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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:28 pm
by Nachomamma8
Since Dan's around, can you ask him to do an ISO on Shadoweh if he has time?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:31 pm
by Nachomamma8
DeasVail wrote:Espeonage

1) Why?
2) Why aren't you doing anything to stop it? I mean yeah, CDB is claimed PR and you don't want to lynch him and we're really close to deadline, but it seems like voting one of your top 5/6 townreads would cause some sort of reaction, no?

I know you've talked about the Marquis read a lot and it's probably mostly been beaten to death but could you talk about it again? I'm afraid that he could/would fake some of the self-conscious stuff he's put in thread (stuff that I found pretty town like "how do you even scumhunt?"), I'm not really sure his !!! gimmick approach to the game was less town-motivated and scum-motivated, and while I found he did a bunch of stuff that was good in regards to it was town-feeling, I don't remember any of his scum/town pushes being better than marginally okay.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:32 pm
by fferyllt
let me know when you're done with the shadoweh stuff and I'll paraphrase and post.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:41 pm
by Nachomamma8
Apology to Espy in 2688 seems pretty solid.

Shadoweh wrote:Oh. You picked one of my only friends playing left. I wish I could disagree that big post felt weird.

And this. I didn't see this post before but holy shit does it read town.\

The STRONG townread when Dan started reacting feels nice, as do most of the interactions with Dan in general.

I think I started this reread with the mindset that I was only townreading Shadoweh because I like Shadoweh as a person but I do feel pretty strongly about her being town so it's nice that I have a good read on her instead of one of those "oh I think she's town here are reasons she's town" conf-bias reads. I BELIEVE.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:57 pm
by Nachomamma8
Actiondan.
Bulbazak.
Deasvail.
Formerfish. (Marquis.)
GuyinFreezer.
Untrod Tripod.

Deas: He called you town beyond town in the early game when you were posting a lot. Then, after you went inactive, he really didn't have any significant interactions with you for about 10 days, ended up forming a pretty strong scumread on singer, formed strong townreads elsewhere, lynched someone. I don't think that it's unreasonable at all for his read on you to degenerate like that over a long period of time: why do you disagree? Do you think he specifically should have found recent reasons to townread you even though I haven't?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:59 pm
by fferyllt
I'm confused. who is "he" in that paragraph?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:00 pm
by fferyllt
never mind figured it out.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:16 pm
by Nachomamma8
Gamma's new reason for finding Deas scum was his scumlist being Bulba and a pile of lurkers.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:19 pm
by Nachomamma8
Dan has claimed Power Role and is being vouched for by Shadoweh. I like his reactions, I think he's probably town even though I'm not as confident in Dan-town as I am in Shadoweh town. I think Marquis is town in the Marquis-Deas interaction. I noticed that Marquis reached out and sort of attached himself to Deas early: I don't really think that Marquis does that as scum or that the two of them do it as scum-scum. I felt Marquis's side of the interactions felt very very honest while DV's didn't exactly excite me to the same extent. I don't like DV's reads at this point in time: the sudden townread on Espeonage when he didn't have that townread before seems fishy as all hell.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:20 pm
by fferyllt
did dan actually claim power role?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:21 pm
by Nachomamma8
Bulbazak I'm having pretty serious doubts about BUT he should be dead eventually thanks to scum knowing his sign and all, so I think that one is liable to sort itself out (if he's day by Minor Day 4 or so, kill the shit out of him). I think that the slot could get very very readable with mollie's involvement so reaching out to her is probably the best possible way to read this slot/propel it to strong town if it deserves to be there.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:22 pm
by Nachomamma8
Dan softclaimed power role.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:23 pm
by fferyllt
I'd rather not call attention to that. will reword if that's ok.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:24 pm
by Nachomamma8
I think UT's scum, full stop. I wish we lynched him earlier: he had genuine pieces in the moment, but nothing overly spectacular.

I'm feeling uneasy about GIF: ika on his own is very very readable (if he posts a lot, he's town) and has shown interest in the thread so him getting pulled in the game to talk and actually do things would be absolutely fantastic.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:39 pm
by Nachomamma8
@Westeros:
I don't know if any of you have played with Titus before but a lot of the moonlogic being railed is pretty typical moonlogic. I'd love love love for you to go through her past games to get a bit more familiar with you because her scum play really doesn't look like this. I wish I could get more specific but it's hard trawling through your ISO for specific scum Titus cases but all I can say is I have a very strong townread here, please at least reconsider.

Re: Shadoweh:
1) We agreed with Tammy on Zar. I don't really find it scummy to agree with Tammy in a situation where her passion is CLEAR and OUT THERE while Zar's is pretty much not there at all. I don't know why on earth you found that tone scummy but it reads pretty genuine to me and also I don't really think that "oh she was mean to Zar" is a particularly good point. The voteswitch from Empire was talked about: she said that she found it unlikely Empire would willingly replace into a scum slot, which is probably what that initial vote switch was about. The later townread was likely her finding reasons in Empire's posts to townread the slot.

2) Booo.

3) TTH is probably not flipping scum.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:41 pm
by Nachomamma8
why is it 18 votes and not 19?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:44 pm
by Nachomamma8
oh and not that it matters but my personal scumpool would be gif/formerfish/ut/bulbyzak

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:47 pm
by Nachomamma8
I wouldn't lynch Espeonage tomorrow if no lynch.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:48 pm
by Nachomamma8
UT, why choose to make that post instead of comment on anything that we put in the thread prior?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:49 pm
by Nachomamma8
tick tock goes the clock
urging the darkness closer
to dead QTs in the sky

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:50 pm
by Nachomamma8
Nachomamma8 wrote:tick tock goes the clock
darkness urging us
to dead QTs in the sky

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:52 pm
by Nachomamma8
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:tick tock goes the clock
darkness urging us
to dead QTs in the sky

nevermind i'm just horrible at haikus :'(

@singer: >.>

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:57 pm
by Nachomamma8
Untrod Tripod wrote:do you think I should be impressed that you wrote a lot of words, or am I supposed to fall on my knees at what you have to say because you lucked into getting your role PM revealed?

i'm not asking to be impressed
i'm asking for you to engage our reads and tell us where we're going wrong in townreads

but needless aggression when all we're doing is reading you wrong is nice too

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:58 pm
by Nachomamma8
Mollie STARTED.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:59 pm
by Nachomamma8
spoilers spoil
my mystery, my wonder
yay dead qt!!!