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Hoopla,
VNL TWN
, ran out of letters Night 1!
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It is now Day 2.
Eleven players remain.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:18 pm
by Quilford
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:15 pm
by Voidedmafia
Vote: IceGuy
Reasoning from yesterday still stands.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:18 pm
by Voidedmafia
Flip: A4
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:23 pm
by AurorusVox
flip: g6
Vote:whisper
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:13 pm
by Voidedmafia
AVox, I don't see Whip-scum advocating or supporting a kill on the person who was calling her town as much as I was. Not for N1, anyways. I really don't think she should be a lynch candidate for today.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:12 am
by IceGuy
Flip: H6
Vote: MagnaofIllusion
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:01 am
by DCLXVI
Flip: B:6
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:38 am
by AurorusVox
VOTE: MoI
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:56 am
by MagnaofIllusion
VOTE: Iceguy
If it wasn't clear that the Arugula wagon was scum-driven to save partner Iceguy to you then I suggest you read again. Classic "Woe is me AtE" followed by lurking by Icescum while a magical wagon appeared suddenly.
Flip B5
@Vijay and Robo
- Both of your votes for Arugula looked scummy. Why was he scummy in your own words?
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:40 am
by MagnaofIllusion
@LLD
- Actually going to play the game today?
@DCL
- Now that your top scum read flipped Town who is scum?
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:49 am
by AurorusVox
Actually yeah
Unvote; Vote: DCL
Terrible fucking start to the day.
I need more time to process ICEguy vs MoI - one of them is scum, MoI's last two posts have me wondering.
@VM, please explain more closely why I'm not voting Whiskers today - you're not dead, so why would the fact that Whiskers wouldn't kill you as scum make him any less likely to be scum?
If it wasn't clear that the Arugula wagon was scum-driven to save partner Iceguy to you then I suggest you read again. Classic "Woe is me AtE" followed by lurking by Icescum while a magical wagon appeared suddenly.
You know who was the first to jump off my wagon after I posted what you're referring to as "AtE" (if you had actually read the game, you would have noticed that it was an accurate summation of the "case" presented against me so far)? That was whispersilk in #374. In one of your last posts yesterday, you specifically said you do not want to lynch whispersilk, although you suspected her earlier.
Your "associative" tell (without a single flip, just a bunch of assumptions) doesn't even hold water compared to your own claims and reads.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:04 am
by AurorusVox
Scum must be amongst the following:
[MoI/ICEguy] / DCL / Vijay / Whisper
Strong Town:
Robo is town and I actually read LLD as town this game~
WeakTown: Amrun, 2minds, VM.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:05 am
by AurorusVox
I want to put ICE in the strong town section...MoI inspired paranoia says no.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:20 am
by MagnaofIllusion
So once we flip Iceguy scum we can move on to deciding if both his partners joined him on the mislynch wagon (which not ironically AV has indicated is within his scum tool-belt) or if one is in the floaters who didn't cast any meaningful votes Day 1.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:44 am
by IceGuy
↑MagnaofIllusion wrote:So once we flip Iceguy scum we can move on to deciding if both his partners joined him on the mislynch wagon (which not ironically AV has indicated is within his scum tool-belt) or if one is in the floaters who didn't cast any meaningful votes Day 1.
Read, "I don't actually have anything to say so I hope I can just repeat it often enough and I'll get my mislynch through".
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:15 am
by Voidedmafia
AVox Post 511 - Well, I am basing this on the logic that Whisp-scum would want to try and keep those most pushing for her as town alive, which were myself and Hoopla yesterday. Going just by this NK analysis, I suppose it shouldn't be enough to change her read a lot, but I still feel it points more to Whisp-town than Whisp-scum.
I will admit that it's still likely that, since Hoopla wasn't AS adamant as me about Whisp-town (or at least not as vocal), she was a safe bet for offing, but still.
B) I see no mention of Whisper from the post of MoI you linked.
C) ...And your point about Whisper is what?
AVox Post 514 - I really don't see how LLD has shown herself to be town.
IG [post=517] - Read: "I don't actually have anything to defend so I hope I can just keep being snarky and hope it drips enough that people don't lynch me:.
B) I see no mention of Whisper from the post of MoI you linked.
C) ...And your point about Whisper is what?
Can you start quoting instead of throwing out lines?
The point is: MoI claimed that the jump-off from my wagon and the subsequent Arugula wagon were scum-driven, but in one of his last posts yesterday claimed that whisper is not amongst the people he'd feel comfortable lynching, i.e. not scum. So he's contradicting his own reads.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:15 am
by Voidedmafia
I already explained why I'm not. And I refuse to until they get that fixed (or explain how to fix it).
Also, so what if Whisper wasn't one of the ones he's comfortable lynching? Scum obviously aren't everyone on the wagon, and since he's still got a fairly strong townread on her as far as I remember, it's not THAT contradictory to leave her off.
Are you really trying to claim that because he's not listing everyone who was on the Arug wagon as comfortable lynches is contradictory?
If it wasn't clear that the Arugula wagon was scum-driven to save partner Iceguy to you then I suggest you read again. Classic "Woe is me AtE" followed by lurking by Icescum while a magical wagon appeared suddenly.
Flip B5
@Vijay and Robo
- Both of your votes for Arugula looked scummy. Why was he scummy in your own words?
Because he wasn't playing like Arugula town, who is meeker than that.
Flip: I4
VOTE: DCLXVI
and no AVox, I'm not scum. Anyway, give me your thoughts on the letters people got yesterday.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:10 am
by IceGuy
↑Voidedmafia wrote:
Are you really trying to claim that because he's not listing everyone who was on the Arug wagon as comfortable lynches is contradictory?
No - I'm claiming his reads are made up and his statements today contradict them because of that.
He claims scum derailed my wagon and set up the Arugula one.
The first player to jump off my wagon was whisper - not a scum suspect according to him.
L-1 and hammer on Arugula were done by you and Amrun respectively - also not scum suspects according to him.
And that's although he listed six scum suspects (i.e. half the game that was not confirmed town to him):
↑MagnaofIllusion wrote:
As to me - if Arugula is indeed Town (which would guess is the case given what I have seen) I'd be confortable lynching in the following -
Iceguy, AV, DCL, Robo, Vijay, LLD
He's basically saying "that was a scum-driven derail and new wagon, but neither the person starting it nor the people ending it are scum". How the fuck does that make any sense?
At most, he could claim that the people in-between are scum for jumping on the mislynch wagon - but he can't use that narrative because it would make me town, and he can't have that because I'm the designated mislynch.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:08 pm
by AurorusVox
Ice goes back to strong town.
Vijay, I'll look over when I'm not on my phone unless someone wants to summarise letters people took for me? Vijay needs to explain his voting yesterday.
Vm I know, strange right? I rarely agree with lld (i think she fooled me in defcon) but I found things she posted tickled me nicely in a gut town read sorta way. I can point to specifics when I'm back home with laptop access.