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^^^^^^ yes!!

Okay, but was it really that much of an overreaction? A page 20 RVS is far from the worst reason to vote for alone.

wow, the exact time I didn't need a pagetop...

hi ruby, don't think I've seen you around before

In post 492, Ruby Red wrote:ok honestly what the hell

i was entirely convinced i was replacing into a scumslot but now like... i have to put effort into this game

I used to know whose alt this was, but damn .. my memory has more bad sectors than I thought.

Welcome anyway.

ive tried to read this game like 4 times and honestly i just dont think its ever happening

In post 489, Lady Angel wrote: It wasn't on this site, and several years old. I'm not gonna be able to find them.

what else did you ask me?

There's two main things concerning me right now:

1)Explain what you meant by Elsa "sheeping on Creature with a misunderstanding of time" and how you thought that was scummy.

2)Explain how you went from initially liking the case on Creature to now scum-reading Elsa for her push on Creature.

In post 499, Purrcocet wrote: Elsa is scummier than LA
That first point isn't really AI

How is Elsa scummier than LA? And if you think Elsa is scummier than LA then why aren't you voting for Elsa right now?

Sup ****

In post 393, AnonymousGhost wrote:

Vote Count 1.10

MariaR:
Almost50: Purrcocet, MariaR
Dunnstral: Kokichi Oma, ManateeDude
Kokichi Oma:
Elsa Jay: Nosferatu
Lady Angel: Almost50
Joey_:
Creature: Carcalilly
Purrcocet:
Carcalilly:
Nosferatu:
Chara:
Snowman:
ManateeDude: Snowman, Dunnstral

Not Voting: Joey_, Creature, Lady Angel, Chara, Elsa Jay

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

(expired on 2018-11-12 18:38:36) :!:

In post 450, AnonymousGhost wrote:

Vote Count 1.11

MariaR:
Almost50: Purrcocet, MariaR
Dunnstral: ManateeDude, Almost50
Kokichi Oma:
Elsa Jay: Nosferatu, Lady Angel, Carcalilly
Lady Angel: Snowman, Chara, Kokichi Oma, Elsa Jay
Joey_:
Creature:
Purrcocet:
Carcalilly:
Nosferatu:
Chara:
Snowman:
ManateeDude: Dunnstral

Not Voting: Creature, Joey_

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

(expired on 2018-11-12 18:38:36) :!:

In post 495, AnonymousGhost wrote:

Vote Count 1.12

MariaR:
Almost50: Purrcocet, MariaR
Dunnstral:
Kokichi Oma:
Elsa Jay: Nosferatu, Lady Angel, Carcalilly, ManateeDude
Lady Angel: Snowman, Chara, Kokichi Oma, Elsa Jay, Almost50
Joey_:
Ruby Red:
Purrcocet:
Carcalilly:
Nosferatu:
Chara:
Snowman:
ManateeDude: Dunnstral

Not Voting: Ruby Red, Joey_

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

(expired on 2018-11-13 18:38:36) :!:

Look at when the votes are on me and where they move to - will probably be important later

Hey, ManateeDudge/Almost50/Kokichi, why are Elsa Jay/Lady Angel better lynches than me from your perspective?

In post 511, Dunnstral wrote:Hey, ManateeDudge/Almost50/Kokichi, why are Elsa Jay/Lady Angel better lynches than me from your perspective?

Lady's better than you, but you are better than Elsa from my PoV. It's all about gut, which is all we have so far. Just how I am perceiving everyone so far.

In post 500, Carcalilly wrote: Okay, but was it really that much of an overreaction? A page 20 RVS is far from the worst reason to vote for alone.

*Page 17. And yes it was pretty bad. There's no obvious scum motive for voting based on a dice roll, and there's a good chance Elsa wasn't even that serious about it. It only seems scummy on the surface level because "look she's voting someone for no reason, look how scummy that is!", but really Lady shouldn't be jumping to the conclusion that's it's obviously scummy so soon, especially since she's apparently not as new as I thought she was given her last post. And it's especially bad given that before her vote she was pretty much just prod dodging and not contributing much at all.

Also hiya new replacements!

In post 508, Snowman wrote:

In post 499, Purrcocet wrote: Elsa is scummier than LA
That first point isn't really AI

How is Elsa scummier than LA? And if you think Elsa is scummier than LA then why aren't you voting for Elsa right now?

What has LA done that is scummy besides not react the way you sare sshe should have? And the thing about her not linking her games was pretty flimsy for you to bring up.


VOTE: Performer

Hi purrf. ^_^

Saying


Because I don't like the Elsa wagon for today

In post 515, Purrcocet wrote:

In post 508, Snowman wrote:

In post 499, Purrcocet wrote: Elsa is scummier than LA
That first point isn't really AI

How is Elsa scummier than LA? And if you think Elsa is scummier than LA then why aren't you voting for Elsa right now?

What has LA done that is scummy besides not react the way you sare sshe should have?

-general lack of activity
-post #151, somewhat for the "don't trust my reads" comment but mostly b/c of the disconnect between her liking the case on Creature yet not voting because "flucuating reason isn't a great reason to me"... which was essentially the case on Creature.
-post #274, for complaining about a prod dodger while prod dodging herself
-post #476 is a bit weird too actually. Sure Elsa isn't the leading wagon but she is a trendy counter-wagon. Does this imply scum always has to vote the biggest wagon or something?
-also a few other things I won't mention again because you can literally just look at the last handful of posts I've made.

In hindsight it isn't much but that's mostly because of my first point. The point is there's hardly anything in her ISO I'd call towny at all, especially in comparison to the more scummier things she's done. Also, saying that I think she's scummy because she "didn't react the way I thought you should have" (which is what I assume you must've meant through your garbled text) is pretty disingenuous, especially since I've already pointed out things I didn't like from her numerous times through my ISO. Did you just not bother to read or something?

In post 515, Purrcocet wrote: And the thing about her not linking her games was pretty flimsy for you to bring up.

How so? I wanted to see if the games she's talking about would've put her Elsa vote in better context. And it's not her not linking my games that bothered me -- it was more her ignoring my questions overall.

In post 516, Purrcocet wrote: Because I don't like the Elsa wagon for today

Why not? I mean, you think she's scummy, so what's this aversion to "not liking the Elsa wagon" you have?

In post 508, Snowman wrote: How is Elsa scummier than LA?

I'd like an answer to this too, please.

In post 518, Snowman wrote:

In post 516, Purrcocet wrote: Because I don't like the Elsa wagon for today

Why not? I mean, you think she's scummy, so what's this aversion to the Elsa wagon you have?

EBWOP. Thought the original wording was kind of clunky.

I've taken it as you scumreading some stuff that isn't AI and scum reading things that should be town pings (like 274) if you really want me to be honest

Snowman wrote:

In post 516, Purrcocet wrote: Because I don't like the Elsa wagon for today

Why not? I mean, you think she's scummy, so what's this aversion to "not liking the Elsa wagon" you have?

Elsa's play seems designed to draw votes and I took that to possibly mean a couple different things.
Which is why I'm sort of interested in how he's your strongest town read to the point you're almost white knighting
You made a post or two on the subject but i don't get how your read is that strong still


I think we should run nos Slot up cause I haven't got a town ping from him throughout this game and I think i read him so well that he is almost me. So that is why my vote is here

In post 520, Purrcocet wrote: Elsa's play seems designed to draw votes and I took that to possibly mean a couple different things.
Which is why I'm sort of interested in how he's your strongest town read to the point you're almost white knighting
You made a post or two on the subject but i don't get how your read is that strong still

First off, I never said Elsa was my strongest town read. The most I've said was that I tr-ed her overall. I thought she was pretty town ever since the Creature push since I thought it was justified by her misconception of the deadline. It did actually wane down a bit since I didn't like how insistent she was on not providing content at all, but her first reads-list did reassure me a bit. I'm not trying to white knight -- and I'm probably going to end up reassessing my read on her D2 when her main strategy purportedly kicks on -- but I have no idea why people are pushing Elsa's lynch so hard, especially in comparison to Lady Angel. I'm trying to find what's overtly scum-AI about Elsa's posting, but the only thing I get is that she's playing "too scummy to be scum", which is meh. At best I can see her being a null read to some players, but outright scum reading her feels like a stretch to me.

In post 520, Purrcocet wrote: I think we should run nos Slot up cause I haven't got a town ping from him throughout this game and I think i read him so well that he is almost me. So that is why my vote is here

I don't see how you got anything AI from Nos's play.

In post 508, Snowman wrote: How is Elsa scummier than LA?

@Purr, you've never given a clear answer to this.

A redact calling him a horrible snowman. He is a good snowman.

In post 507, Snowman wrote:

In post 489, Lady Angel wrote: It wasn't on this site, and several years old. I'm not gonna be able to find them.

what else did you ask me?

There's two main things concerning me right now:

1)Explain what you meant by Elsa "sheeping on Creature with a misunderstanding of time" and how you thought that was scummy.

2)Explain how you went from initially liking the case on Creature to now scum-reading Elsa for her push on Creature.

1) Elsa wagoned Creature because she thought there was 20 hours in the day, so she jumped on it. Scum in general is more likely to wagon if it's near the end of the day to swing a mislynch, and Elsa hopping on thinking it was less than a day to go fits that.

2) I stopped liking the case on Creature once he posted, and as I said up there Elsa's push felt scummy to me.