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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2008 2:19 am

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Neither do I, but I don't want to dismiss the possibility because it could really bite us in our collective asses.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2008 11:40 am

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Yeah, so roffman has to be the recruiter if he's in the cult. If he was a recruitee, 1) that would mean mafia was recruitable (broken), 2) Why would he have/claim the kill stopping ability?
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2008 3:06 am

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Well, that makes sense, I suppose. We do have to consider the fact that there were two night kills, and cults don't tend to get nightkills unless they can't recruit, right? So... that might mean there's a vig or the "cult" isn't a cult. Eh... I suppose roffman is the right call now.

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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2008 6:46 am

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I'm leaning the cult isn't a cult, but roffman is pretty assured scum.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2008 10:18 am

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I'm not seeing the logic all that well, but the lies roffman appears to have told indicate that he's scum. I'll probably vote him unless something the replacements say change my mind.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu May 08, 2008 10:32 am

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windkirby wrote:I'm not seeing the logic all that well, but the lies roffman appears to have told indicate that he's scum. I'll probably vote him unless something the replacements say change my mind.
Yeah, theres the lying to get an innocent lynched thing, on top of the whole infiltrating the mafia when we know through Dizzy the infiltrator is cult.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Fri May 09, 2008 9:39 am

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Thesp replaces roffman.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Fri May 09, 2008 10:15 am

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Just checking in. I haven't read the thread yet, but I did a quick read-through of my predecessor's posts, and I indeed confirm that being a Miller is part of my role. I will read the rest of the game to see what more (if anything) I should divulge. Who should I vote for?
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Fri May 09, 2008 10:33 am

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Vote for roffman.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Fri May 09, 2008 10:37 am

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DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:Vote for roffman.
I get the impression that doing so would be a bad idea.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Fri May 09, 2008 10:39 am

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Then you are opposing a scum lynch.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2008 4:48 am

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Yup... roffman, I demand a full role spill, including your cloak color (unless you are colorblind as well, in which case I ask that you inquire the mod), as well as a paraphrase of
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2008 5:33 am

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Uh... 'Kirby? Roffman is gone. Thesp is his replacement, though really, Thesp should still vote for Roffman. :p
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2008 12:02 pm

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Oh, sorry... replace "roffman" with "Thesp, roffman's replacement"
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2008 7:48 pm

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Hmmm, forgot the miller part of the claim.

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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:15 am

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Frick, I haven't had time to read the thread and got distracted this weekend. The better play is probably for me to read through, see what I ought to reveal and ought not, and go from there, but in view of a deadline, I don't know that we can afford the time.

I'm Gamoz, and I happen to be a thief. I am a miller and will be viewed as bad by investigators, but I'm really all for democracy. I may or may not have other abilities, if I have used any, they have no worthwhile information to reveal at this point. I suspect the reason my predecessor was concerned about cloak colors was because he surmised he was a miller (and appeared as scum to investigators), then scum would share similar appearance. I will not comment on specifics of my predecessors claim to be able to steal weapons - let it suffice to say that if I had useful result, I would share it in a heartbeat.

I will try to get a re-read done within 24 hours, please don't shoot me if I haven't yet. ;) I find it shameful that my predecessor has not made substantive thought processes on who's scum and who's not - rest assured you'll not see the same from me.

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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 5:27 am

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Thesp wrote:I'm Gamoz, and I happen to be a thief. I am a miller and will be viewed as bad by investigators, but I'm really all for democracy. I may or may not have other abilities, if I have used any, they have no worthwhile information to reveal at this point.
I suspect the reason my predecessor was concerned about cloak colors was because he surmised he was a miller (and appeared as scum to investigators), then scum would share similar appearance.
I will not comment on specifics of my predecessors claim to be able to steal weapons - let it suffice to say that if I had useful result, I would share it in a heartbeat.
roffman wrote:Basically, i'm only revealing this information to get the game going:

I've infiltrated the scum group, wearing a cloak of friendship.
That line has lead me to believe that either capricous or ration are scum, based entirely on cloak color.
These quotes do not compute. I am thus happy with a Thesp/Roffmanscum lynch.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 5:46 am

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DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
Thesp wrote:I'm Gamoz, and I happen to be a thief. I am a miller and will be viewed as bad by investigators, but I'm really all for democracy. I may or may not have other abilities, if I have used any, they have no worthwhile information to reveal at this point.
I suspect the reason my predecessor was concerned about cloak colors was because he surmised he was a miller (and appeared as scum to investigators), then scum would share similar appearance.
I will not comment on specifics of my predecessors claim to be able to steal weapons - let it suffice to say that if I had useful result, I would share it in a heartbeat.
roffman wrote:Basically, i'm only revealing this information to get the game going:

I've infiltrated the scum group, wearing a cloak of friendship.
That line has lead me to believe that either capricous or ration are scum, based entirely on cloak color.
These quotes do not compute. I am thus happy with a Thesp/Roffmanscum lynch.
I agree that his earlier statement conflicts with mine. I don't know why he said that when true statements would be much more compelling - it's
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 8:52 am

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Thesp - Speaking of cloaks, what color is yours?

I have already said that I'm not pleased with Serous, either, and might consider lynching him.

While the new claim certainly doesn't match with the old one, (and the miller claim is distressing), I'm not 100% sure I want to kill Thesp just for a dumb mistake of his predecessor. However, the claims mismatch so much I'm definetely considering a lynch. I believe I'm going to have to think about this a little.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 9:07 am

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It's a dark-blue/black cloak (? - looks more like a pawn) with a cyan (?) swirl - the background behind my pawn/cloak is varying shades of purple and blue. Does that help?
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 3:25 pm

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That also doesn't match with his claims of "light purple" and "indigo" cloak colours. I'm afraid you appear to be on a loser now, Thesp.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 5:29 pm

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DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:That also doesn't match with his claims of "light purple" and "indigo" cloak colours. I'm afraid you appear to be on a loser now, Thesp.
Just a quick post here - I'm tired and it's been a long night.

First off, I know some of what I've claimed doesn't match with the crap that my predecessor made up. I'm trying to fix it as best I can so that should I die, you've at least got the best info possible to go on.

Second, I'm a little uncertain as to what's the cloak - is it the color of my pawn? If so, it's a dark-blue/black (it looked blackish blue on my monitor at work, but looks dark dark blue on my brighter LCD at home here - heck at work I couldn't see the little earpiece (?) that I can see at my home computer). The background of my picture is a purplish-bluish mix. Maybe he said "light purple" because it appeared to register some red on his program thingamajig he used to detect color, as he was
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Third, IF I WAS TERRIBLY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A CONSISTENT STORY WHY IN THE FRICKING HECK WOULDN'T I METICULOUSLY COPY WHATEVER ROFFMAN SAID AND REPEAT IT VERBATIM? Seriously, if you're going to lynch me because you think roffman lied, that's one thing, if you're gonig to lynch me because you think I'm lying that's another. I want to know which it's for.

I'm sorry I haven't finished my read-through, and it's likely to be Wednesday before I do. In the meantime, for those of you who haven't answered this:
Thesp wrote:Also, I see three people screaming for my head right now - who else do you think is scum? Why? (I suspect you may already have posted why you think I'm scum, which I'll come to soon.)
Could you please answer this? (YES I'M LOOKING AT YOU DIZZYIZZYB13.) I don't want you getting off the hook easily. I know I'm an easy, excusable lynch, and I don't want this day devoid of information. After all, if I get lynched, everyone can easily say, "Well heck, Lynch All Liars, who could have known? Don't blame me." Then we don't have this day of comments to work from. We're sure as heck not going back to the drawing board tomorrow.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 1:50 am

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DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:That also doesn't match with his claims of "light purple" and "indigo" cloak colours. I'm afraid you appear to be on a loser now, Thesp.
Just a quick post here - I'm tired and it's been a long night.

First off, I know some of what I've claimed doesn't match with the crap that my predecessor made up. I'm trying to fix it as best I can so that should I die, you've at least got the best info possible to go on.
Of course, the alternative explanation is that roffman's claims got him into trouble and you're trying to worm out of it with the "my predecessor was incompetent approach".
Thesp wrote:Second, I'm a little uncertain as to what's the cloak - is it the color of my pawn? If so, it's a dark-blue/black (it looked blackish blue on my monitor at work, but looks dark dark blue on my brighter LCD at home here - heck at work I couldn't see the little earpiece (?) that I can see at my home computer). The background of my picture is a purplish-bluish mix. Maybe he said "light purple" because it appeared to register some red on his program thingamajig he used to detect color, as he was
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I don't know what your image looks like, but mine looks vaguely like a Jawa with a scarf. Sort of like this:

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The cloak would be what the guy is wearing. Also, if you read the thread, he was quite confident (eventually) that his cloak was the same colour as those that were described by the mod as Indigo. Perhaps you should consider asking if you're not sure? Regardless, you're wrong, lying or you probably need to fix your monitor settings.
Tesp wrote:Third, IF I WAS TERRIBLY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A CONSISTENT STORY WHY IN THE FRICKING HECK WOULDN'T I METICULOUSLY COPY WHATEVER ROFFMAN SAID AND REPEAT IT VERBATIM? Seriously, if you're going to lynch me because you think roffman lied, that's one thing, if you're gonig to lynch me because you think I'm lying that's another. I want to know which it's for.
Hello there, WIFOM. I think both of you are lying to an extent, though moreso you since roffman's claim of mafia infiltrator came before I'd said anything about knowing a "cult" member is also part of the mafia. Essentially, roffman's claims and corrections have never seemed entirely correct, and you've managed to contradict pretty much everything he's said so that nothing either of you has said is particularly trustworthy.
Thesp wrote:I'm sorry I haven't finished my read-through, and it's likely to be Wednesday before I do. In the meantime, for those of you who haven't answered this:
Thesp wrote:Also, I see three people screaming for my head right now - who else do you think is scum? Why? (I suspect you may already have posted why you think I'm scum, which I'll come to soon.)
Could you please answer this? (YES I'M LOOKING AT YOU DIZZYIZZYB13.) I don't want you getting off the hook easily. I know I'm an easy, excusable lynch, and I don't want this day devoid of information. After all, if I get lynched, everyone can easily say, "Well heck, Lynch All Liars, who could have known? Don't blame me." Then we don't have this day of comments to work from. We're sure as heck not going back to the drawing board tomorrow.
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I haven't got a clue. In case you haven't noticed, most people appear to be trying to lurk to victory and not enough people are participating to even get roffman lynched. There's not enough to go on from most people. I'd guess that Serrous is scum of one kind or another, and *maybe* one of Armlx or windkirby given that I don't think the entire scum team would just, y'know, stay silent. Beyond that? No clue.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 1:52 am

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DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
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DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:That also doesn't match with his claims of "light purple" and "indigo" cloak colours. I'm afraid you appear to be on a loser now, Thesp.
Just a quick post here - I'm tired and it's been a long night.

First off, I know some of what I've claimed doesn't match with the crap that my predecessor made up. I'm trying to fix it as best I can so that should I die, you've at least got the best info possible to go on.
Of course, the alternative explanation is that roffman's claims got him into trouble and you're trying to worm out of it with the "my predecessor was incompetent approach".
Thesp wrote:Second, I'm a little uncertain as to what's the cloak - is it the color of my pawn? If so, it's a dark-blue/black (it looked blackish blue on my monitor at work, but looks dark dark blue on my brighter LCD at home here - heck at work I couldn't see the little earpiece (?) that I can see at my home computer). The background of my picture is a purplish-bluish mix. Maybe he said "light purple" because it appeared to register some red on his program thingamajig he used to detect color, as he was
colorblind
. Note that he refers to purple/indigo cloaks the whole time, which may reflect that to his program more of the blue spectrum showed up than the red. Heck if I know.
I don't know what your image looks like, but mine looks vaguely like a Jawa with a scarf. Sort of like this:

Image

The cloak would be what the guy is wearing. Also, if you read the thread, he was quite confident (eventually) that his cloak was the same colour as those that were described by the mod as Indigo. Perhaps you should consider asking if you're not sure? Regardless, you're wrong, lying or you probably need to fix your monitor settings.
Thesp wrote:Third, IF I WAS TERRIBLY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A CONSISTENT STORY WHY IN THE FRICKING HECK WOULDN'T I METICULOUSLY COPY WHATEVER ROFFMAN SAID AND REPEAT IT VERBATIM? Seriously, if you're going to lynch me because you think roffman lied, that's one thing, if you're gonig to lynch me because you think I'm lying that's another. I want to know which it's for.
Hello there, WIFOM. I think both of you are lying to an extent, though moreso you since roffman's claim of mafia infiltrator came before I'd said anything about knowing a "cult" member is also part of the mafia. Essentially, roffman's claims and corrections have never seemed entirely correct, and you've managed to contradict pretty much everything he's said so that nothing either of you has said is particularly trustworthy.
Thesp wrote:I'm sorry I haven't finished my read-through, and it's likely to be Wednesday before I do. In the meantime, for those of you who haven't answered this:
Thesp wrote:Also, I see three people screaming for my head right now - who else do you think is scum? Why? (I suspect you may already have posted why you think I'm scum, which I'll come to soon.)
Could you please answer this? (YES I'M LOOKING AT YOU DIZZYIZZYB13.) I don't want you getting off the hook easily. I know I'm an easy, excusable lynch, and I don't want this day devoid of information. After all, if I get lynched, everyone can easily say, "Well heck, Lynch All Liars, who could have known? Don't blame me." Then we don't have this day of comments to work from. We're sure as heck not going back to the drawing board tomorrow.
I haven't got a clue. In case you haven't noticed, most people appear to be trying to lurk to victory and not enough people are participating to even get roffman lynched. There's not enough to go on from most people. I'd guess that Serrous is scum of one kind or another, and *maybe* one of Armlx or windkirby given that I don't think the entire scum team would just, y'know, stay silent. Beyond that? No clue.
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DizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
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ChannelDelibird: ;_;
DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
ChannelDelibird: Well, at least that's the first time a girl has told me "it's not short enough"
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 6:03 am

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windkirby wrote:Hmm... after another reread, I'm pretty freakin' suspicious of roffman once again.

The scum possibility:
He's scum and figures that there are some pretty bizarre roles in the game.
Then, he decides to claim something unusual because it's something scum would not typically do. However, he doesn't really know what his role is; he hasn't decided this yet. So therefore, he just drops a few hints about having a special role before really landing on what it does, ending with him claiming a very odd role indeed.
The town possibility:
He's not lying... He is a "mafia spy," except he has no idea who they are; instead, his role PM told him that he shares cloak colors with the mafia, which is actually pretty useless information now that it seems that they've lied about their colors. His night power is to target a player and block them if they have a weapon kill role. He is colorblind, and his program made him think his cloak was light purple when it was actually indigo... except this wouldn't make sense because it's been proved that Capricious, who claimed to have an indigo cloak, is, in fact, town. So the only other possibility is that the mafia all lied about their cloak colors, except that Ration and Tyfo, apparently mafia in this scenario, would then not have any motivation to both choose the same color as Cap. Ration claimed before Cap, so perhaps he was not anticipating a similar color claim, and perhaps Tyfo was only too lazy to check the previous color claims... but then, that would be a ridiculously stupid move, and so I deem this scenario unlikely.

Ration and Tyfo, I would like you to both ask the mod what your cloak colors are.

We'll see where we go from there, but as of now, I think roffman is lying about his role.
Sorry for my late answer.

In post 100 I say this: "Mine is purple too.". So yes, I checked the previous claims, and yes I found it weird that other people had similar colours, but I decided to be truthful and give the information anyway.

I asked the mod about my cloak colour back in february, it's "Purple", nothing fancy.
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