In post 470, SirCakez wrote:But that has an opportunity cost of time of growing microbes + time of finding the land to grow grains on and/or the monetary cost of getting access to said land
Does that outweigh the convenience of grocery-store yeast?
If all that were involved, maybe.
Any old sack of flour contains yeast. And lactobacillus floats around in your kitchen. Water, flour, a warmish place in the kitchen, some benign neglect, and stand back, you're a microbe rancher.
Also, the bread is far superior in taste to bread made with commercial yeast.
But not everyone has the space and conditions to do this. You need certain humidity levels + certain warmth levels + levels of yeast in your air. It's not just a given that the correct microbes are in your kitchen.
This bread does taste better but it's much trickier to pull off. Your average bread baker is not gonna be able to pull this off and won't have the interest in doing so.
You could counterargue this with people are trying new things because of spare time in quarantine but that's not really holding true anymore, people have gotten apathetic and moved on.
You don't need yeast in your air. The kinds of yeast that eat wheat are in your bag of flour. Humidity doesn't really factor in. Dampen a towel and throw it over the starter/dough. Worst case, a completely acceptable temperature can be obtained by turning the light on in your oven if it's too cold everywhere else in your kitchen. I have a friend in Nebraska who wakes up his starter with the oven light.
I guess it's a lifestyle that not everybody would want to adopt. I don't really get why someone would go to the effort of making all their own bread and yet not dabble with sourdough, though. There's plenty of decent bread on store shelves where I live. There was a time this spring when it wasn't easy to buy flour because everybody was into bread baking there for a while. I'm guessing that's when commercial yeast was scarce, too.
I will concede this point - you're right that it is not that difficult to "make" yeast if you're willing.
I was referring to last spring yeah it's not really a thing anymore. But the yeast industry is making a lot of money this year! Only a temporary short-run shock I think though, especially once covid is done.
In post 66, Cabd wrote:I'm not fond of that type of pizza.
Noted!
Now. Why me before Syr?
You're scarier. And you're around! I feel like I'll know pretty quickly if Syr's town. He and I have some of the same weaknesses as scum, especially interacting with each other.
This post stands out to me. Are you holding your cards close to your chest here until you get a read or would you care to elaborate?
was liking midway but this post just... doesn't make sense in context. not sure what to make of it, but @midway i wanna know more about what was going through your head when you voted alisae here.
In post 186, midwaybear wrote:I don't get the point and I don't see the problem yet. I really doubt scum!Jake is going to come out of the game posting votecounts instead of trying to form connections with other people.
your defense of your partner is noted
am I doing it right peta?
this is also a bad look. feels very much like a post i would make as scum, though if people disagree that it's a generally scummy post i might just be projecting a bit too much. feedback welcome.
glad to see peta's "obvious townread" was the one i also felt was obvious (midwaybear)! unless he got bear town after he made that earlier post about having one townread which was obvious.
kinda liked 216. alisae is slightly leaning town at this point.
and now im at page 10!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:59 pm
by FakeGod
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:00 pm
by Nahdia
umm why am i voting bell?
@mod is the VC correct? my most recent vote is for fferyllt
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:04 pm
by Tammy
Nahdia that post was a joke.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:06 pm
by Nahdia
well yeah, obviously.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:06 pm
by Tammy
Why would you need feedback on whether it was a scummy post though?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:09 pm
by petapan
In post 507, Nahdia wrote:was liking midway but this post just... doesn't make sense in context. not sure what to make of it, but @midway i wanna know more about what was going through your head when you voted alisae here.
In post 507, Nahdia wrote:d to see peta's "obvious townread" was the one i also felt was obvious (midwaybear)! unless he got bear town after he made that earlier post about having one townread which was obvious.
huh?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:09 pm
by Tammy
That’s probably a dumb question actually. I have the question or response I want in my head to try to understand you a little better, but I’m having a hard time wording today.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:10 pm
by Nahdia
i guess because i feel the post is sort of blanket scummy rather than having a cogent reason for it being so. so if the general consensus is that im wrong, then maybe i should just trust everyone elses' gut over my own?
i do think it somewhat fits into a general pattern of you reading a bit self-conscious of your own contribution though around that point in the game though. posts 224, 235, and 242 play into this as well.
In post 507, Nahdia wrote:was liking midway but this post just... doesn't make sense in context. not sure what to make of it, but @midway i wanna know more about what was going through your head when you voted alisae here.
In post 507, Nahdia wrote:d to see peta's "obvious townread" was the one i also felt was obvious (midwaybear)! unless he got bear town after he made that earlier post about having one townread which was obvious.
huh?
i dont think those two statements contradict each other!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:19 pm
by Tammy
In post 515, Nahdia wrote:i guess because i feel the post is sort of blanket scummy rather than having a cogent reason for it being so. so if the general consensus is that im wrong, then maybe i should just trust everyone elses' gut over my own?
i do think it somewhat fits into a general pattern of you reading a bit self-conscious of your own contribution though around that point in the game though. posts 224, 235, and 242 play into this as well.
So for the first part uh I was just looking for a post to copy peta’s joke about me being your partner
Yeah, you’re interpreting those posts wrong. That was me recognizing my self imposed don’t do anything serious until page ten limit was about to expire and I still wasn’t in the mood to be serious.
I am, however, self conscious of my own contribution, and have already read my iso a coupe times to see if I would be town reading me. I would by the way! Yes, I know I’m an absolute crazy person.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:20 pm
by SirCakez
Omg Tammy is so town!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:24 pm
by Nahdia
cakez shall be the next target of my half-hearted perlustrations.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:26 pm
by Tammy
Which I guess is still self conscious actually, but not in the way you interpreted it to be. I think.
Tammy you know I'm weak to your persuasions
Would you abuse that as scum?
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:41 pm
by Tammy
Maybe?
I guess it depends on my mood? I don’t know? Maybe not.
I’m really uncomfortable with people town reading me when I’m scum though and uncomfortable calling myself town when I’m scum because I feel like everyone can tell the difference between when I’m goofing around and meaning it as town and saying it when I’m scum because I say it when I’m town.
So, I don’t know but it doesn’t matter because I’m not scum this time!
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:47 pm
by Cabd
Syr, was that a "I townread Cabd and he has CALLED FOR MY VOTE" vote, or a "Holy shit Cabd is right, kill it with fire" vote?
