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Who will survive? (non-players may vote)

Poll ended at Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:31 pm

Mafia
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Mafia
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SK
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26%
They'll all vanish in a puff of logic.
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Town
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4%
 
Total votes: 27

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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:25 am

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Vote Count

MoS(2)-- DGF, PBuG
PBuG(1)---Auda



Not Voting: everyone else

4 to lynch
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:15 pm

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rats. I wrote a long post and then lost it. I'll replace it tomorrow.
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:39 am

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Unvote


My appearances are going to be spotty (or continue to be spotty, for that matter) over the next couple of days.

MoS still tops my SK list, so I don't want to vote for him right now.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:42 am

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Interesting. There is no evidence whatsoever that MoS is the SK.

Whether he is or not, PBuG has most acted like a SK.

However Aud unvotes PBuG.

Puzzling.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:52 am

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Very true. If he thinks MoS is the SK, then why unvote PBuG? Perhaps PBuG is his scum buddy, and due to the fact that he's not going to be around, doesn't want his vote there in case he can't remove it in time.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:52 am

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I outlined my arguments against MoS back here. Not much has changed. Considering that if he indeed is scum, he seems to have no allies in this fight, leads me to think that he could be the SK. Although, come to think of it, he wasn't in on the Mariyta lynch ...

I'll have to think about this a bit more. My gut feeling is that he still seems to be on his own island a bit too much to be pure scum.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:13 am

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BTW, has MoS unvoted me? In his last post, he said he was happy with his vote, but I see no vote of his in the vote count.

If MoS is scum, his scumbuddy will lie low and not defend him at all! I expect the scumbuddy to try to throw suspicion on another player rather than defend MoS. But then he would be unlikely to vote for him.

In fact, that's what MoS is doing. He voted for me, no explanation, after I voted kops. kops reinforced MoS's vote with a post against me, with a FOS. kops attacks and mocks PBuG for voting along with me.

When I brought up a LAL point against MoS, kops apologized for him: "I don't think he realized that the town can still win with town lynch + SK/scum crossfire. "
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:35 am

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Looking at voting patterns:

MoS: stingy with his vote. He was not on the Mariyta(scum) lynch. He voted only for DGB, THT and TMH(Doc).

Mariyta (dead scum): She voted a lot. She voted kops, Aud, MoS, and TMH.

kops was stingy with his vote as well.
He only voted Maryita[/b]

Who was on the Mariyta lynch? kops, DGB, Aud.
Who was not? PBuG, THT, MoS.

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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:50 am

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Let's do a play-by-play starting with this interesting vote count:

themanhimself 3: (audacesiuvat, Quagmire, the_holy_thom)
Mastermind of Sin 3: (Mariyta*, themanhimself, PBuG)
Mariyta 2: (Mackay, DrippingGoofball)

Mariyta* unvotes MoS, reducing his danger...


themanhimself 3: (audacesiuvat, Quagmire, the_holy_thom)
Mastermind of Sin 2: (themanhimself, PBuG)
Mariyta 2*: (Mackay, DrippingGoofball)

In a separate post, Mariyta* votes TMH, increasing his danger...

themanhimself 4: (audacesiuvat, Quagmire, the_holy_thom, Mariyta*)
Mastermind of Sin 2: (themanhimself, PBuG)
Mariyta 2*: (Mackay, DrippingGoofball)

sentinel99 jumps on... he's dead, so no analysis required.

PBuG unvotes MoS.

themanhimself 5: (audacesiuvat, Quagmire, the_holy_thom, Mariyta*, sentinel99)
Mastermind of Sin 1: (themanhimself)
Mariyta 2*: (Mackay, DrippingGoofball)

TMH unvotes MoS.

themanhimself 5: (audacesiuvat, Quagmire, the_holy_thom, Mariyta*, sentinel99)
Mariyta 2*: (Mackay, DrippingGoofball)

kops doesn't hop on TMH's wagon. Rather, he is suspicious of Maryita enough to vote for her:

themanhimself 5: (audacesiuvat, Quagmire, the_holy_thom, Mariyta*, sentinel99)
Mariyta 3*: (Mackay, DrippingGoofball, kops)

I think kops is innocent


After an lenghty discussion of the merits of a mass claim, we have another vote... PBuG.

themanhimself 6: (audacesiuvat, Quagmire, the_holy_thom, Mariyta*, sentinel99, PBuG)
Mariyta 3*: (Mackay, DrippingGoofball, kops)

DerHammer (Town) hammers TMH (Town).

Tally of TMH voters:

audacesiuvat (?)
Quagmire(Town)
the_holy_thom (?)
MariytaI(Scum)
sentinel99(Town)
PBuG (?)
DerHammer(Town)

Survivors = Aud, THT, and PBuG.

I'll do the same for Maryita's lynch. Hold on.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:02 am

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Let's do a play-by-play starting with this interesting vote count:

Aud starts the day. She votes for Maryita, which, if Aud was scum, would be a dangerous thing, because Maryita was already under quite a bit of suspicion.
PBuG follows through voting MoS.

Maryita 1: (Aud)
MoS 1: (PBuG)

Maryita then writes: "While I would absolutely love to vote MoS, I don't think he is our best choice at this point. Vote: kops
"

Maryita 1: (Aud)
MoS 1: (PBuG)
kops 1: (Maryita*)

kops votes Maryita:

Maryita 2: (Aud, kops)
MoS 1: (PBuG)
kops 1: (Maryita*)

More movement from a the deceased:

Maryita 3: (Aud, kops, sentinel99)
MoS 1: (PBuG)
kops 1: (Maryita*)

Aud posts to "confirm vote" on Mariyta with a sledgehammer argument.
I think Aud is Town, with this.


Maryita 3: (Aud, kops, sentinel99)
MoS 1: (PBuG)
kops 1: (Maryita*)

I vote Maryita, and Quagmire hammers.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:03 am

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MoS unvoted in 493

I still like an auda, PBuG or MoS lynch today.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:05 am

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EBWOP: do you have a rough location of Auda's confirmation?
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:10 am

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My conclusions:

Me (Town)
audacesiuvat (Town)
kops (Town)

Bad news for:
MoS
PBuG
THT

Because of the discrete, but real connection between Maryita and MoS, MoS is the most likely SCUMBUDDY.

I am going to go through today's actions if they fit with the above.

Aud's "confirm post" is Post 343
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:16 am

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On another note, our deceased cop never voted for: kops, DGB, or Aud (or Mackay, DerHammer, Sentinel99 or quagmire.

The cop did vote for THT, PBuG, MoS, Mariyta, TMH.

SO he *might* have had an innocent result on 2 out of the 6 players he didn't vote for.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:39 am

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Today's votes:

PBuG was swift to vote Aud, on his own. They are not scumbuddies.

MoS wrote: "Why is it that you and auda are going to be lynch today? Because of DGB's say-so? All I'm seeing here is DGB making arguments against you two and everyone else just falling in line. If there were decent arguments for someone else to be scum, we'd probably look at them as well, but no one has offered any sort of analysis except DGB's against you two. " Which is interesting that he's too lazy/scummy to bother offering alternatives. He's waiting for another player to come up with a better plan for him to follow... is that what he's saying?

Later, out of the blue, MoS states that he'd like an Auda lynch. I bet he would. I then gave Auda a vote #2. I do note that THT showed up and did NOT vote for Aud. That's makes me a little shaky in my belief that THT may be a bad guy.

I then switched to MoS. PBuG followed.

I then switched to kops. That's when MoS voted for me, no explanation, capital letters. PBuG follows me and votes kops. PBuG unvotes, FOS's kops and MoS.

I switched to MoS. PBuG follows.

Note that PBuG did not hesitate to vote for 3 people out of 5 I could vote for, excluding himself, and me. Aud, MoS, and kops. Not all 3 are Town, that's for sure. So he's not hesitating to vote for scum or Town. He doesn't know, he doesn't care.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:58 am

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Unless you 2 are scum buddies ;)

I'm not voting anyone at this stage, since it's too risky. I don't want to put the scum in a position where they can hammer.

I'm not sure about Auda's "sledgehammer" argument - it was the end for Mariyat, but any of us could have pointed that out, he was just the first to post. He could have been burning bridges.

Also, sentinel99 died N2, meaning he could only have 1 result. It would be better to just look at who he voted for day 2: Mariyta. Meaning he probably got a guilty on her, or an innocent on anyone else.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:08 am

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How risky is it to vote for MoS???

I think PBuG is the SK, he has to live.

I don't really need to know which one of Aud, kops, or THT are Town or scum. I am not the one that's going to be shooting at night.

However, I do want to make sure the "Town's SK" has good aim. I think the Town has enough information to lynch MoS. I also think the SK has good information to shoot down some Mafia.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:16 am

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Another thing in Aud's favor in the Maryita lynch is that
she started the day
with a vote for her. Aud cast the first vote on her, then she "confirme voted" in the Mariyta's claim meltdown.

Yep. I am pretty sure Aud is Town.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:20 am

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Sorry for being careful in a lynch or lose situation.

Aud doesn't want to lynch him because he thinks he's the SK, PBuG will vote whoever you want, so me and kops are needed to lynch him. I'd like to hear what kops has to say, but I'm happy with an MoS lynch today as I've said. If there's no word from kops by tomorrow (different time zones - his last few posts have been after midnight here) I'll vote MoS
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:27 am

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In my own defense regarding the Mariyta lynch, I was not around to vote for her. I would have if I could, but I got out of school last Tuesday. I'm happy with an MoS lynch, obviously.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:34 am

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the_holy_thom wrote:Am I as under the radar as you MoS?

Posts today:
Me: 21 (not including this one)
DG: 31
kops: 15
PBuG: 30
Auda: 7
MoS: 8

So that's another stupid thing said! Really, try and you know, think before you post. It helps everyone. Also, don't commit gross hypocrisy like you have in this game.

Also, I love the way your model doesn't have any townies in - nice work there. Sure sign of an SK - thinks everyone is against him.

Basically you've reiterated what I said with some crap thrown in. Nice work there. About as much use as you've been all game.

DG hasn't been wagoning - that was PBuG, whom I think should be today's lynch. DG has been measuring people's reactions, and your reaction when she voted for kops was classic.
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Next time you try to misrepresent me, be more subtle about it.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:48 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Looking at voting patterns:

MoS: stingy with his vote. He was not on the Mariyta(scum) lynch. He voted only for DGB, THT and TMH(Doc).

Mariyta (dead scum): She voted a lot. She voted kops, Aud, MoS, and TMH.

kops was stingy with his vote as well.
He only voted Maryita[/b]

Who was on the Mariyta lynch? kops, DGB, Aud.
Who was not? PBuG, THT, MoS.

More on that in a few minutes.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:49 am

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Next time you try to misrepresent me, be more subtle about it.
:lol:

Attempting to start bandwagons, jumping on bandwagons, it's the same basic action.

Also, I know that posts =/ flying over the radar (couldn't think of a better phrase), but I also know that not posting = lurking. I have been far more active than you, and have posted more than crappy defenses, insults and complaints. Sod waiting for kops - you get my vote now.

Vote: MoS


Oh, and you might want to go and check, but she did accuse me. It helps if you actually post, as then you know whats going on in the game.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:52 am

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I believe that DGB and THT are our mafia, and PBug, Auda, or Kops are the SK at this point. Those two have been working together way too much today for it to just be coincidence. On the offchance that DGB might be scum (like I said before, realizing she was wrong about the LAL argument was a redeeming factor), I'm going to
vote: THT
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Since half of you are scum anyways, I don't expect any of my arguments to stop my lynch, but let it be known that when I die and come up as protown, just like some of you know I will, the SK better hit either DGB or THT tonight, because they are our mafia.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:55 am

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It's not just the Mariyta lynch, MoS, but the whole package.

If you're not scum... then who is?

You have some vague complaints here and there, about me, kops, pbug, and THT. But you're not committing. You're not really racking your brains trying to find scum. I think it's because you know who the scum is.
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