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[Aloratom]

This might sound like a stupid question, but what was your plan in the post you voted him? The way you worded it makes it so you are not opposing the lurking p lynch on tictac while justifying being off the wagon. I think you can understand why this bugs me.

I wasn't opposed to the tictac wagon as a pressuring device, but it looked at that point that there were enough pressure votes there. I wasn't going to join it with that number of people on it, especially after they had been prodded when it initially looked like they were going to be active. I had other concerns at that time.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

It's basically just putting out early readlists and being more transparent, Hodlne. The joking is definitely still there.

Since I'm probably never using this alt again: Paragon

Oh that was you? lol

[Cat Scratch Fever]

V/LA until the 24th. I'll still be trying to read and contribute when I can.

profii, I went looking for them.
AaronFF, the questions weren't serious.

Aloratom's last post is scummy because he states a hypothesis, then acknowledges evidence which disproves his hypothesis, but then makes the false conclusion that he wants anyway.

I'm not obliged to trust what others say about your meta.

Do you not trust other people's meta reads here because you think these same people could be scum or you don't trust metareads in general because they're inaccurate?

Because once a certain number of people start saying this looks like Hectic's town meta, they can't all be lying scum, right

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think it's kinda forcing Hectic to be scum no matter what he does. I assumed it was a joke so I just called it "not nice".. but apparently it wasn't

@Hectic

I'm stupid!!

Why is it forcing Hectic to be scum over just genuinely trying to understand?

Although I'm kinda curious what made profii ask the question in 438 tbh because there were 6 mins between posts 436 and 437 and anyone could've easily read through their own ISO and pick out scumhunt-y posts

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Holden who are your townreads and scumreads?

[SirCakez]

tictac (4): Gamma Emerald, Cat Scratch Fever, SirCakez, Wake88

The question is. Does this wagon have scum in it or have scum avoided it.

If scum have avoided it, then why. Is tic scum or does scum not want to be see to go after lurker lynch.

I certainly cant see more than one of them being scum. If tic flips town.

what are YOUR answers to these questions, bob?

[SirCakez]

I don't mind the tictac wagon. Hectic's nonsense filler questions, though, are just padding his ISO, polluting it. I don't see him accomplishing much. People say that's consistent with his meta. That's okay I guess, but it seems off.

VOTE: Hectic

What makes you think his questions are off if you're aware it's his meta?

Also Alo can you answer this?

[AaronFrost]

AaronFF, the questions weren't serious.

[AaronFrost]

Tictac is all fine and dandy-- but what do you guys think about profii?

no real opinion on him tbh

[AaronFrost]

I honestly cannot remember hectics playstyle past RVS and even if I did it would be outdated. Sadness. I want to say though as town that he keeps the joking up throughout the day when most others get serious

This, 100%

I think that as scum Hectic is slightly less gimmicky and more likely to start playing seriously earlier in the game. There's a few elements of his play here that feel serious, but likely aren't on a second glance. Right now I'd put Hectic at > rand chance of being town.

[AaronFrost]

It's basically just putting out early readlists and being more transparent, Hodlne. The joking is definitely still there.

Since I'm probably never using this alt again: Paragon

Aww man I wanted to be the only one who knew about your super secret alt

[AaronFrost]

This might sound like a stupid question, but what was your plan in the post you voted him? The way you worded it makes it so you are not opposing the lurking p lynch on tictac while justifying being off the wagon. I think you can understand why this bugs me.

I wasn't opposed to the tictac wagon as a pressuring device, but it looked at that point that there were enough pressure votes there.

I wasn't going to join it with that number of people on it, especially after they had been prodded when it initially looked like they were going to be active.

I had other concerns at that time.

This post reads overly cautious to me

tictac was at 3 or 4 votes, which is only about half the required amount to lynch so there's not much danger in adding more pressure there, which you should want to do if you're town. The bolded part especially screams to me "I don't want to get caught randomly hopping onto a lurker wagon"

[AaronFrost]

VOTE: Aloratom

We have a little over four days left and some people haven't moved their votes since RVS. Put your votes in play people.

[Wake1]

I have time to pressure tictac later.

I'd be OK with an Aloratom lynch today.

VOTE: Aloratom

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are people voting A-Tom?

[Hectic]

tictac's play so far is a stark contrast to their last 3 town games, and fits more with their most recent scumgame.

One
Two
Three
Scumgame - replaced out

In the town games, they have a lot of thoughts, and are straight in there from the start with the solving. Scumgame has less reasoning provided with posts.

In this game, they didn't make any attempts to solve and have only fluff posted, which is the polar opposite of their town meta.

VOTE: Chemist1422 I don't have much time nowadays but hopefully this will flip scum and clear me!

[SirCakez]

Jeez I had no idea deadline was so close
Alo is definitely awkward but I think there's more scum equity in tictac right now especially considering hectic's post
Why vote Chemist Hectic?

[Aloratom]

I don't mind the tictac wagon. Hectic's nonsense filler questions, though, are just padding his ISO, polluting it. I don't see him accomplishing much. People say that's consistent with his meta. That's okay I guess, but it seems off.

VOTE: Hectic

What makes you think his questions are off if you're aware it's his meta?

Also Alo can you answer this?

I wasn't aware that that was his meta. Others were saying that. They were reaching the conclusion that he was Town based on it. I didn't like that. The padding of the ISO with fluff bothered me. But now that I know who it it, I have a better handle on it and am more inclined to agree, although I still think something I can't put a name to right now doesn't feel right about Hectic.

A lot of people are saying the same thing about Wake, that his aggressiveness is part of his Town meta. That's fine, but to me, that doesn't mean he's Town this game. He could be playing against type. I think that's even more likely with him, perhaps, since he's chimed in and agreed with at least one or two of those meta conclusions made on him.

[Aloratom]

This might sound like a stupid question, but what was your plan in the post you voted him? The way you worded it makes it so you are not opposing the lurking p lynch on tictac while justifying being off the wagon. I think you can understand why this bugs me.

I wasn't opposed to the tictac wagon as a pressuring device, but it looked at that point that there were enough pressure votes there.

I wasn't going to join it with that number of people on it, especially after they had been prodded when it initially looked like they were going to be active.

I had other concerns at that time.

This post reads overly cautious to me

tictac was at 3 or 4 votes, which is only about half the required amount to lynch so there's not much danger in adding more pressure there, which you should want to do if you're town. The bolded part especially screams to me "I don't want to get caught randomly hopping onto a lurker wagon"

I don't mind this post. I wasn't aware how many were on the wagon, only that the three posts immediately preceding mine had votes on them, so I figured there were quite a few.

[Aloratom]

at first galnce i woudl say alorat seems different from his scum game. There he was say x and y was scum without any reason.

So Bob, gotta ask -- in this game he said you were scum without any reason.
If that's what he does in scumgames, then why were you so nonchalant about it here?

This feels a little selective. I say alor in general is not acting like he was in his scum game. And you jump on the fact that he made a quick early scum read. Although he may of given a bit of a scum read at the same time he is saying things like in post 262. Where he says he hasnt got handle on me. Thus what ever read he has is not strong. With this same read being a page 4 read and not real much of big deal.

What level of reason wuld you expect anyoen to have so early into teh game. where if everyone posted equally no one woudl hae more than 7 posts. With me havign 3 or so mostly rvs posts. What level of reason would you realy expect any player to have at that point.

And everything else regarding me in his posts has not been to push me but just generaly commenting on early events in neutral manner.


In his scum game he as active in throwing shade around and persistently push the same reads and pushs even though he never backed them up

Did you think that RVS post where I voted you was a serious post?

Bob -- I don't know if you missed this. While all that dumb stuff between Wake and me was going on it seemed that you realized that my vote on you was RVS but your answer to Dave seems a little different. Do you really think I made a "quick early scum read" on you?

[Gamma Emerald]

What’s the votals rn

[Chemist1422]

I'll read over alora

[SirCakez]

I don't mind the tictac wagon. Hectic's nonsense filler questions, though, are just padding his ISO, polluting it. I don't see him accomplishing much. People say that's consistent with his meta. That's okay I guess, but it seems off.

VOTE: Hectic

What makes you think his questions are off if you're aware it's his meta?

Also Alo can you answer this?

I wasn't aware that that was his meta. Others were saying that. They were reaching the conclusion that he was Town based on it. I didn't like that. The padding of the ISO with fluff bothered me. But now that I know who it it, I have a better handle on it and am more inclined to agree, although I still think something I can't put a name to right now doesn't feel right about Hectic.

A lot of people are saying the same thing about Wake, that his aggressiveness is part of his Town meta. That's fine, but to me, that doesn't mean he's Town this game. He could be playing against type. I think that's even more likely with him, perhaps, since he's chimed in and agreed with at least one or two of those meta conclusions made on him.

Ok
Can you describe anymore this "offness"?

[Chemist1422]

Alora, how would you describe your usual playstyle?

[profii]

tictac's play so far is a stark contrast to their last 3 town games, and fits more with their most recent scumgame.

One
Two
Three
Scumgame - replaced out

In the town games, they have a lot of thoughts, and are straight in there from the start with the solving. Scumgame has less reasoning provided with posts.

In this game, they didn't make any attempts to solve and have only fluff posted, which is the polar opposite of their town meta.

VOTE: Chemist1422 I don't have much time nowadays but hopefully this will flip scum and clear me!

Good enough for me


VOTE: Chemist1422