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Left mastina's hydra out because I need to check her some other way to townread her or not.

alright, thanks

CREATURE IS SCUM SHEEP ME

hi wheme

do you always scream so much?

In post 360, Shoshin wrote:

In post 354, the worst wrote:

In post 353, Shoshin wrote:

In post 351, the worst wrote:

In post 350, Shoshin wrote:VOTE: the worst for an answer on why Sajj is town.

sweaty get off your high horse and go find actual scum

If you helped me out, then maybe I wouldn't vote you. But if you're going to obscure your alignment, then I'm going to assume it's because you're scum.

every other post in my ISO is transparent and conspicuously town motivated. if you get a stick up your ass abt one post which is VERY OBVIOUSLY hinting that I'm planning something with obscuring my read then I can only assume you're scum using an insanely stupid tunnel as a smokescreen.

I disagree. I still have no clue why you read Reality as "badtown" rather than "scum," and you've cluttered the game with tons of pointless posts. I liked your vote on Wheme and that was about it. I've seen scum do exactly what you've done in this game multiple times (including the whole "I'm not going to explain my reads yet because I have plans"), so if that's how you're going to play, I'm going to vote you until I have strong reason to believe you're town. I was hoping your explanation on Sajj would help me read you and her better... but I guess you don't want that?

umm i don't get how exactly knowing why worst is tring me connects to sorting both of us.

why do you think we share alignment?

o, btw wheme modded my first game but i don't think it means much

In post 365, Shoshin wrote:

In post 356, Vartsun wrote:Shoshin, why is Sajj scum to you, again? And if you think the worst is scum off of townreading Sajj, then why are you dropping your attention off of her in pursuit of him?

Sajj hasn't taken any sort of meaningful position about anyone. Look at 317, for example. Or look at how quickly her push on me evaporated - she had a tone of conviction when pushing but in reality there wasn't anything to it.

I'm voting the worst because he's making it more difficult for me to read him and Sajj by refusing to answer my question, plus his "badtown" read on Reality doesn't make any sense.

um, in 317 i have committed to townreading PoR strongly enough that i won't vote her d1. thought it was pretty clear since it was an answer to vartsun's question. do you have better examples?

i have explained why i didn't actually push you hard, did you miss that post? quote to me that tone of conviction posts, please.

and the most important - explain why all of this is scum indicative.

In post 368, Shoshin wrote:I wonder what would have happened if I had refused to answer why I townread TPFKAP... bet the worst would have voted me for it...

assuming he would do that, what would it mean to you?

i feel p good about worst for that convo with reality

got tired on page 18
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welcome randomidget!

Creature

Did you townread my posts or mastina's posts?

In post 503, Scioness Sajj wrote:hi wheme

do you always scream so much?

Apparently. He also doesn't answer questions put his way.

In post 510, Reality Check wrote:Creature

Did you townread my posts or mastina's posts?

Just assumed your hydra was a single player.

Pretty disconnected from the game tbh, a lot of it seems like NAI squabbling and general whining. Nothing really jumps out to me as massively ProScum because the entire thread is garbage fighting or garbage posting for some reason. RC and the worst both gut Town. Wheme's play seems low effort town to me rather than scummy. Just finished a game with ScumSho, and her tone early on was pretty similar, but has evolved in a more genuinely inquisitive Town way, so I don't endorse that wagon anymore.

Down to policy lynch any of the players who don't really want to be useful, TPFKAP/Renais/Nico all fit into this category. I think the fact that the thread hasn't come down on this shit way harder is indicative of at least one Scum in that group because they're all easy mislynch bait/vote park targets if they're town. I am aware of the irony in saying that while pushing them and vote-parking Renais, but the fact that there aren't more people on those three feels weird to me.

In post 511, joral wrote:

In post 503, Scioness Sajj wrote:hi wheme

do you always scream so much?

Apparently. He also doesn't answer questions put his way.

Nope

dammit dude i literally just advocated for lynching useless players and put you on my town list

dont make me reconsider the second for the first

In post 513, TehBrawlGuy wrote:Down to policy lynch any of the players who don't really want to be useful, TPFKAP/Renais/Nico all fit into this category. I think the fact that the thread hasn't come down on this shit way harder is indicative of at least one Scum in that group because they're all easy mislynch bait/vote park targets if they're town. I am aware of the irony in saying that while pushing them and vote-parking Renais, but the fact that there aren't more people on those three feels weird to me.

In post 131, Vartsun wrote:

VOTE: Tgkfap

serious vote.

In post 137, Vartsun wrote:

tgkfap

has done things that have pinged me as potential scum.

In post 131, Vartsun wrote:In post 47, TPFKAP wrote:
I'm not sure.


>fluffpost
>page 2 and still has RVS vote up on Joral
>45 states something is scummy but doesn't provide a reason or switch vote, disingenuous

In post 59, TPFKAP wrote:
I'm in a neeeiiiiighhhhborhood

What town motivation comes from this?

How do you feel about

tgkfap

?

~ Taly

In post 276, Vartsun wrote: Through skimming the thread, I'm unimpressed with

Creature

and

Renais

;

Joral

is currently my strongest townread.

Also

tgkfap

didn't really respond to me, so their readslist better be fucking good.

~ Taly

In post 282, Vartsun wrote:Yeah, I'm not near frustrated enough to go full caps, tbh.

But if you're going to take a shit on me pushing you and write off my posts, answer 2 things:

1)

What is so off about my vote and reason for pushing you, to where you don't see it valid to respond to?

2)

Even if this WAS

Varsoon

, why does that change how you'd respond to it?

~ Taly

In post 287, Vartsun wrote:

In post 286, Reality Check wrote:Hey Taly, where you at? I want to know where your head is roughly.

> tgkfap

looks like an even tastier wagon.

(Weak scumread, but strongest so far)

>

Worried that

Creature

has not displayed what I know of his town-meta.

> Wheme

is antitown, or at least appears that way in light of pushing things without stating too much of why.

(???)

>

Didn't and still don't like

Joral's

wagon and I think he's the most forthcoming person in the game; well-reasoned thoughts, does not hold back on his thinking, and with this combined that I'm voting someone that has their vote on him - unless I missed something - I'm really happy with saying this is town.

(Strong Town)

> Renai

is openly useless.

(Null, leanscum)

>

Who are

riku

and

shoshin

again?

>

Going to take a bit before I settle on

the worst

, but I get townvibes there because of their train-of-consciousness posts that have interest in progressing the game in favor of gamesolving.

(Town)

These are the biggest things coming to mind at the moment for thoughts.

You feel genuine.

~ Taly

In post 312, Vartsun wrote:

In post 302, TPFKAP wrote:Look I don't have a lot of time or energy so I'm going to pick a middle-aged page and give reads based on that

Fluff

In post 307, TPFKAP wrote:I don't know what happened to my post that I wrote OVER an HOUR ago but SHO is scummy and Princess is scummy on page 9. everyone oelse on that page is likely town.

>

Seems a little faked readslist. You state your post is gone but you wrote it an HOUR ago?

>

You didn't do this 'actually grand readslist', you just stated random and somewhat-relevant thoughts about page 9.

>

There were 6 other people on page 9.

{TehBrawlGuy, Creature, Princess of Renais, Joral, the worst, Reality Check}

- and you townread ALL of them, because?

In post 310, Princess of Renais wrote:

In post 308, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Does Princess post anything other than illegible fuff?

ye
Ilegibl 2 reds

VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP
VOTE: Princess of Renais
VOTE: TGKFAP

:/ It's getting hard to choose at the moment. I'm completely happy with the

Renais

wagon given their... shitposting even for shitposting.

If people see validity in the

tgkfap

wagon - or see them as potential scum, where's their vote?

I feel a little brushed to the side...

~ Taly

In post 313, Vartsun wrote:Better question

Who sees town within

{tgkfap, Renais, Creature}

?

~ Taly

In post 314, Vartsun wrote:

In post 313, Vartsun wrote:Better question

Who sees town within

{tgkfap, Renais, Creature}

?

~ Taly

Add

Nico

to this group.

~ Taly

In post 322, Vartsun wrote:VOTE: TGKFAP just so the mod is aware.

Yeah.

This is getting close to a death tunnel.

~ Taly

In post 324, Vartsun wrote:

In post 316, the worst wrote:nico 1% higher because I think she fakes it a little more as scum

Can't go off that too much yet. :/ *shrugs*

In post 317, Scioness Sajj wrote:

In post 313, Vartsun wrote:Better question

Who sees town within

{tgkfap, Renais, Creature}

?

~ Taly

i don't really get scum vibes from Renais. besides the excessive flavor and fluff they seem more engaged in the game than half of the players.

creature and tgkfap are meh

i assume nico and riku will be replaced if they keep up their pace

I mean, I think

Renais'

fluffposting is a great excuse to be engaged without doing anything, therefore, being filler and downplaying themselves.

Have you played at least 2 games with

Creature

?

And you have no opinion of

tgkfap

?

In post 318, Shoshin wrote:VOTE: Sajj

...I can't follow your thought process too well with some of these votes.

~ Taly

In post 356, Vartsun wrote:I'm going to pretend the last half page of posts don't exist so I won't deeply question and criticize the mafia ability of some players in this game.

tgkfap

is borderline scumclaiming with how poor their posts have been, and LITERALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS

VARSOON

WHEN I'VE DONE ALL THE POSTING.

Really doubting that this is

Creature's

towngame. His only gamesolving-centered post so far has been 334 and it literally comes to no conclusion at all.

Oh look,

Renais

finally made commentary. 338, why is

Creature and tgkfap

town to you?

~ Taly

In post 467, Creature wrote:Game's inactive, I get the blame.

Got it

You think a game that's been going on for less than a week and has 21 pages is inactive?

Funny.

But it's great to know that you'd rather paint yourself as "being prosecuted wrongly" alongside that "why me" undertones in your post - than ACTUALLY addressing the points onto you.

In post 468, Creature wrote:

In post 462, Vartsun wrote:

In post 334, Creature wrote:Help me strike people out of this list, I'll start:

The Worst

Nancy Drew 39
Scioness Sajj
Vartsun (Varsoon/Taly)
TehBrawlGuy
Reality Check (Ank/Mastina)
Shoshin
NicoRobin
Riku
TPFKAP
Princess of Renais

Creature

WhemeStar
ArcAngel9
Joral

On skimming back, this strengthens my thoughts on

the worst

being town, btw.

If

Creature's

town, he'd have far more people crossed out, or would be putting an effort into figuring them out - so his

the worst

read would be genuine.
If

Creature's

scum, then why would he only strike off ONE person out of the playerlist? If it were a buddy, it'd be a very blatant associative; but I don't think that's really true because it puts attention to his scumteam, and because he's not striking off any other townies or buddies;

the worst

is obvtown to me, and I think the lack of clarity in this post serves as WIFOM post-flip.

The singular read is disingenuous.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

~ Taly

Wanted to strike out more players, but then I got stuck into this "should I trust or should I not?"

So.... with 500 something posts, you only have 1 read; and managed to WIFOM essentially everyone in the playerlist.

OK.



I'll explain how this is scum-meta tomorrow, it's late for me.

But honestly, is scum based off of in-game play alone at this point.

TehBrawlGuy wrote:but the fact that there aren't more people on those three feels weird to me.

oh wait, misread this.

Thought you meant NOBODY was on either of those people... because it feels exactly like that, alongside myself and your vote.

What's your take on ?

What's your take on nd39 Taly?

In post 513, TehBrawlGuy wrote:TPFKAP/Renais/Nico

i am the most queen out of dem

In post 519, the worst wrote:What's your take on nd39 Taly?

Mmmm... Town lean post-ISO skim.

They are consistently voicing their stances, opinions, and thoughts. 241, 308

They've engaged 1 on 1 with several people right now, some with questions.

I don't agree with them townreading my strongest scumreads, ; but I don't find scum motivation behind that?

471 is towny to me because she's voicing a new opinion with her own reasoning, it strikes me as genuine.

However, they haven't voted yet, and I don't know where their heads at for scum.

What do you think of them?

, could you explain your read? You haven't used your vote at all in the game, do you have any read worthy of pushing?

In post 516, Vartsun wrote:

In post 513, TehBrawlGuy wrote:Down to policy lynch any of the players who don't really want to be useful, TPFKAP/Renais/Nico all fit into this category. I think the fact that the thread hasn't come down on this shit way harder is indicative of at least one Scum in that group because they're all easy mislynch bait/vote park targets if they're town. I am aware of the irony in saying that while pushing them and vote-parking Renais, but the fact that there aren't more people on those three feels weird to me.

Have you even read my posts?

~ Taly

yes

also you're not a web designer from 1997, you don't need to use obnoxious text to get my attention

In post 518, Vartsun wrote:

TehBrawlGuy wrote:but the fact that there aren't more people on those three feels weird to me.

oh wait, misread this.

Thought you meant NOBODY was on either of those people... because it feels exactly like that, alongside myself and your vote.

What's your take on

Creature

?

~ Taly

lmao the irony of this right after you bigtext me asking if I've read your posts

10/10

didn't think much until I was asked this, then went to his iso - seems active lurky and the kind of thing I'd usually push on if I didn't have other priorities w/r/t PLing players. I'm OK with him getting a wagon, but I think wagoning the dead weight and killing them/forcing people to sort them is more useful long-term.