Alright, I want to get a few last thoughts down as a summary and then hammer this thing. I hope no one minds too much that it's not last second, I don't consider it likely that more fresh voices will enter in the last hour or so.
Highlight from the 11th hour:
- the double mason claim from Cub/Apozzle, appears legit to me. If you're happy to treat it as truth then their opening Day posts become really valuable. (Apozzle's
#390 for example)
What are my thoughts if GM flips scum?
- this is too early to speculate on. Obviously I think it's possible given her posts and the beef I've had with them, but her recent tone has tempered her scumminess. However, this could've merely been done to open the door for a quick scum rush onto Apozzle. Regardless of the flip flopping, I'm pushing through with the lynch, I want to see the flip and if it's scum I won't be able to say much until night actions are resolved and I'm left breathing.
What are my thoughts if GM flips town?
- this to me would signify that scum have been floating a lot more under the radar for most of the day. If you take the two masons to be more or less confirmed, then they are sitting on GM's wagon, I'm on there (take that to mean what you will), 3 of my townish/null reads are on there and then there's NS. From my perspective I take this to mean that the wagon has mostly been town driven.
I want to briefly put down thoughts on two people, because I think regardless of the flip town should be
very
interested in either of these two on the 'morrow.
ac1983fan
- lots of quoting, a few jibes on people here and there and very little content or concerted scumhunting. Thanks to his meticulous quoting we have easy access to a beautiful bit of banter between him and Safety that goes nowhere in
#305. For the most part my opinion hasn't changed from what I said in
#391, I'm just slowly elaborating on it.
Safety Dance
- a wistful thought right now is how much better it would be to be sitting on a Safety lynch. Speaking of that feeling about GM's wagon being town-driven, when plenty of folks where nabbing her about #329 and #331 there were three who came in shortly after and completely ignored it: NS, ac1983fan (in response to NS) and Safety who posted
#341 &
#342 saying very little about anything before going V/LA.
I'm noticing an emerging pattern from Safety where what he says isn't quite lining up with what he's doing. Take the early game where he made a comment about NS' scumminess, voted him and then switched it to me when he interpreted what I posted as scumbuddy sign. That's fine, but perhaps a bit superfluous to immediately switch votes since you've already got it sitting on one scum suspect. And it's doubly weird considering that the main scum-tell from me was a FoS as opposed to a vote, when I had made crystal clear why I was doing one and not the other.
A recent example is his
#477 & [urlhttp://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=4771982#p4771982]#488[/url], all players discussed as lynch/watch targets in #477 are duly ignored and a lynch is placed on Apozzle in #488. See what I mean about not quite lining up? It's just like switching his vote suddenly to me and then when questioned about it declares that he still finds NS scummy too. Then why switch votes so suddenly? Was I
extra
scummy? It doesn't make sense. Something to note is how much he's picked and chosen when to call the lurking thing scummy. He's picked on NS constantly about it, but ignored Human Destroyer and ac1983fan and even jumped on the Apozzle wagon with them
while
criticising the GM wagon because NS is on it.
↑ SafetyDance wrote:Why I'm not accepting NS claim to be more proactive Day 2:
From ISO 13 here he makes nine, NINE posts with little to no content in them before reaching lylo.
Now, he just jumps on the biggest wagon to help it move to L-1.
Please get on his wagon, I'd be very happy for it build. It'll end in tears.
If I were to say Safety is scum, and I'm very close to doing so, I'd also suggest that he's easily thrown a scumbuddy in there out of the names he reeled off. Since myself and Cub were in the lynch group, let's look at the one's to watch group. ac1983fan, Belisarius and Cheery Dog. So again he chose the Apozzle wagon over GM's despite it having
all
of the people he wants to be looked at more. Does that make sense? (in terms of likely scumbuddy I'd order them: ac1983fan, Cheery Dog, Belisarius).
Bonus Person
And for my final thought let's talk briefly about NS. NS is thus-far useless. Lurking, scummy, vague you name it. There is no way I want to see NS coast into Lylo at this rate. However, NS can also be the go-to name for anyone who wants to derail any current discussion. Start a bit of open speculation about someone's post and anyone can barge in yelling "NS is scummy! Kill him!" and the thread will collapse into a session of scumminess of lurking vs his meta and so forth. I'd much rather if the suspicion was cast on people making those sorts of easy calls, rather than NS himself for the time being. There are two people above that I want town to look at seriously. There are also others.
I'm not trying to set up the lynches of tomorrow, I'm merely trying to get these thoughts down in case I don't live to see it.
