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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:01 pm
by Kate Bishop
Just because Luke’s scummier doesn’t mean Marci is town

She did get better once she settled in tho

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:02 pm
by unwnd
I think Marci hasn't done much to change for me, only that I will give her time

Luke got time and then did nothing with it

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:04 pm
by Kate Bishop
In post 498, Cabd wrote:If i was in f3 with Luke and Marci, i'd vote Luke thrice right now. But i'm not.
get out of my head.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:04 pm
by Cabd
In post 502, Kate Bishop wrote:
In post 498, Cabd wrote:If i was in f3 with Luke and Marci, i'd vote Luke thrice right now. But i'm not.
get out of my head.
Nu-uh it's comfy in here.

I'm subleasing space and making great rent premiums.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:05 pm
by unwnd
In post 499, Toogeloo wrote:Didn't know the VC was wrong until GiF said he wasn't the L-2 vote. In fact I didn't even see the vote count. I just saw the vote, and I was already keeping track in my head.

I don't really town read anyone on my wagon. Y'all are a bunch of opportunistic mother huggers.

Anyways, since unwnd claimed intent, I'll go ahead and claim that my role is confirmable, and that I crumbed my flavor in my first and second post, Sadou Maou.
Anyone you do townread?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:05 pm
by Cabd
Also pretty sure EVERYONE in this game is "conformable" in some way? Feels like that kind of game.

Smalltown vibes, a bit.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:10 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 504, unwnd wrote:Anyone you do townread?
Maybe DGB.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:11 pm
by unwnd
That's an odd read to me

I just feel like saying 'I townread none of the people wagoning me' is a little shortsigthed, you don't think someone can just be wrong and not necessarily scum? The mob isn't as threatening as you're making it out to be

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:15 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 507, unwnd wrote:That's an odd read to me

I just feel like saying 'I townread none of the people wagoning me' is a little shortsigthed, you don't think someone can just be wrong and not necessarily scum? The mob isn't as threatening as you're making it out to be
Why should I town read someone who is voting me because they didn't think I crumbed post 1, someone who is power driving a paranoia case on me because I'm not willing to town read their slot on claim alone, and 3 people sheeping said power driver, one of which who admitted to not efforting and much and just giving their vote.

Nothing any of the 5 voters has done has inspired me to draw a town read from them.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:16 pm
by unwnd
But surely one of them is misguided, yeah? No way there's 5 scum just voting you

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:17 pm
by Toogeloo
Obviously.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:18 pm
by unwnd
What do you think of the other reads being thrown out? I stated that I think Lukewarm/Marci probably has scum in it, for example

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:24 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 465, Cabd wrote:Can we like, ACTUALLY talk about that marcistar read though, Luke?

I got the exact opposite impression from her replies to unwnd, they sort of reminded me of my first large theme.

What data do you have that makes you feel otherwise?
Her lack of a presence early on. Especially , which felt like something she said in Tarot ? (this may be wrong, I have not gotten a chance to look back, but it felt that way)

And then when Unwnd did get content from her, we got

Which, I omgus'ed her for. Specifically
In post 279, marcistar wrote:i was a bit concerned about 16, since im not sure if i like how luke reached out to me specifically.
Which from my pov, felt wrong. I have played more games with Marci then anyone else on site (except T3 lol), and I generally start out talking directly with her in every game that we play in (as both alignments). And if felt extra weird, because I specifically talked her into playing this game with us, and she clearly immediately got the joke I was making, and played along in post

So it kind of felt like she got put on the spot by unwnd, and just needed something to say, and drew that out of a hat to be suspicious of vs a concern that she actually had.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:24 pm
by Toogeloo
Well, considering I'm not really a fan of Luke, you might be right. Honestly, I didn't pay attention to any cases on anyone else. The Votals look like vanity wagons on anyone not named Toog.

I mostly just been skimming through the day though and mostly just trying to focus on responding to people aiming things at me.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:25 pm
by unwnd
Erm, convinced so soon?

What's your individual reason to not like Luke if I may ask

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:26 pm
by Kate Bishop
{Dunn.......Cabd, GIF}
{Rhiannon, DGB(?)} DGB feels right on this tier but it's not as solid other reads to this point
{Wheme, marci.......manatee} niggles about manatee's role, but eh
{Unwnd} true null
{Luke}
{ssbm, Toog(?)}

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This is synced, but my reads are awfully fluid.

Toog's in flux. I feel like he's doing AI stuff now, maybe? Most of his posts from that LLD sus onward haven't sat right. I have a feeling Nacho would tell me this is town toog, but I never totally nailed down what makes town toog town to Nacho.

Maybe ssbm is where I'll want to vote.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:29 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 514, unwnd wrote:Erm, convinced so soon?

What's your individual reason to not like Luke if I may ask
I wouldn't say convinced. It's more like an obvious conclusion based on my previous statements.

Luke vote on me is just opportunistic and more of a sheep vote.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:31 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 516, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 514, unwnd wrote:Erm, convinced so soon?

What's your individual reason to not like Luke if I may ask
I wouldn't say convinced. It's more like an obvious conclusion based on my previous statements.

Luke vote on me is just opportunistic and more of a sheep vote.
I would not call my vote a sheep vote. I saw your post, and thought it was scummy, and voted you before I even got to the point that LLD voted you for it.

That post looked more like someone in a mind set of "don't let town blocks form" then someone who looked at her posts and decided if it was town or not.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:33 pm
by unwnd
I think Toog's disgust is pointed and not really scummy. I wasn't fond of them writing off the wagon and going 'lol everyone is scummy' but I don't see anything I particularly hate in our exchange. I would give them more leniency just by being quick to establish their role, which puts them into a self-resolving at this rate

Let's vote here instead

VOTE: Kyouko

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:36 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 518, unwnd wrote:I would give them more leniency just by being quick to establish their role, which puts them into a self-resolving at this rate
What do you mean by self resolving here?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:39 pm
by unwnd
It means that Toog has put themselves in a position where actions will resolve them, given they've already hinted to what they are. No, they didn't state a power or anything like that, and I'm well aware it's role madness upick. However, the moment you hint you can do something is the moment I expect something, meaning I can get a read out of it.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:53 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 515, Kate Bishop wrote:{Dunn.......Cabd, GIF}
{Rhiannon, DGB(?)} DGB feels right on this tier but it's not as solid other reads to this point
{Wheme, marci.......manatee} niggles about manatee's role, but eh
{Unwnd} true null
{Luke}
{ssbm, Toog(?)}

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This is synced, but my reads are awfully fluid.

Toog's in flux. I feel like he's doing AI stuff now, maybe? Most of his posts from that LLD sus onward haven't sat right. I have a feeling Nacho would tell me this is town toog, but I never totally nailed down what makes town toog town to Nacho.

Maybe ssbm is where I'll want to vote.
[LLD, Cabd, Kate Bishop]
[Manatee, Unwnd, GIF, Marci]
[Wheme, Luke, DGB]
[SSBM, Toog]

With the caveat that I don't think anyone in the top tier is super far out of scum range, these are early feelings mainly based on tone and claims.
Cautiously putting Unwnd and Marci above null for unexplained reasons

I don't have any sort of feeling about Wheme//Luke right now, so they're at null

I didn't like the SSBM pop-in and only talking about the claims
Toog claiming to be confirmable doesn't do anything for me.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:06 pm
by Dunnstral
I'll actually go ahead and say that it doesn't feel like there is a lot of AI stuff from Kate Bishop until they start talking about SSBM and posting reads

Or at least, not that I understand, but 1 on 1 interaction is different from general thread interaction

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:33 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 506, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 504, unwnd wrote:Anyone you do townread?
Maybe DGB.
Why? I don't recall dropping town tells.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:36 pm
by Dunnstral
You're the one person who called him town.