In post 491, Blair wrote:We have over 24 hours left in the phase and suddenly just because Celeste self-votes now you're in a rush? What happened to the importance of us taking advantage of our unforced phases to consider our options and the immeasurable value of the IC's input?
Remember when T-Bone and Maxwell thought it was super scummy to disregard the value of the IC because we would want them alive so they could weigh in on our options? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
The desperation that suddenly reared its ugly head when Celeste cast her vote is painting a new picture. Maxwell/T-Bone is looking more believable than before - almost like scum pissed they thought they had a win lined up from Day 1 and they overplayed their hand.
CSF scum still makes the most sense due to the nightkill, which I don't really understand coming from just Max/T-Bone, but that nightkill is literally the only reason I'm doubting that solve based on the interactions of the last page and a half.
this post is the biggest bullshit post of the game so far lmao
nice try Blair
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:56 am
by GuiltyLion
If I get hammered between now and whenever I post again (gotta do some Real Work today unfortunately), my departing thoughts are this:
1. as of late, I'm fairly confident scum is CSF/Blair and the GL lynch is autowin.
2. if Blair isn't scum, then CSF is essentially confscum and would absolutely be my preferred lynch in 5p.
3. assuming the game then goes to 3p, it's a hard solve, due to my first point. I don't know if I'm comfortable giving final words on who I'd want lynched there. of the three, maxwell is probably my strongest townread. I know Kanna left us with a very short ISO but I think the interactions between Clover/T-Bone and Kanna should be dissected and poured over to weigh on the decision, I do think the Clover/Kanna dynamic doesn't feel like SvS.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:58 am
by GuiltyLion
I think in trying to play careful/paranoid town and cover our bases and not be too arrogant in our solve, we've all been a bit blind to the simplest explanation in front of us: CSF/Blair is the team and didn't have
any
good NK options last night
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:02 am
by GuiltyLion
also rereading Clover/me on D1 may be fruitful as well in a hypothetical 3p LYLO - it did feel to me for a bit like he was setting up to mislynch me back when beeboy was the likely D1 lynch and the 3p would have been Clover/Blair/GL
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:06 am
by GuiltyLion
but then again, Clover has put in a respectable amount of effort this game that frankly he just wouldn't have to do as scum. he didn't even fight the switch from Beeboy->Dunn which would be game changing if he really was trying to endgame with a mislynch on me.
In post 452, Clover Ebi wrote:I think you're taking my comment the wrong way, but this has helped me regardless.
Pray tell, how has this helped you in reading T-Bone?
I think the way T-bone reacted to me has made me townread him even more. It's not like I wasn't townreading him already but since my mind is thinking of lylo where it's Max and T-bone I have to think about it from that standpoint. While his points against me made sense that's not really the part that stuck out to me. (Given scum can make sense as well) It was more the fact T-bone came after me right away instead of waiting for later along with his tone. It just seems unneeded
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:18 am
by T-Bone
Much love my dude. I'll wait till you get your answers.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:19 am
by T-Bone
Oh, there it is.
Intent. Anyone else have anything they want?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:20 am
by Clover Ebi
I'm craving some upsidedown fudgecake if you have any to spare! Besides that I feel content to end the day.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:23 am
by Clover Ebi
In post 502, GuiltyLion wrote:I think in trying to play careful/paranoid town and cover our bases and not be too arrogant in our solve, we've all been a bit blind to the simplest explanation in front of us: CSF/Blair is the team and didn't have
any
good NK options last night
Hey speak for yourself! I've been trying to lynch you all day
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:29 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
I was prodded. Is it hammer time yet?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:59 am
by maxwell
I think I have fairly good reason to believe Kanna wouldn't interact with Clover the way she did but I'll cross that bridge if and only if I need to.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:00 am
by T-Bone
Okay, see ya'll on the other side.
vote: GuiltyLion
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:03 am
by Umlaut
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:07 am
by Umlaut
GuiltyLion the
Townie
was lynched.
maxwell
Clover Ebi
GuiltyLion
X
T-Bone
Celeste
Blair
beeboy
O
Cat Scratch Fever
Dunnstral
X
Night 2 has fallen.
Day 3 will dawn in (expired on 2020-06-19 19:08:00).
If all living players consent, I will end the night early.
This game was pretty much over as soon as Dunnstral was lynched, but I hope you all still had fun playing it! Props to Blair for trying every angle she could think of before throwing in the towel.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:25 pm
by GuiltyLion
yeah, that was a great try by Blair towards the end! I'm sorry you felt ignored, tbh a lot of my doing that was because I thought you were scum! I would love to be town with you in a future game where we can work together proper
I think this is a really tough setup for scum, they're really constrained in terms of sequencing their mislynches and so a few townies recognizing each other and then playing tic-tac-toe from there can really destroy you in a way that's easier to counter in usual setups. Scum very well could have won this if we lynched beeboy on D1, big props to all the townies involved in pivoting to Dunn at the right moment.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:25 pm
by GuiltyLion
thanks for modding Umlaut - I had a lot of fun, I like Blitzes, they keep me more engaged
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:26 pm
by Celeste
My route would've won as well technically! It just would've taken a little longer. I'm glad I could rely on my B and C-tier townies displaying their true skill to speed this up.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:28 pm
by GuiltyLion
I also was kinda not entirely sober and roleplaying/trying a different style in the very beginning of this game Friday night, I don't know if it worked so well as it netted me some hard-to-shake scumreads
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:30 pm
by beeboy
So I was town reading the right corner.
but I killed Blair by pure accident.
The way mafia was intended to be played thank you Mith.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:31 pm
by beeboy
Bigger thanks to Umlaut for modding and the players for making this a fun game to play!
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