Churros about to hate me for this post. Sorry, buddy.
In post 401, Egix96 wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Adorable
I'm sold, honestly.
In post 398, Adorable wrote:
I said over here everyone approaches games differently and you can't expect a town player to play the same in another game they play as town. I'm getting really sick and tired of this meta discussion to the point when there is no case on me. Maybe I should just claim and this should be a lesson learnt to never focus on meta.
Claiming won't clear you in a role madness game. Furthermore, I would be very disappointed if you were actually a powerful town role.
When this post happened, I didn't like it. As I sit here thinking about it, I still do not like it.
Titus
, what do you think of this vote and the subsequent comments?
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Finally getting around to this (again
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The read mainly stems from Chronos's early aggression towards Team STRQ. I think Chronos is an alt, but I really do not see someone trying to take on a town four-headed hydra in the way that Chronos did. I would expect scum to take potshots at the hydra, but tackling a slot with four heads is a huge undertaking. It is even more difficult knowing the four heads in that hydra. Krazy, Alyssa (Ankamius), Taly,
and
Enter? Yeah. If I was scum I would probably town read that slot to pocket it and then blow it up into smithereens in the night. All four of those players can be extremely dogged and frankly I do not think it is worth scum's time to try to fight that beast head on. Both
122 and
165 show that Chronos is not afraid to take monumental undertaking onto her shoulders. I really do not think scum pick that fight that early in the game when there are plenty of other weaker slots to attack.
Independent of her attack on STRQ, I think she had comprehensive scumhunting much earlier than I would imagine a scum would begin to try and fake comprehensive scumhunting. You can see what I am talking about in
217.
I hope that helps clarify my townread on Chronos. I am going to jump ahead because I know you asked me about my read on Churros.
Apart from the wonderful alliterative effect of putting Chronos after Churros in my towncore, I found these two posts to be townie.
In post 296, Churros wrote:There was a lot of...words, and I didn't parse everything yet (I'll re:read the game at some point), but from my skim I came up with
[Chronos]
[Adorable]
[Everyone else] - null
[Eyesott]
I felt eyesott posting was forced and when I did properly ISO him I only saw filler or posts that came off as trying to look busy. I'm quite happy with those reads.
Basic premises:
I do not think Churros is an alt.
I think Churros is still new to mafia.
Given those premises, I do not think Churros makes this type of readslist. Churros listed Adorable as the second highet townread. This is going to draw the suspicion of mastina, another player who if I am scum, I just try to pocket and blow up in the night.
I am very much supportive of the path of least resistance when I am scum.
[NOTE - part of the above analysis is wrong as Churros has admitted to being an alt focused on casual play in
499, I still think that the casual aspect of the account leads Churros to not want to antagonize or set himself up to butt heads with mastina though]
The scumread on eyestott also seems like original scumhunting. It isn't just a blank scumread. It is accompanied with reasons in the post below.
In post 298, Churros wrote:I don't usually explain town reads but I feel like I'm going to mostly work with those two (I don't think I'm going to get confident town reads on anyone else in this playerlist, I don't vibe well here) therefore properly explaining it for once might be the way to go.
The main reason I'm TR'ing both slots is that I feel both actively invested in solving the game, in a way that it's not just a "solvy post to look busy".Chronos's posts come off as very engrossed in the game and his long posts don't feel like the classic scum writing a lot of redundant things to make posts bigger. His words have purpose.
Adorable seems actively solving the game and I distinctly remember that being huge town points for him, because his scum meta is being rather lackluster as far as I know. It would be something null for most players but I TR him for it.
Adorable/Chronos, give eyesott ISO a glance. Not interested? I've really not a grasp of the game and skipped around 60% of the posts in my skim, but I feel good about my SR on him regardless of anything else.
Moreover, I find the
orange
to be candid in a way that I doubt Churros would post it as scum. Churros is still new to the site. I doubt Churros has established a meta or reputation as a player that does not explain their town reads, but Churros chooses to acknowledge this and go out of their way to post about it.
However, this could be something like EP where Churros thinks Churros would post that comment if town and has a guilty conscience about it.
But, I think it is more likely that Churros is town in this instance.
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Thinking back on this answer, Chronos, what was this in response to specifically? I asked you two questions in the immediately preceding post.
I asked you what you thought of Rabid Schnauzer's vote on me, which I think is what you answered.
But I also asked you what you thought of my opinions on EspressoPatronum, which I do not think you answered yet.
357 if you need a refresher on which post I am asking about.
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In post 423, Titus wrote: In post 419, gobbledygook wrote:Why would I omgus you for calling me Professor Gobbles? I find that title to be a compliment.
Oh bullshit. It's clear by the context I wasn't using Professor Gobbles as a compliment. You have been filling up the thread with useless theory while interacting with EP rather than anything that sorts him.
Titus
I am still having trouble parsing this.
Could you point to my interactions with EP that show I have not been sorting him? Out of all the slots in the game, I would say that I have been trying to sort him the most. We were fantastic mason partners in Mainstream Mafia II and we worked well together in Team Mafia 2020.
In post 428, Titus wrote:
This scum core is another reason I don't trust you Gobbles.
Your scumcore is my two scumreads, me, and the one other guy voting EP. Your pool is about distancing from EP but shading those who want him dead.
Your interactions might as well be a neon sign of scum with EP and BP. I don't let people have their cake and eat it too.
In post 442, Titus wrote:But you know I am scumhunting. That's the rub. You may not agree with my methods, but you know I am using them. You know this is how I hunt from T v A as well
You expect too much of me.
I have the memory of a goldfish. When it comes to things, I can't really remember anything. People get mad at me for asking a lot of questions, some of the time being redundant or already asked questions, but it is because I have a super terrible memory.
I do not really remember the specifics of your scumhunting.
I do remember your tone though. It is much harsher here.
In post 470, alimdia wrote:gobble I unvoted Adora cos it was my RVS vote, and I didnt want the wagon getting too big
Why is the wagon getting big a bad thing?
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They mean a lot coming from you. I hope I don't disappoint with this new found burden on my back. 
But, I think it is more likely that Churros is town in this instance.
