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My meta trajectory on you and the fact I'm kinda bored by being suspicious of you is probably pretty clear

Noir I correctly townread you as trolly lynchbait
Jungle republic I can't remember how I read you but I don't think I townread you
Vig/vanilla I think I flip flopped pretty hard on you before realising you were scum?

Isn't that one newbie game the only time I've been paranoid of you? that was pretty soon after vig/vanilla and I had a different impression of the trajectory of your wolfgame; it was unjustified suspicion and I think the towntelling you did there is a more fair metric to read you against (=> I thought your scumgame was stronger than it is)

Why would you expect me to be paranoid of you as a default? I'm more mellow on you atm.

I think it's unconcious BoP because you had more *expectations* about a possible town!NSG and although you would find bad if someone else did that read, you would find way less bad if it wasn't specifically someone that you think has a good town game doing that.

About what I specifically see as towny idk if I should talk right now, let me reflect a bit

that newbie game was kind of a lesson to me too (it's ok to go for nullscummy slots rather than assuming everyone is GOD SCUM I MUST SLAY)

In post 501, Nibbui wrote:I think it's unconcious BoP because you had more *expectations* about a possible town!NSG and although you would find bad if someone else did that read, you would find way less bad if it wasn't specifically someone that you think has a good town game doing that.

About what I specifically see as towny idk if I should talk right now, let me reflect a bit

ok I'm going to holistically ignore you disagreeing with my read for now and keep working on other stuff swing back to me on this later.

No.

You were paranoid of me in coalition 803 as well and it wasn't only because I repped on a scummy slot, you had some problems with the way I was acting around your slot as well

Also most of our marathon games are like that if I remember right, you're always a bit afraid to leave me on a static read and cares a lot about how I read you (when you're town).

I don't think you have real logical reasons to be paranoid of me, actually you never had in all of those games, my past scum game wasn't good because I was too stiff and was very conscious of the fact I'm scum.

But it's the fact that you are being reasonable here that makes me worry, because you're more reasonable about me as scum.

Actually screw this, I don't know if it's a good thing and I may be being impatient here but I'll explain my read on NSG

stay online if it's possible and let's talk about it

good point, I forgot about coalition for some reason.

still, I wouldn't say paranoia of you is a very reliable towntell for me/vice versa.

but yeah hmu. I'll be back and forth; I'm at work

My most reasonable about you was probably back in Noir I think lmao

so this is one of the most AI posts in her ISO (in my opinion at least)

In post 93, northsidegal wrote:word choice / toneread

i know normally i might get annoyed at this kind of reasoning if it was used against myself but even still i couldn't help but notice it: you used the word "hmmm" three times in your first three posts (with two in the third), and seven times so far in your 33 post ISO

obviously the word "hmmm" on its own isn't scum indicative (.... i think), but i think that kind of verbal tic is something worth looking at, especially in comparison to your other games.

again, i kind of hate this reasoning when it's used against me so sorry about that, but i can't just ignore it.

You guys have been looking down on the fact that she is suspicious about me using a certain word but there might be some meat here (maybe I'm just overthinking though, let's argue).

The first thing is, a word choice read that herself recognizes as kind of silly isn't what I would expect from scum!NSG. It's not deep meta stuff really, but the deal is that I think that scum!NSG tries to look busy and to do that she is very logical and reasonable about her reads. I don't know if it's likely for her to start with such a "wishy-washy" read.

The second thing is, how she is paying attention to my posts.

NSG has a point when she says that my tone is different here, think about coalition 803 and Open 741 that are my most recent games, and now look on me here. It's different. It's not weird that she would get a bit weirded out.

The third things is that although I can't give more details right now, I might have given NSG the idea that I've a "word" that I use more as scum than as town.

Therefore, she paying close attention to me using "hmmm" is positive because I feel that scum!NSG couldn't care less about that. and here she says:

In post 98, northsidegal wrote:

In post 95, Nibbui wrote:I understand where you are coming from but it's a bit weird for you to put priority on that than something else.

it was just something that popped out to me really quickly

and was kind of quick to look at and compare to other games

.

what although is low effort, it's still positive she would check that because again, I don't think scum!NSG goes that far only to justify such a shaky read.

I've been a bit conflicted though because although I find this a very good reason to town lean her, I can't find her towny at face value, in the contrary, I don't like most of her posts at face-value at all.

see I'm cognisant of the fact I find that kind of read busyworky in general so I'm.... not really townreading it a whole lot

not sure what to engage with here sorry

Hmmm

VOTE: unvote

and I did put so much effort on that read...

VOTE: InfiniteSoda

voting lurkers is always fun though

yeeeeet

VOTE: UnendingCoca-Cola

hmmm, I had a realization

maybe podoboq is scum for real

VOTE: podoboq

reason being that everyone else aside from soda and sheep is a bit above him really

I feel as if there's not much AI in his posts and if I need to point something out I would say he's far too trusting on tw here when they have been constantly being tonally weird and making some scummy posts as the one about policy lynching Pink.

@podoboq, didn't you find scummy his policy lynch post? did you find something else suspicious on his ISO?

VOTE: podoboq oh nice

@podoboq imagine there was a player X here that knew you very well. What read do you think he should have on you and why?

im basically caught up

podo's catchup actually feels ok to me it's pretty natural/how i do catchups-type

i feel way way better about tw ty for helping me clear your slot up

whatever nibbui's been doing these last two pages feels textbook twtbw

Gotchu fam

Nibbui started out his career as a troll fwiw

Do you have a problem with me, duck? I feel like the way I'm posting is not how you describe it (you said they are too long, for real? With skitter and Nibbui here? ) and that you've been throwing shade every time you can. Do you want me to react in some sort of way? Do you want to give a bad impression of me because I'm the only one who thinks you're scum?

In post 480, the worst wrote:in a practical sense it's a player I'll consider lynching because I do not townread them and struggle to like get a confident read on them

kinda in the nullscum space, I try not to use it in a more holistic meta sense because imo all players are people too (players who push holistic meta > playing the game are starting to seriously damage my enjoyment of some games)

This definition makes no sense. If you have trouble reading someone, why are they "nullscum" and not just "null"? Do you usually catch scum by lynching the players you can't read? I know you don't.

Is mastina more readable than me at this point? Why "policy lynching" me and not her?

more like they're relatively contentless and loaded with more rhetoric than spicy content. skitter's walls are exceptional and well spoken though long & Nibbui's tonality is conversational and intriguing; you ask a lot of questions I can't really be stuffed responding to and come off quite like argumentative for the sake of it

I couldn't agree less

In post 519, Pink Ball wrote:

In post 480, the worst wrote:in a practical sense it's a player I'll consider lynching because I do not townread them and struggle to like get a confident read on them

kinda in the nullscum space, I try not to use it in a more holistic meta sense because imo all players are people too (players who push holistic meta > playing the game are starting to seriously damage my enjoyment of some games)

This definition makes no sense. If you have trouble reading someone, why are they "nullscum" and not just "null"? Do you usually catch scum by lynching the players you can't read? I know you don't.

Is mastina more readable than me at this point? Why "policy lynching" me and not her?

Because if I have scumreads I won't have nullscum reads

Sometimes, and sometimes I regret not doing it, and sometimes I regret doing it. And?

Yes, at this point I feel more confident about my ability to Stare Into The Void and read mastina than my ability to read you. And?

In post 520, the worst wrote:quite like argumentative

Pink Ball wrote:I couldn't agree less

starting to think Punk Bill might be town
maybe we need to not talk to each other bc I feel like when we do I start scumreading you again?