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In post 472, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 254, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 245, Bitmap wrote:Y'all seriously going to take sheepy mc sheep Alchemist and not push him?

Explain how it’s scummy and maybe they will.

Of course then they’d be sheeping you and you’d have to vote them too.

Yuck
I’d kinda been liking Alchemist up to here but this is twisted

Really? I couldn't tell from your posts so far.

In post 499, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 364, Bitmap wrote:

In post 363, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 361, Bitmap wrote:

In post 358, Evenstar wrote:Hmmmmmmm.

VOTE: Bitmap

Gut feeling something's off here. Circumstantial things so far, but enough that it's worth prodding them.

Gut feeling you should not prod my slot or else we'll have a Magical Girls re-run and yes, this is a crumb.

Explain what you mean by MG rerun, kinda tuned that game out after I died

no

Btw not gonna poke this further rn

... he says, thus poking it.

In post 496, Severa wrote:None of my accounts are particularly representative of my IRL personality; all of them are playing a part.

Yes, and...?

In post 369, Evenstar wrote:

In post 361, Bitmap wrote:

In post 358, Evenstar wrote:Hmmmmmmm.

VOTE: Bitmap

Gut feeling something's off here. Circumstantial things so far, but enough that it's worth prodding them.

Gut feeling you should not prod my slot or else we'll have a Magical Girls re-run and yes, this is a crumb.

ehhh ok.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Why me out of all people? Honestly this wouldn’t bug me except you vote me later but with more explanation that time.

In post 371, TemporalLich wrote:

In post 370, Alchemist21 wrote:A) It’s still an odd comment for an RVS vote.

B) I thought Gamma had been here the whole time and didn’t realize they were catching up.

oh alright...

just means Gamma is NAI-weird and off-meta, not scummy

Why do you say off-meta? We’ve played some but why do you feel like it’s that way? Tbh it feels like you’re trying to disagree without actually going after his reasons.

In post 501, Evenstar wrote:

In post 499, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 364, Bitmap wrote:

In post 363, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 361, Bitmap wrote:

In post 358, Evenstar wrote:Hmmmmmmm.

VOTE: Bitmap

Gut feeling something's off here. Circumstantial things so far, but enough that it's worth prodding them.

Gut feeling you should not prod my slot or else we'll have a Magical Girls re-run and yes, this is a crumb.

Explain what you mean by MG rerun, kinda tuned that game out after I died

no

Btw not gonna poke this further rn

... he says, thus poking it.

Same logic as “not making a choice is itself a choice”, yes it technically is “poking it” but not to the same scale as if I had actually pressed for more info.

In post 492, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 244, Farkran wrote:I think only the magia part of salamence claim is bs

The rest is true

Why would someone go to the trouble to fake only one part of their role while being truthful with the remainder of the claim?

Salamence notices obv bs from severa

Salamence produces obv bs in response

I don't think anyone ever seriously claims cop d1, especially right after he yelled at me for talking too much. The rest of the claim makes sense and is probably true, i see no harm in that, especially given the peculiar mp ability that no one ever asked for (weirdly enough, since bitmap claims to have huge powers in his role - makes me think that is also bs).

I believe no one has actually claimed seriously so far, with the possible exceptions of gamma (but then again he pretty much claimed VT) and TL, who has been... like, inappropriately superficial so far

In post 418, Evenstar wrote:Suji... has a weird formal tone to their posts that makes me instantly dislike him, because I've seen scum hide behind formality more than a few times. His actual actions also don't look that great. Overall, meh; I think I want to give him a bit more time to develop before I come down hard one way or the other, but he certainly isn't winning any favours rn.

Apologies if you do not like my tone. You aren't the first person I've heard that from here, but I cannot change the way that I am.

In post 373, Farkran wrote:

In post 362, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 345, Farkran wrote:By the way, TL and alchemist are 3rd and 6th in the activity count respectively, so i wouldn't say i am townreading the loudest players. Where did you get that impression?

Oh, about Gamma vs Venus, that's because gamma picked a blast (i think it's a towny move). 130 also sounds like town to me. Venus never posted once and picked a Charge, so i have literally no content to analyze about her hydra

Why do you have me at null then, sounds like you only have reason to townread me
FYI I’m reading from my last post, then I’ll read the rest

My read of you is one of the weakest, for obvious reasons. I... just hate having holes in my readlists, those are reserved for players i have literally zero content on. You will be sorted more accurately later, but i liked this post of yours.

So you’re saying your read on me is null-town, and so you threw me in the null pile. Makes sense, though there’s plenty I still distrust about your play

In post 375, TemporalLich wrote:

In post 374, Farkran wrote:@TL can you scumcase me properly? You have a pretty strong read on me for stating i would flip town only "by miracle".

You've already proved you're faking being towny, your newer posts consisting of you actually being towny fail to sway me.

This mindset looks kinda shitty. Farkran didn’t “prove” anything and tuning out the newer posts because of an opinion formed on the old ones is something I almost never support.

In post 503, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 369, Evenstar wrote:

In post 361, Bitmap wrote:

In post 358, Evenstar wrote:Hmmmmmmm.

VOTE: Bitmap

Gut feeling something's off here. Circumstantial things so far, but enough that it's worth prodding them.

Gut feeling you should not prod my slot or else we'll have a Magical Girls re-run and yes, this is a crumb.

ehhh ok.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Why me out of all people? Honestly this wouldn’t bug me except you vote me

again

later but with more explanation that time.

meh. You feel wierd. Think it could be that you traded out Rayquaza for... that... but you're also just bad gutfeels. I particularly dislike that you scumread me for feeling like Severa is off-meta when you're saying they're off-meta. I also also dislike that you fell off it so quickly. I think Severa may be right and that you never really scumread her in the first place.

In post 506, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 418, Evenstar wrote:Suji... has a weird formal tone to their posts that makes me instantly dislike him, because I've seen scum hide behind formality more than a few times. His actual actions also don't look that great. Overall, meh; I think I want to give him a bit more time to develop before I come down hard one way or the other, but he certainly isn't winning any favours rn.

Apologies if you do not like my tone. You aren't the first person I've heard that from here, but I cannot change the way that I am.

Yeah, I understand that some players are just like this. Keep contributing and you'll change my mind.

@Gamma Emerald: Why are you not voting? You have a lot to say, but you aren't putting a vote behind anything you say.

In post 504, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 501, Evenstar wrote:

In post 499, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 364, Bitmap wrote:

In post 363, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 361, Bitmap wrote:

In post 358, Evenstar wrote:Hmmmmmmm.

VOTE: Bitmap

Gut feeling something's off here. Circumstantial things so far, but enough that it's worth prodding them.

Gut feeling you should not prod my slot or else we'll have a Magical Girls re-run and yes, this is a crumb.

Explain what you mean by MG rerun, kinda tuned that game out after I died

no

Btw not gonna poke this further rn

... he says, thus poking it.

Same logic as “not making a choice is itself a choice”, yes it technically is “poking it” but not to the same scale as if I had actually pressed for more info.

Why was it important that you share this decision with the class?

In post 378, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 371, TemporalLich wrote:

In post 370, Alchemist21 wrote:A) It’s still an odd comment for an RVS vote.

B) I thought Gamma had been here the whole time and didn’t realize they were catching up.

oh alright...

just means Gamma is NAI-weird and off-meta, not scummy

The thing is Gamma hasn’t really commented on me since that game I fooled them as scum; before that they claimed to be an expert at reading me. That’s been a while ago, so for them to make such an odd comment towards me now, it seems like they feel they HAVE to comment on me for some reason.

And yet I don’t say anything until I react to that later post. Why do you think scum!me feels I have to acknowledge our history? It’s less important to me than my history with, say, MariaR or A50. Yes I did have a solid read record on you but unlike those two I don’t think we play together enough rn for me to care.

In post 511, Sujimichi wrote:@Gamma Emerald: Why are you not voting? You have a lot to say, but you aren't putting a vote behind anything you say.

If you're trying to pocket me this is a damn good start. Keep posting.

In post 482, Salamence20 wrote:

In post 479, Evenstar wrote:

In post 478, Gamma Emerald wrote:You know what that’s reason enough to throw out my suspicions of Severa

I don't buy this is a real thought.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Honest question: do scum really put as much effort to catch up as Gamma is?

Maybe not but scums are picky for sure. He was very focused on nuisances, like 470 467 474 are good examples. They might give wrong impression, if placed out of context.

In post 505, Farkran wrote:

In post 492, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 244, Farkran wrote:I think only the magia part of salamence claim is bs

The rest is true

Why would someone go to the trouble to fake only one part of their role while being truthful with the remainder of the claim?

Salamence notices obv bs from severa

Salamence produces obv bs in response

I don't think anyone ever seriously claims cop d1, especially right after he yelled at me for talking too much. The rest of the claim makes sense and is probably true, i see no harm in that, especially given the peculiar mp ability that no one ever asked for (weirdly enough, since bitmap claims to have huge powers in his role - makes me think that is also bs).

I believe no one has actually claimed seriously so far, with the possible exceptions of gamma (but then again he pretty much claimed VT) and TL, who has been... like, inappropriately superficial so far

Do you actually think that Salamence saw through this and wanted to claim? Did he fake panic?

@Evenstar eh I think I had another different avatar between those two but I picked this because in another game I was getting tired of how the town was not playing to win and I felt a certain “make a move” energy course through me which reminded me of the person that is in my current avi
And like yeah we both were saying Severa was off meta, but we were referencing different meta. I was referring to statements that I believe were made in Project ARCH, whilst you referred to MG, and your meta was involving claim behaviors I believe, while mine was about self meta. And like the statement I never really scumread Severa isn’t that wrong, as stated previously I only found that one thing suspect, but it was so flagrant it needed to be pushed.
And I shared that because it was on my mind and I wanted to speak up rather than keep it bottled up. I think in general I’m bad about keeping a lid on things.

@Suji I hadn’t read much of anything before now, and I want to post a lead rist before voting rn.

In post 515, Kerset wrote:

In post 482, Salamence20 wrote:

In post 479, Evenstar wrote:

In post 478, Gamma Emerald wrote:You know what that’s reason enough to throw out my suspicions of Severa

I don't buy this is a real thought.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Honest question: do scum really put as much effort to catch up as Gamma is?

Maybe not but scums are picky for sure. He was very focused on nuisances, like 470 467 474 are good examples. They might give wrong impression, if placed out of context.

Interesting take. It seems like you are town reading me despite those posts, why?

In post 517, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Evenstar eh I think I had another different avatar between those two but I picked this because in another game I was getting tired of how the town was not playing to win and I felt a certain “make a move” energy course through me which reminded me of the person that is in my current avi
And like yeah we both were saying Severa was off meta, but we were referencing different meta. I was referring to statements that I believe were made in Project ARCH, whilst you referred to MG, and your meta was involving claim behaviors I believe, while mine was about self meta. And like the statement I never really scumread Severa isn’t that wrong, as stated previously I only found that one thing suspect, but it was so flagrant it needed to be pushed.
And I shared that because it was on my mind and I wanted to speak up rather than keep it bottled up. I think in general I’m bad about keeping a lid on things.

@Suji I hadn’t read much of anything before now, and I want to post a lead rist before voting rn.

Where would you say your read of Severa is right now?

In post 513, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 378, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 371, TemporalLich wrote:

In post 370, Alchemist21 wrote:A) It’s still an odd comment for an RVS vote.

B) I thought Gamma had been here the whole time and didn’t realize they were catching up.

oh alright...

just means Gamma is NAI-weird and off-meta, not scummy

The thing is Gamma hasn’t really commented on me since that game I fooled them as scum; before that they claimed to be an expert at reading me. That’s been a while ago, so for them to make such an odd comment towards me now, it seems like they feel they HAVE to comment on me for some reason.

And yet I don’t say anything until I react to that later post. Why do you think scum!me feels I have to acknowledge our history? It’s less important to me than my history with, say, MariaR or A50. Yes I did have a solid read record on you but unlike those two I don’t think we play together enough rn for me to care.

Maybe you thought it would be awkward if you didn’t acknowledge our history. If that’s not what it was then what was that comment on my rvs vote about?

In post 505, Farkran wrote:Salamence notices obv bs from severa

Did Salamence notice that it was obviously not a true claim? I didn't pick up on that from reading Salamence's posting.

In post 505, Farkran wrote:Salamence produces obv bs in response

But, the issue that I brought up was that why would they "produce obv bs" for only a portion of their role claim? If they felt it was not true, and only done to elicit a reaction, why would they not produce a false role claim in its entirety?

In post 505, Farkran wrote:I don't think anyone ever seriously
claims cop d1,

Salamence didn't claim cop. He claimed rolecop which is a functionally different role.

You seem to rely a lot on your own feelings about players and their play, and not so much reasoning or rationale behind actions. Is this a fair statement?

@kerset



And after this, he doesn't even vote Severa out of his "gambit"

How is that not bs? It's the towny kind of bs though

In post 399, Severa wrote:I was just going to troll so that I could live longer but I'd rather deal with this today, and I think that mathematically a desperado is no worse than a vig.
Arguably better given that me shooting town doesn't actually clear me outside of in a "it removes me from the game" sense but yeah.

Multitabling. Also not a ton of content to work from yet. Also I'm paranoid about being in another game with RC after he ML'd me D1 last time.

You're in luck! Also, stop fucking calling me RC my name is SEVERA.

You know thinking about this further this kinda clicks when I think about my play in Grand Idea UPick. It very much parallels how I decided to desperado DEB instead of sui bomb him that game I feel

In post 522, Farkran wrote:And after this, he doesn't even vote Severa out of his "gambit"

Perhaps the below is why.

In post 308, Salamence20 wrote:Severa has now indirectly and directly gotten 2 people to out prs now. Idk how I feel about it.