICE
GreyICE (1) - Mastermind of Sin

Not voting (4)

Nikanor, inHimshallibe, DemonHybrid, Irony

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline for day 1 is (expired on 2011-08-27 17:07:25) or the 27th of August at 22:10 GMT, or 17:10 EST.

Please point out any mistakes you see in the votecount.

[Meransiel]

I'm waiting on him to post. My role is severely limiting how I usually play so I'm being forced to adopt my scummer's play, which is partly why I'm in character. I'm actually

being forced to learn

how he plays and scumhunts as I play this role.

Empking, is that you?

[Hinduragi]

No. I don't think I would even be able to learn how he scumhunts.

[Meransiel]

Easy, he doesn't.

Town has no need to manipulate townreads out of players.

Where did you get that from?

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'm currently trying to figure out who's simply stupid and who's scum. It's hard, mainly because these wagons are so retarded.

Actually what you seem to be doing is Cassandraing almost every wagon, whining about people not wagoning SDC with no case in sight, and generally not scum-hunting.

But if that's how you roll ...

[Yami-Swan]

There is a case in sight.
So Moi, what do YOU think of them?

[GreyICE]

No. I don't think I would even be able to learn how he scumhunts.

Step 1:buy a dartboard...

[Nikanor]

WHO IS THIS
Nikanor

Why am I all alone down here?

If everyone thinks that Amrun is scum, why isn't she dead yet?

Vote: Amrun.

[Hinduragi]

I basically one linered SDC-scum for you. Yami backed me up. And it's too early to be able to call buddies when everyone's riding shit wagons. Look, I'm pretty good at scumhunting. I am trying very hard to not get big-headed, but its becoming harder and harder as I am proven right time and time again. Obviously people also see SDC scum so it's pretty apparent I've done something right instead of voting probable town like most of these early wagons have done. I'm going with one liners because that's part of my character, and I'm thinking of taking up this playstyle and half-merging it with my old one minus the caps because I'm very sure that it's working. Yeah, I'm catching scum. That's how I roll. If you want to do the same, vote SDC.

[Hinduragi]

WHO IS THIS
Nikanor

Why am I all alone down here?

If everyone thinks that Amrun is scum, why isn't she dead yet?

Vote: Amrun.

Why weren't you voting before?

[Nikanor]

I have no vote, you silly goose.

[Amrun]

Upon rudimentary investigation, I looked back at our other game together, Vi. I remember getting this same squirrely feeling when you demanded to know why anyone didn't have a town read on you. I found it scummy then, tOo.

But you were town.

All things cnsidered, I am much more comfortable with you with your heckles up (even if it's at me).

Unvote; Vote: Candle Jack

[Yami-Swan]

Hindu, does it matter if you reveal who you are?
You're avoiding it and stuff and hinting at it
I'll assume no
I'm very curious though
And we've been trying to figure out for a while

[Hinduragi]

Oh, no wonder you threw your vote around like that. If you'd like, at the start of a day, I can accomodate you as long as your reads are in-line with mine.

I'm ABR. It's pretty hard to imitate him but I'm doing my best.

[Nikanor]

If you'd like, at the start of a day, I can accomodate you as long as your reads are in-line with mine.

How would this work?

[Amrun]

I was thinking socio, but that fits.

[Hinduragi]

If I was Socio, I would have softclaimed vig and I would be an SK. Plus I'd be caps'ing more.

[Amrun]

You did softclaim vig. Lol

But yeah probs more caps.

[Vi]

Unvote; Vote: Candle Jack

But my townread on AGM is considerably lower than the other townreads I have mentioned -

and in fact, if he turns out to be wrong about you, it will go out the window.

The townread is based upon the fact that I think you are scum and I think you and AGM are not both scum (or at least not scum together).

[Hinduragi]

SDC's lurking and general not participating in the game has now reached the point where they're not just scummy but obviously scummy.

[Candle Jack]

Vote: CandleJack

Whats with this vote?

It's called a reaction test, honey.

You failed.

Um, no. You can't just vote players with no given reason and expect them no to question what you are doing. This isn't a reaction test at all, its an unexplained vote with an obvious response by me wondering what you are doing with you vote and asking for an explanation.

Hey Ludi, how's it going?

Going pretty well right now. Got one strong scum read, a bunch of town reads, feeling confident. Whats up with you?

CandleJack just kept pushing for role details. Pushing for role details. Pushing for role details. Details that aren't really going to tell him if I'm scum, since he never explained why I wanted them - but forces me to claim WHAT nifty powers I have that lead me to fakeclaim third party when he knows I'm not scum.

Yes, if you claim third party, you can damn well expect to get asked to full claim exactly you role and how you win. Its generally pro-town to figure out the third parties win condition and then allow them to fulfill it because taking time to lynch them to get them out of the game generally hurts town. You can't just claim (now apparently a fakeclaim, which is worse,) that you are third party and that magical things happen when everyone says (that word), and not expect to be questioned on it. For one thing, you could be scum who gains abilities based on saying the name, or gambiting, or any number of possibilities.

That reaction test was lovely icing.

I also have no guarantee that you aren't still third party, or scum, so I don't think you can put it down as lolreaction test and hope to get away with doing that.

Grey - understand completely your stance on Candle Jack and find myself agreeing when combined with his response to LLD's vote.

Can you explain

specifically

what is wrong with asking why someone voted you with no stated reasons.

You probably are not going to have a shot at resurrecting that wagon now that DH has gone into “PR claim and Turtle” mode and isn’t posting.

You may certainly be right. Fight that fight tomorrow and help me lynch Vi-scum today.

What you stated is a perfectly good reason to get back on to this wagon. Claiming a weakish power role and then limited involvement afterwards reeks of scum. What if Vi claims a power role? Who is the next bandwagon to get started? I'm not going to just keep wagoning people to claims until we hit a vanilla or move of people when I think they are fakeclaiming.

Plus, I don't think Vi is scum at all after the last few pages.

[GreyICE]

Lol, tar scum yay we win

[Mastermind of Sin]

Unvote

GreyICE may in fact be more retarded than Meran...

Too sleep deprived to take in whatever else is going on right now.

[Screaming Death Clan]

I've told SpyreX I find Vi vaguely scummy and he seems WAY more gung-ho about it than I was. But eh, I told him to go for it, so that's his dance.

Hey, friends, have I told you about the Good Lord Jesus Christ today? And how he said, "

Irony is scum because I am the Lord Your God and I say so

"? 'Cause he did. I need a little sexy private QT time with SpyreX to show him this buuuuut I think Irony might be a better wagon than Vi.

Maybe

. I always love a Vi wagon.

Oh and PS whoever was like HAHAHAHA RECK FAILS AT EMULATING FATE I was breadcrumbing you dunce. Seriously WHO ELSE would SCREAMING DEATH CLAN put as their #1 choice? (Actually, ironically, Vi was our #1 choice until we switched with Fate).