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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:36 pm
by Datisi
Vote count 1.10

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-01-03 15:00:00).


execution
Radja [2]:
Not_Mafia, Horsewoman
Lostego [2]:
Ahsoka, Gimli son of Glóin
Horsewoman [2]:
Lostego, DkKoba
Ahsoka [1]:
Radja
clidd [1]:
Raya36

Not Voting [1]:
clidd


game state
Doom Counter
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~ With
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Mafia alive, the Town will be endgamed once they are brought down to
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Previously published lists:
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mod notes~ i managed to crawl out of bed
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:45 pm
by clidd
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:45 pm
by Horsewoman
In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
I bet all three of these are town that seems eminently possible. If there's a scum in there it's radja.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:47 pm
by Horsewoman
In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
In post 478, DkKoba wrote:
In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
the way this is my exact GtH solve rn :oops:
This sort of interaction is the sort I'd usually say wouldn't be between two scum but I think it has a high chance of being so here. That's because the setup of 3 scum out of 9 heavily incentivizes the scum to buddy up and stick together, because if all 3 are going the same way they only need 2 town to join them. So basically I'm saying that bussing is incredibly unlikely and scum overtly allying is much more possible.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:50 pm
by DkKoba
In post 475, DkKoba wrote:
In post 474, clidd wrote:Dk, on an ethical level of play, would you act unresolvable energetically and self-assertively, not allowing the question of the AI ​​character of your slot as scum?

Asking in the hypothetical sphere, of course.
judge for yourself:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84723
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=84805

yes and no.

when I'm scum I use the same strategy as town to get townread, because its easy, because people oftentimes will latch onto my NAI mannerisms and I can easily debunk them.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=83486

heres an example of me getting caught for the ~right~ reasons by varsoon -> my early reads were completely illogical and bad (was my first scumgame that wasn't avalon maf which wasnt really a maf game lol)
In post 503, Horsewoman wrote:
In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
In post 478, DkKoba wrote:
In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
the way this is my exact GtH solve rn :oops:
This sort of interaction is the sort I'd usually say wouldn't be between two scum but I think it has a high chance of being so here. That's because the setup of 3 scum out of 9 heavily incentivizes the scum to buddy up and stick together, because if all 3 are going the same way they only need 2 town to join them. So basically I'm saying that bussing is incredibly unlikely and scum overtly allying is much more possible.
so basically ur saying "uhhhhhhhhh this is POSSIBLE SO IT HAS TO BE TRUUUUUU"

:lol:

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:50 pm
by DkKoba
whoops accidental multiquote

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:51 pm
by clidd
So you do agree that Gimli is town too.

Good to hear. Not perfect because I'm not sure about you and Radja is a tl that I'm evaluating yet.

pedit: Scum!nm and Scum!Dk grouping in this way is something very fanciful in my opinion.

pedit²: Hallo Dk.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:05 am
by Gimli son of Glóin
Hullo! I don't have much time this morning so let's see.
In post 439, Lostego wrote: if im reading your posts wrong, your read on horsewoman is prior experience exclusively no?
How would that be a read? If the entirety of my thoughts on horsewoman isn't based off this game, then there isn't a read. I'm townreading things she did in this game of course.

(maybe I need coffee and these posts will suck, we'll see)

lostego's posts are really scummy. I might be moving onto something definite here.
In post 442, Lostego wrote:
In post 407, Lostego wrote:what should be asked is if the consensus aligns with town being on the right track or not.
OK this was ignored by about 3-4 people so i think scum is not interested in this wagon at all which makes it officially bad. when you have a near-consensus the best thing for scum to do is either insinuate that it's the right move or instill a sense of disbelief (if its wrong) for towncred. i am no longer supporting radja
Like this is so farfetched I'm not sure it can be a real thought. radja is far from being a consensus anything + this is not how you're supposed to scumhunt.

'these reads were never set in stone'. we all know that, so why the defensiveness? I don't think I'll make myself very clear now or case lostego for the right reasons but I get a very strong sense that his posts come from scum as there is no effort to solve and all of his opinions lack nuance.
In post 449, clidd wrote:Lostego is making me rethink my read on Volxen, I need to go back and reevaluate what I was seeing on him.
your current stance on lostego is very important so I hope you did or will reevaluate soon.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:06 am
by DkKoba
horsewoman why is it a high chance?

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:06 am
by DkKoba
In post 507, Gimli son of Glóin wrote:Hullo! I don't have much time this morning so let's see.
In post 439, Lostego wrote: if im reading your posts wrong, your read on horsewoman is prior experience exclusively no?
How would that be a read? If the entirety of my thoughts on horsewoman isn't based off this game, then there isn't a read. I'm townreading things she did in this game of course.

(maybe I need coffee and these posts will suck, we'll see)

lostego's posts are really scummy. I might be moving onto something definite here.
In post 442, Lostego wrote:
In post 407, Lostego wrote:what should be asked is if the consensus aligns with town being on the right track or not.
OK this was ignored by about 3-4 people so i think scum is not interested in this wagon at all which makes it officially bad. when you have a near-consensus the best thing for scum to do is either insinuate that it's the right move or instill a sense of disbelief (if its wrong) for towncred. i am no longer supporting radja
Like this is so farfetched I'm not sure it can be a real thought. radja is far from being a consensus anything + this is not how you're supposed to scumhunt.

'these reads were never set in stone'. we all know that, so why the defensiveness? I don't think I'll make myself very clear now or case lostego for the right reasons but I get a very strong sense that his posts come from scum as there is no effort to solve and all of his opinions lack nuance.
In post 449, clidd wrote:Lostego is making me rethink my read on Volxen, I need to go back and reevaluate what I was seeing on him.
your current stance on lostego is very important so I hope you did or will reevaluate soon.
COFFEE TELL COFFEE TELL COFFEE TELL

VOTE: gimli

TRUST ME ON THIS LOL THIS MANS JUST HARD SCUMTOLD

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:07 am
by Gimli son of Glóin
I had 2 hours of sleep

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:09 am
by clidd
I had 4 and I'm almost dying (figuratively).

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:10 am
by clidd
I'll take a look soon on volxen/lostego, don't worry.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:11 am
by Radja
Sorry, yesterday got super busy for me. I will catch up either tonight or tomorrow

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:12 am
by Gimli son of Glóin
I have to go do lots of things today and idk when I'll return or if I can post today so I'm making an effort while really sleepy to advance some thoughts.

clidd is almost in my townpile after his interaction with dkkoba. I've been having similar thoughts about koba and most of his interactions with my POE point to possible svs, specially to volxen/lostego, and I'm glad clidd got there and did so naturally.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:15 am
by Gimli son of Glóin
thread needs a lot more of everyone that isn't koba, ahsoka, me or clidd. I'm looking forward to hear more from you radja.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:16 am
by DkKoba
nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

saying you need to drink coffee is a universal scumtell. :lol:

the real reasoning is that you're preemptively crafting an excuse as to why your posts might be "lower quality". its a subtle thing.

:lol:

apologizing for "bad content" is scummy.

ergo

scumtell

but i'll play the game the normal way too:
you're discrediting lostego for a fair wagon analysis. like thats like reaching so hard to frame that as a scum mindset. and then to go and be like "there's no effort to solve"

mf he outted reads and reasoning idk where ur coming up with this :lol: its like u didnt even read what he has to say :lol:


and now ur appealing to clidd -> you townread clidd?

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:17 am
by DkKoba
gimli literally just pulled up to thread and said, fuck you guys imma show off my scum agenda to everyone.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:17 am
by Gimli son of Glóin
you should apologise for bad content.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:18 am
by DkKoba
clidd, scum just spewed u town by hard appealing to u. how do u feel

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:19 am
by DkKoba
theyre basically saying "lol clidd has terrible reads lets pocket him rn"

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:20 am
by DkKoba
ok sorry that was probably too far but trying to get u to pull ur head out the sand and see what im seeing here

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:20 am
by Gimli son of Glóin
In post 488, clidd wrote: I can agree on Raya/Ahsoka being on town PoE, but horsewoman is a slot that you should probably revisit, it's not someone I'm very confident about.
I ISO'd her again yesterday and I came out of it with an equally strong impression that she is town. And yes it'd be so much easier if she was actually playing the game but I don't think it's scummy that she isn't. I don't think this game presents a challenge for scum to come and post.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:22 am
by DkKoba
gimli. why is clidd town to you.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:23 am
by DkKoba
In post 503, Horsewoman wrote:
In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
In post 478, DkKoba wrote:
In post 477, Not_Mafia wrote:Radja/horsewoman/Gimli
the way this is my exact GtH solve rn :oops:
This sort of interaction is the sort I'd usually say wouldn't be between two scum but I think it has a high chance of being so here. That's because the setup of 3 scum out of 9 heavily incentivizes the scum to buddy up and stick together, because if all 3 are going the same way they only need 2 town to join them. So basically I'm saying that bussing is incredibly unlikely and scum overtly allying is much more possible.
actually even better question

who thinks this post is even remotely towny