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[Smoke and Mirrors]

DON'T SAY YOUR GUESS NOW. JUST KNOW.

ALSO I'M TERRIBLE AT KEEPING THINGS HIDDEN HEHEHEHEHE

OMG! I absolutely know who this is now. <3

[Cupcake Butterfly]

(I am legit having a hard time getting into this game tho; it is undoubtedly the worst towngame I've had in a very very very long time. I genuinely wouldn't mind being voted out especially if there were an autowin or damn near close to one.)

By worst towngame, do you mean how you view the town's ability this game, or your ability to navigate it?

[Cupcake Butterfly]

DON'T SAY YOUR GUESS NOW. JUST KNOW.

ALSO I'M TERRIBLE AT KEEPING THINGS HIDDEN HEHEHEHEHE

OMG! I absolutely know who this is now. <3

EEEEEEEEEE!

is your enthusiasm AI because now I want to towbloc with you trshegawrfhrge

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Have more time now.

Nancy, guess my main.

Having issues reading into people here. VFP and Flea are town though and it would take a lot to convince me they are scum. Marci is decent too.

Smoke and Distance are two of my SRs at this point in the game.

I get the idea that VFP/Flea are the same alignment but I'm not ready to call that town. Why are you comfortable saying so?

Also I don't think Kyouko or his voters have given me much passing thought, which does not instill confidence.

I am comfortable saying so because in my past games townies had a very similar tone and played similarly. Maybe this logic is flawed?

This is interesting since Flea flipped town but I’m not confident on VFP town.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

DON'T SAY YOUR GUESS NOW. JUST KNOW.

ALSO I'M TERRIBLE AT KEEPING THINGS HIDDEN HEHEHEHEHE

OMG! I absolutely know who this is now. <3

EEEEEEEEEE!

is your enthusiasm AI because now I want to towbloc with you trshegawrfhrge

I not only love playing town, I love getting a scumflip d1, so I was so happy when I saw that flip.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Yeah real life got in the way.

VFP seems quite town to me, personally. He has been quite helpful and just generally smelled town.

I’m town.

I don't like this.

Regardless of whatever VFP is, this reason for tr him was absolute shit.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Weekend stuff.

UNVOTE: Gamma

Kitty may be scum for multiple reasons. I'll think when I'm on.

Were you not aware of the deadline?

[Cupcake Butterfly]

Does redacted mean it was over 500?

I was about to take credit for making scum crumble!
Then I realised my vote didn't go through.

These are the only two posts where I felt "ehh" on with VFP thus far in the dayphase, and even then they don't immediately feel like good reasons. Post 469 sounds performative in wanting to get credit for the Kitty lim so it's easier for them to target the outside-wagoners ~possibly~ to protect a scum-partner on-wagon... but this reality sounds both far-fetched and off very fickle reasoning that I wouldn't even think to assert.

VFP campaigned for

Flea

, and Imaginality campaigned for

me

... I can't speak to a town or scum-specific trend of play here, but I don't think either VFP or Imaginality have tried to pocket me/Flea moreso than putting their eggs in a basket outside of their own. I like that good faith sign.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Weekend stuff.

UNVOTE: Gamma

Kitty may be scum for multiple reasons. I'll think when I'm on.

Were you not aware of the deadline?

This post doesn’t inspire me with confidence because it’s easy to shade a buddy but not vote them.

[Cupcake Butterfly]

Kitty-VFP-Gamma has crossed my mind but what do you think about the defense of that here?

Unless the scum team is exactly me, Gamma, and Kitty, scum Gamma has no reason to stay on Kitty instead of moving over to me.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Gylyx doesn't do a VC on a flip normally I think.

VOTE: MistyxVOTE:

I also don't think Marci is scum here.

What is this non-vote on Misty for?

[Cupcake Butterfly]

also kyouko catches my attention, they're very competent in a setup like this but jury is still out for me on whether it's powerplaying town or calculating scum.

not intentionally trying to doubtcast, but i dont want to check mark them without grilling them first

[Cupcake Butterfly]

holy shit imagine if alisae stayed in this game, i wouldve faded into LHF

[mastina]

DON'T SAY YOUR GUESS NOW. JUST KNOW.
ALSO I'M TERRIBLE AT KEEPING THINGS HIDDEN HEHEHEHEHE

Oh if that's the case.

VOTE: Cupcake Butterfly

I don't think this is the toucan's towngame.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Kitty-VFP-Gamma has crossed my mind but what do you think about the defense of that here?

Unless the scum team is exactly me, Gamma, and Kitty, scum Gamma has no reason to stay on Kitty instead of moving over to me.

I hard tr Alisae because eir pretty decent as scum, so e looked like over eager town to me. I think Gamma is pretty obviously town here.

[Cupcake Butterfly]

DON'T SAY YOUR GUESS NOW. JUST KNOW.
ALSO I'M TERRIBLE AT KEEPING THINGS HIDDEN HEHEHEHEHE

Oh if that's the case.

VOTE: Cupcake Butterfly

I don't think this is the toucan's towngame.

noooooo bad mastina, you always vote me when im on an alt

THIS HAPPENED TO LADY CHLOE TOO

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Gamma
Mastina
Distance
Misty

I think are all town. My read hasn’t changed on Misty but the replace out is the only reason she’s not #1. I will probably put her back there once I see the replacement.

[mastina]

(I am legit having a hard time getting into this game tho; it is undoubtedly the worst towngame I've had in a very very very long time. I genuinely wouldn't mind being voted out especially if there were an autowin or damn near close to one.)

By worst towngame, do you mean how you view the town's ability this game, or your ability to navigate it?

My ability to navigate it.

I'm literally deadweight, I'm literally worthless.

I don't have real thoughts, I don't have real reasons, I've barely posted at all so I can't be obvtown either, I don't see how I could look town and I don't see how I can really be helping town.

I can say that I think the wagon on scum D1 was all town--it was not a full 7 elimination but rather a plurality elimination. While it's possible scum forgot about plurality and didn't realize the elimination would go through, I find it more likely that the names on the wagon were all town. This would be good analysis if I were the first one to point it out (I immediately upon the scumflip thought "okay this entire wagon is town"), but by the time I got around to this thread no less than two other people had beaten me to the punch in making that exact conclusion.

I can say that I feel that MistyX is town, but I've legit got nothing to back that, other than just liking MistyX and smiling at their contributions and liking them and thinking the interactions came from town.

I can say that I am trusting the collective townreads on ssbm and buy the choice in items as being a fairly protown approach, but I am also not unique in this with everyone having already said as much pretty much.

I don't have any actual meaningful tangible contribution to give, so I feel worthless. I wasn't on the D1 scum elimination, I've barely posted, I've done just about zero anything. Heck even me calling Flea town was purely me trying hard to force a read off of feelings more than evidence so I don't even really deserve credit for getting that read right.

I AM trying tho, I'm just, not doing as well as I want to.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I was about to take credit for making scum crumble!
Then I realised my vote didn't go through.

Where did you vote Kitty? I couldn’t find a post where you voted or tried to.

[Cupcake Butterfly]

Going to bed but I will get into this tomorrow night more

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Having issues reading into people here. VFP and Flea are town though and it would take a lot to convince me they are scum. Marci is decent too.

Smoke and Distance are two of my SRs at this point in the game.

I can’t help but wonder if Flea was killed for bidding cop or to confirm VFP.

I just can’t help thinking there’s possible associatives between those two.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I was about to take credit for making scum crumble!
Then I realised my vote didn't go through.

Gylyx doesn't do a VC on a flip normally I think.

VOTE: MistyxVOTE:

I also don't think Marci is scum here.

Hmmm . . .

[mastina]

Btw iso'ing Flea, unless the scumteam is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus not to pull such a n00bscum move, I'm thinking Flea was killed because the scumteam thought Flea was either a role or because the scumteam thought Flea was just that obvtown and were threatened by faer. (As far as I can tell, Flea gave suspicion to only cyrus and maybe imaginality. So the possibilities are; either cyrus is scum and killed Flea as the main threat to him and wasn't told to not do this by his scumbuddy, or Flea wasn't killed for faer reads, leaving the possibilities as "pr hunt" or "threat due to Flea being Flea".)

If it is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus better, then the most likely option would be VFP (tho I suppose marcistar would be possible).

If it is someone who thought Flea was a threat in general and/or Flea was a PR, I'd say it's Cupcake Butterfly + VFP (tho I suppose marcistar's possible if marcistar has played with Flea before).

POE-wise that'd imply to me that VFP is scum regardless tho, so I guess back to here;
VOTE: VFP

Am open to other thoughts here tho.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I was about to take credit for making scum crumble!
Then I realised my vote didn't go through.

Gylyx doesn't do a VC on a flip normally I think.

VOTE: MistyxVOTE:

I also don't think Marci is scum here.

Hmmm . . .

@VFP I would think that if your alleged vote on Kitty didn’t actually go through, you would have either made it a point of correctly voting Misty or clarifying that it wasn’t a real vote but a placeholder. It would be an extremely strange vote even if it was real but this makes me think, you’re trying to convince us that you really did vote for Kitty when you didn’t.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Btw iso'ing Flea, unless the scumteam is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus not to pull such a n00bscum move, I'm thinking Flea was killed because the scumteam thought Flea was either a role or because the scumteam thought Flea was just that obvtown and were threatened by faer. (As far as I can tell, Flea gave suspicion to only cyrus and maybe imaginality. So the possibilities are; either cyrus is scum and killed Flea as the main threat to him and wasn't told to not do this by his scumbuddy, or Flea wasn't killed for faer reads, leaving the possibilities as "pr hunt" or "threat due to Flea being Flea".)

If it is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus better, then the most likely option would be VFP (tho I suppose marcistar would be possible).

If it is someone who thought Flea was a threat in general and/or Flea was a PR, I'd say it's Cupcake Butterfly + VFP (tho I suppose marcistar's possible if marcistar has played with Flea before).

POE-wise that'd imply to me that VFP is scum regardless tho, so I guess back to here;
VOTE: VFP

Am open to other thoughts here tho.

VOTE: VFP

I think you’re right and the fake vote on Misty looks extremely sus to me, especially after claiming his Kitty vote didn’t go through.