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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:56 am
by Postie
RadiantCowbells wrote:Postie give spreadsheet pls.

Sure, I'll give access. To other people. And then we'll form a secret society that maintains and updates the spreadsheet. A secret society that plots your demise.

jk

If I wanted to be that mean I'd turn it into an RC-alignment-reading bot and then release it for everyone on the site to use.


RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't think you'd have lynched me <3

Probably not based just on the content I had to go off up until now, but I like to think you would have gotten obvscummier with more pressure on you. This was definitely one of your townier scumgames though, so good job.

Also congrats on the scummy; you definitely deserve it!

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:57 am
by BlueTrin
Sorry for replacing out, I thought the game would require a lot of time, in retrospect I'd have liked to have played it :)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:00 pm
by BlueTrin
Rhaegar wrote:I think my point on BlueTrin was fairly accurate, his interaction with me was just plain odd.

It is not at all accurate, I am commonly read as scum equally when I am town or scum because I do this kind of thing: I just dislike incorrect facts and I was only trying to help.

See my other games where I am accused of being scum when being town for similar reasons.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:06 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Postie wrote:
RadiantCowbells wrote:Postie give spreadsheet pls.

Sure, I'll give access. To other people. And then we'll form a secret society that maintains and updates the spreadsheet. A secret society that plots your demise.

jk

If I wanted to be that mean I'd turn it into an RC-alignment-reading bot and then release it for everyone on the site to use.


RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't think you'd have lynched me <3

Probably not based just on the content I had to go off up until now, but I like to think you would have gotten obvscummier with more pressure on you. This was definitely one of your townier scumgames though, so good job.

Also congrats on the scummy; you definitely deserve it!


Your spreadsheet did not save you from 2 losses to Scum!RC including one where I replaced into a slot that was generally scumread.

I will say 10 very nice things about you if you share the spreadsheet damnit.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:17 pm
by Rhaegar
BlueTrin wrote:
Rhaegar wrote:I think my point on BlueTrin was fairly accurate, his interaction with me was just plain odd.

It is not at all accurate, I am commonly read as scum equally when I am town or scum because I do this kind of thing: I just dislike incorrect facts and I was only trying to help.

See my other games where I am accused of being scum when being town for similar reasons.


If you know people scumread you for doing something, why do it as scum? Why risk the extra attention? Anyway, there wasn't any way I was going to know that meta either.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:18 pm
by This is my username
Wow, did not expect RadiantCowbells to flip scum.

GG, I played poorly I apologize for that. The fact that Not_Mafia was, well, not mafia was surprising.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:24 pm
by This is my username
Honestly despite being wrong about the majority of his reads I think Ranger played the best this game. Granted, I got to see all the content he put in the Twilight PT.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:25 pm
by This is my username
She*, sorry Ranger

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:28 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I think Ranger is a great player. He's really good, really proud of his performance.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:31 pm
by BlueTrin
Rhaegar wrote:
BlueTrin wrote:
Rhaegar wrote:I think my point on BlueTrin was fairly accurate, his interaction with me was just plain odd.

It is not at all accurate, I am commonly read as scum equally when I am town or scum because I do this kind of thing: I just dislike incorrect facts and I was only trying to help.

See my other games where I am accused of being scum when being town for similar reasons.


If you know people scumread you for doing something, why do it as scum? Why risk the extra attention? Anyway, there wasn't any way I was going to know that meta either.

I don't care so much about it.

I thought you wanted to know how to read Ranger reads. I played literally half of my games with her so I am familiar with her reads. Usually Ranger is quite accurate and is often killed on D1, I thought you would like to know how to use her reads.

I was being helpful and not trying to score points. I thought the posts about how to read her posts were more meta than posts within the game.

In the end people will lynch me as town and the people I'll play with will learn it.

PEDIT: RC ... Ranger is a She !

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:32 pm
by BlueTrin
Lastly if I didn't replace out I would have called you on calling me scum for explaining her reads, and pushed you on that weak argumentation.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:46 pm
by Postie
RadiantCowbells wrote:Your spreadsheet did not save you from 2 losses to Scum!RC including one where I replaced into a slot that was generally scumread.

I will say 10 very nice things about you if you share the spreadsheet damnit.

Haha, well, if it's so useless, it shouldn't matter. :P

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:48 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Whyyy :(

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:49 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I'm officially going to move you back to </3 soon.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:08 pm
by Postie
Well, it's not all bad - you get to be something resembling a Compulsive Friendly Neighbour in your town games with me.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:11 pm
by RadiantCowbells
No you.

:(

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:53 pm
by PantherPunt
Blacklisting self voters. town self implode but mafia took advantage of it so gg I guess

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:55 pm
by PantherPunt
say whatever you want but you played against wincon ultimately. "Oh well self hammering proved someone else was scum" obviously no it fucking didn't.

Bush league

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:58 pm
by This is my username
I'm fine with blacklisting me but blacklisting Ranger is an awful idea. Do you really think she could've predicted that when she self-voted, Not_Mafia (who had been lurking at the time) would've voted her to hammer her because he genuinely thought she was scum?

Not_Mafia played poorly this game, and was obvscum because of it. Don't blame that on Ranger for setting up that trap.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:00 pm
by Not_Mafia
The thing is, I wasn't scum

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:06 pm
by Not_Mafia
You don't get to say "he was confirmed scum" when a) I wasn't scum and b) Only you and Ranger were scumreading me for it. The trap was fine, the problem was running the game in to the ground with the black and white hammer=scum mentatlity.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:08 pm
by Maestro
PantherPunt wrote:Blacklisting self voters. town self implode but mafia took advantage of it so gg I guess

Your tone is far too harsh. Given that Twilight is as much a part of this game as the Day 1 lynches where all the focus is, Ranger played astronomically better than you, objectively speaking. Your lackluster play and Ranger's subsequent militaristic analysis of it during Twilight inspired them to kill you when (as you can see from the Twilight thread) the decision was clearly very close to being sealed on Scum. It could've gone either way, and maybe you self-imploded, but a TTT lynch D1 does not = Town implosion and Ranger and TIMU are certainly not blacklist material.



As a Sparknotes version of my mod notes, and in reply to the idea that this setup is Triplicate (+gimmick), I might be inclined to agree except really this is Shortnight +1, not directly based on Triplicate. I do think the Twilight outcomes turn out
FAR
more balanced in the original Shortnight version...but...this is one of a few setups that I've run (@Trollie - remember Posh Mafia?
*wipes away a tear*
Good times...)
where I look back at the end and go "HEY MAESTRO that was kinda Town-sided dude" and then I look at the Scum win and I just shrug and go "MEEEH it's fiiine"

:P

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:09 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I really think both of these setups were town sided.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:38 pm
by This is my username
Not_Mafia wrote:You don't get to say "he was confirmed scum" when a) I wasn't scum and b) Only you and Ranger were scumreading me for it. The trap was fine, the problem was running the game in to the ground with the black and white hammer=scum mentatlity.

The point was that Ranger doesn't deserve to be blacklisted. And you were obvscum, but Town, which is actually pretty impressive.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:52 pm
by This is my username
I explained why already.