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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:34 am

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VOTE: Saladman

Let's see how this flips.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:35 am

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That makes sense, but will get in further details tomorrow morning.

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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:36 am

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In post 500, AaronFrost wrote:VOTE: Saladman

Let's see how this flips.
Oh damn, ok.
Welcome to page 21, where a sudden hammer has been dropped.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:39 am

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I’ll answer when I’m by a computer if it’s not locked. But I don’t like how consistently you’re shading me for doing nka. At least There’s a good chance I’ll be clear if it is lockef
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:48 am

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Good night everybody!
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 499, AaronFrost wrote:The fact that teacher pointed it out actually makes me more suspicious of him
I feel like you’ve been shading me without actually pushing all day, and then hammer before I normally get on. Why?
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:20 pm

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In post 490, Yodavader wrote:
In post 489, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 488, Yodavader wrote:I think that the Aaron/Chibiie conflict is more of a town v town situation. I don't think that Chibiie's position change was too unnatural.
If you think chibiie and aaron are both town, do you think Gimm1ck is lying on his tracker claim, otherwise who do you think are the two people in the scum team?
With Gimm1ck's claim, I guess that my scum team would be Salad/teacher. This is all based on what I thought would have happened Night 1. I'm pretty sure that Salad is scum.
I have a bad feeling about this. Will elaborate with the following quotes.
In post 495, Gimm1ck wrote:
In post 494, Chibiie wrote:
In post 492, Gimm1ck wrote:
In post 390, teacher wrote:EBWOP: The reasoning -- avoid protective candidates, and seeing friendly neighbor possible claims -- suggests to me that we are in Row B.
Right now I am actually town reading Teacher a lot less than I have currently. What I am personally feeling is that he has some townie contributions earlier on in the day, but this one comment really puts me off, especially with my claim - especially considering that if scum are in row b, they have a rolecop; they then know they are in b3. This leads me to believe that teacher is either scum or another town power role.

Given the knowledge that I am tracker I am likely going to be night killed (or RBed in the case of row a). Jailkeeper should attempt to play as a roleblocker in this case.
[...]

Where is that B3 coming from? We only have one PR claim and two VT flips...
[...]

Gimm1ck, is either I am stupid and can't read slots properly or you just gave away 2nd PR and scums will try hard to read who's Doc...
[...]
I am speculating given the only
two
plausible setups, which are Row2a, Row1b, row3b. These are my reads given the current situation with teacher.
Here's my point of view on this: In your first post you seem pretty confident on that Row3B "speculation", which is what makes me think either or these: Doc healed you N1 (assuming that your PR claim is real, then of course that you know the current setup) / You're scum and actually the rolecop himself and got a jackpot invest N1. In the second post you say that you're speculating, claim
two
possible setups, but count
three
which I shouldn't even mention because it could've been just a little mistake while posting, but could also be due to little panic. I might just overthink this.
In post 499, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 449, teacher wrote:
[...]

Chibie is kind of sheeting you, my strongest tr, and because I can’t pair saladman otherwise (possibly yoda). I also really don’t like the push on you - could be chainsaw
(I found on Wiki the term "Chainsaw Defense", I believe this is what this term stands for?)
in addition to omgus.

I’m in class but a little around. What didn’t you like?
Also just realized I never answered this.

It was mostly the Chiibie vote I didn't like. If me vs. Chiibie is town vs. town, then this could be an attempt to pocket me and push a mislynch on Chiibie.
(FeelsBadMan my name misspelled)


PEDIT: Yeah but that ended up being false with George flipping vt. The fact that teacher pointed it out actually makes me more suspicious of him.
This actually makes a lot of sense. I didn't want to defend against any votes unless I was put in a L-1 situation, because I wanted to see how many peeps will jump on Aaron's wagon against me and I was actually expecting both Spartan and teacher to hop on, but teacher's jump (I even questioned it twice) felt unnatural and I don't really know how "pocketing" works since I've never used that tactic (I understand the general idea of it, but I mainly try to solo solve game), but I assumed that he was hugging you a little too much and never doubting you at all. AT ALL.
In post 475, Saladman27 wrote:Tbh, I think the real PR isn’t cc’ing because they might get NKed. AFAIK, Gimm1ck has posted nothing hinting at a PR before his claim and IMO the claim was a way to find scum’s next target.
I tend to believe this. Especially now with Gimm1ck's "speculations".
Aaron might leash at me again, but right now, I'm about to change my reads again and call, with ~70% certainty, that Salad will flip green. He doesn't seem to look bothered by this hammer. Inspires to me that he's confident about the win and I don't know, statistically speaking, what are the odds of scums winning if they end up in a 4/1 situation D3, but I doubt scum would not try to defend in this situation or at least fake claim as an attempt at survival.

There are 3 possible scum teams from my point of view: Gimm1ck/Yoda, Yoda/teacher, teacher/Gimm1ck
2 out of these 3 MUST be scum.

Unless Salad flips red and I overthink too much, but these are probably my last reads of the game. Aaron & Spartan MUST be Townies. I just need to sort out who's the last Townie out of the 3 potential scums. (assuming Salad flips green)
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:09 pm

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Official Vote Count 2.05
The thing that makes a great villain is your creeping sense that they're right




LynchingWith 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Saladman27
(4): Gimm1ck, Yodavader, teacher, AaronFrost
<-- LYNCH

Yodavader
(2): Chibiie, Spartan117
Gimm1ck
(1): Saladman27

Not Voting
(0):
None.


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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:15 pm

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Day 2 Lynch - Saladman27



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It is now Night 2. Deadline for night actions is (expired on 2019-10-19 08:15:00)

Everyone has posted in the last 24 hours! We can do short night if all 6 of you PM me saying you want that. If I don't hear from everybody or anybody says no then the night will last two days
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:16 pm

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Night 2 Kill - Spartan117



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It is now Day 3
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:16 pm

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Official Vote Count 3.00
Women aren't better multitaskers than men, they're just doing more work.



LynchingWith 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

Everybody
(0): Nobody

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(5): AaronFrost, Chibiie, Gimm1ck, teacher, Yodavader

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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:47 pm

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Any info Gimm1ck?
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:35 pm

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Teacher targeted Spartan and Chibiie last night. I have no idea why I have been killed; I am currently mobile but this is most definitely to set up a counterclaim to me and attempt to get me lynched here.

Since the only way Teacher can, really, target two people, he is confirmed scum.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:38 pm

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VOTE: teacher
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:39 pm

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I have not been killed*
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:23 am

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This also confirms Chiibiie as town (no reason for teacher to role cop or roleblock their partner).
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:27 am

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Smh my English; clarifying my last sentence in my post before vote - only way teacher can target two people in one night is by being mafia roleblocker or mafia rolecop.

If chibiie isn’t a town power role we can force a confirmed win here by having three confirmed townies (me, Chibiie, other power role) and lynch the other two players (of course, this depends on how power role claims play out).
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:29 am

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Also, if teacher attempts to counterclaim tracker (or another power role) now - he could have counterclaimed me yesterday at any point. As an SE player he would have claimed as it is much better for town to counterclaim a power role pre-lylo if they can (it is most beneficial for town).
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:35 am

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In post 515, Gimm1ck wrote:This also confirms Chiibiie as town (no reason for teacher to role cop or roleblock their partner).
Definitely not roleblocked.

PEDIT: Can you even cc any PR anymore if you visit two players while tracked?

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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:37 am

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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:49 am

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In post 519, teacher wrote:VOTE: teacher
That's self-hammer, does this mean day already ends? o_O
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:51 am

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Also, I'm very sorry for not calling L-1, this is my first game here and actually the first vote I've placed to L-1.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:02 am

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Official Vote Count 3.01




LynchingWith 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

teacher
(3): Gimm1ck, Chibiie, teacher
<-- LYNCH


Not Voting
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:07 am

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Day 3 Lynch - teacher



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It is now Night 3. Deadline for night actions is (expired on 2019-10-21 15:00:00)

AaronFrost has not posted in the last 24 hours and must contact me during the night so I know they're still playing. We can do short night if all 4 of you PM me saying you want that. If I don't hear from everybody or anybody says no then the night will last two days
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:15 pm

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Night 3 Kill - Yodavader



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Everyone agreed to short night! It is now Day 4
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