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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:06 pm
by mastina
In post 461, We are not helping wrote:UHHH I THINK INTRODUCING TIME STAMPS IS OUT OF GAME INFLUENCE HERE MASTINA
I MAY HAVE DONE THAT AND GOT WARNED IN A PRIOR GAME
JUST A HEADS UP
I didn't include the timestamp down to the second, just that it was shortly after 8 pm. Also, this is Jingle. I know I can get away with it because I have gotten away with it before. He didn't modkill me last time, and even said what I did was, explicitly, per his rules, legal and allowed, so I know I'm fine to have done it this time, too.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:06 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Cakez you asked me about a question and I currently dont feel like rereading: repeat?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:07 pm
by Bernadetta
You know even a tamed beast bites if you test its boundary too much.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:07 pm
by mastina
In post 467, northsidegal wrote:i'm going to make a prediction – if we don't win this game within the first few days, we are certainly going to lose.
I mean, I feel like the game is close to solved right now.

With it close to solved, right now, later content will only be muddying up the waters, making things more murky, less clear, than they are now, so like.

Easy prediction to make there.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:08 pm
by We are not helping
In post 500, mastina wrote:
In post 461, We are not helping wrote:UHHH I THINK INTRODUCING TIME STAMPS IS OUT OF GAME INFLUENCE HERE MASTINA
I MAY HAVE DONE THAT AND GOT WARNED IN A PRIOR GAME
JUST A HEADS UP
I didn't include the timestamp down to the second, just that it was shortly after 8 pm. Also, this is Jingle. I know I can get away with it because I have gotten away with it before. He didn't modkill me last time, and even said what I did was, explicitly, per his rules, legal and allowed, so I know I'm fine to have done it this time, too.
but like when u receive a role pm isn't AI? At all? And we both know that.

So maybe arguing it is a bit dumb?

~fire

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:09 pm
by SirCakez
In post 499, Wonderwalll wrote:
In post 480, Wonderwalll wrote:
In post 474, SirCakez wrote:Oh I can't vote Wonderwall they aren't in my game :(
What shifted you into scumreading me cakez?

-wall
I responded to this in

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:09 pm
by Wonderwalll
I mean go check my iso that game mastina and you’ll see that I very much did not duke it out with micc in the lylo — I basically just said “micc is a ninja/strongman, vote him my iso speaks for itself”

Other than that I had a relatively unpleasant scumgsme in Hungarian mafia but other than that I haven’t actually played scum for a while and I died immediately in team mafia so like I don’t think your “burned out on scum” theory makes any sense

Vs this just being my general effortposting variance across games. Like I’m not burned out bc of what happens to me as either alignment really, it’s more about burnout from mood. I can’t explain it super well

I mean also yeah, ali and I talked about how to enjoy rhe game on discord the other day which I already acknowledged I thread? Go check the sign up thread and you can see we talking about being busy and how I’d have to do most of the ~*playing*~ and that e would mostly be there to try and teach me to enjoy large themes

-wall

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:09 pm
by SirCakez
SirCakez wrote:
In post 491, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think this game will go downhill very quickly with 2 players removed from it.
In what way?
This was the question RC

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:10 pm
by mastina
In post 484, SirCakez wrote:iirc you get really scummy in late game when you're scum
Oh yeah, definitely. Like, I can get more scummy later in the game as town if I have a massive mental health dive, massive physical dive in availabilty, am around less, am motivated less, etc., but like. Almost every single game I get more and more obviously town as town the later the game goes and more and more obviously scum as scum the later the game goes.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:10 pm
by Wonderwalll
Oh sorry I missed that cakez

What makes them feel fake scumhunty to you as opposed to real scumhunty?

-wall

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:11 pm
by Wonderwalll
In post 466, Wonderwalll wrote:
In post 273, Wonderwalll wrote:
In post 160, RadiantCowbells wrote:'m not putting it even slightly past you to be doing this deliberately to destroy town unity because that is objectively what shitting on half of the players in a game accomplishes
Who are you talking to here and how do you think they’re shitting on half the playerlist bc I don’t see it?
In post 274, Wonderwalll wrote:Oh, it was to jjh then

How do you think he was shitting on half the playerlist?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:12 pm
by Bernadetta
If we just avoid this cursed pattern we have much higher chance to win :)

Game start -> hype -> (toxic) shoutdown -> burnout

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:13 pm
by SirCakez
In post 509, Wonderwalll wrote:Oh sorry I missed that cakez

What makes them feel fake scumhunty to you as opposed to real scumhunty?

-wall
Like you were picking at weird things like the "shitting on half the playerlist" thing. Like stuff to appear busy but not stuff I feel town would care about.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:13 pm
by northsidegal
In post 503, mastina wrote:
In post 467, northsidegal wrote:i'm going to make a prediction – if we don't win this game within the first few days, we are certainly going to lose.
I mean, I feel like the game is close to solved right now.

With it close to solved, right now, later content will only be muddying up the waters, making things more murky, less clear, than they are now, so like.

Easy prediction to make there.
That's not what I'm getting at, although I agree with you that scum caught early in the day is probably more likely to live than scum caught later in the day, because people don't like ending the day early (justifiably so, I think), and they also don't like sitting on the same wagon for very long.

I'm of the opinion that, in games that aren't relatively quick town victories, it's incredibly important to have at least one person—and very preferably more—willing to go back and
actually review
what went on in earlier days, rather than simply continuing on with their existing thoughts. I think the lack of such players is what leads to a lot of town losses in LyLo, and I think the players who do this tend to be high-priority kill targets because they're known as being vicious in LyLo (skitter comes to mind).

With that in mind I think the game so far is absolutely terrible for going back to review later on—about the only upside I can see is that people have pretty strong reads fairly early, which might be telling looking back. Apart from that, the rate at which we're posting and the distribution of post counts is, I think, pretty non-conducive to reading back later. So, yeah. I guess I hope the game is close to solved, although I don't really feel that way myself.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:13 pm
by SirCakez
Ftr I think Elmo is still the scummiest player in the game

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:14 pm
by Wonderwalll
I’ll explain after raybells answers

-wall

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:14 pm
by Bernadetta
I would state a third read, but that means it's triple my quota and people will start expecting more out of me.
And that's no-bueno.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:15 pm
by Wonderwalll
It’s worth going back and looking at my towngames seeing as you’ve only played with scum!me tho, to try and get a baseline for how often I ask about stuff you think town wouldn’t care about

-wall

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:15 pm
by We are not helping
In post 511, Bernadetta wrote:If we just avoid this cursed pattern we have much higher chance to win :)

Game start -> hype -> (toxic) shoutdown -> burnout
ur right.

we should do this instead:

toxic -> shitshow -> dead game -> rage quit -> replaces in -> toxic (repeating cycle)

^this is a proven cycle that works.


Anyways,
I feel extremely lackluster on mastina response to my scumread on her. I don't think her reads are real. And her response didn't even seem to match her like emotions to what I know of her.

This has been ur mastina expert with the latest updates. Don't flip that channel as we have Weatherman Bitboi to show us the daily forecast next.

~fire

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:19 pm
by Bernadetta
Also if mastina is saying the truth, then can't we just wait like 20 days? I mean the game has no deadline so this game is really 6-pool rush or war of attrition.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:24 pm
by Bernadetta
And I'd rather pick war of attrition because this site is good that the deadline isn't something silly like 48 hours.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:25 pm
by RadiantCowbells
i think that this lobby is so crazy that i am a relatively stabling influence

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:26 pm
by Wonderwalll
I think you are an influence who stables people, yes

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:26 pm
by Wonderwalll
“RC the horse whisperer” we call you

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:27 pm
by Wonderwalll
Can u answer my question now?

-wall