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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:01 am
by skitter30
In post 498, Prism wrote:Shockingly my reads are mostly aligned with skitter's, minus Ydrasse who is a townlean and maybe Dwlee who is solidly null for me.

My reasoning differs on Gamma, who I'm voting for like three different reasons. (Scrambling to hit tonal bases early, read on Dwlee, reactions to pushes)
oh gamma's dwlee vote was bad too, i forgot abt that
why is ydrasse a townlean?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:01 am
by Dwlee99
Infinity is scummy, skitter's post is less scummy, but if infinity is scum it reads like a way to distance without actually pushing. Also the gamma vote. Gamma probably is town

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:02 am
by Infinity 324
In post 498, Prism wrote:Scrambling to hit tonal bases early
can you give quotes for this?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:02 am
by Prism
I'd rather not have an extended dialogue about Ydrasse today, sorry. Maybe another gameday.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:03 am
by Prism
In post 502, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 498, Prism wrote:Scrambling to hit tonal bases early
can you give quotes for this?
No because I'm on my phone.

Here's his ISO. Not hard to see, go down the first like 6 posts.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:03 am
by skitter30
In post 501, Dwlee99 wrote:Infinity is scummy, skitter's post is less scummy, but if infinity is scum it reads like a way to distance without actually pushing. Also the gamma vote. Gamma probably is town
i find gamma scummier than infinity rn, but i am more than happy to vote infinity as well
(also the fact that infinity is not really responding to my read is, uh, Not Good)
why is gamma probably town?

and pedit @prism fair enuf.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:04 am
by Infinity 324
skitt i have nothing to respond to

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:05 am
by skitter30
???

how do u think i should be reading u here?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:06 am
by Infinity 324
In post 507, skitter30 wrote:???

how do u think i should be reading u here?
idk you read me wrong in radio buzz i'm not really planning to try to sort you until lategame anyway

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:07 am
by skitter30
uh this is a weirdly muted reaction to me scumreading you ...

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:08 am
by Prism
In post 501, Dwlee99 wrote:Infinity is scummy, skitter's post is less scummy, but if infinity is scum it reads like a way to distance without actually pushing. Also the gamma vote. Gamma probably is town
I eagerly await the case for Gamma town with what is on the table in this game.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:08 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 498, Prism wrote:Shockingly my reads are mostly aligned with skitter's, minus Ydrasse who is a townlean and maybe Dwlee who is solidly null for me.

My reasoning differs on Gamma, who I'm voting for like three different reasons. (Scrambling to hit tonal bases early, read on Dwlee, reactions to pushes)
What even is this tonal base shit
Also I don’t believe I’ve had an opinion on Dwlee yet so that feels like a load of crap

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:09 am
by skitter30
i think the gamma tonal bits are probably nai fwiw

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:09 am
by Dwlee99
In post 510, Prism wrote:
In post 501, Dwlee99 wrote:Infinity is scummy, skitter's post is less scummy, but if infinity is scum it reads like a way to distance without actually pushing. Also the gamma vote. Gamma probably is town
I eagerly await the case for Gamma town with what is on the table in this game.
Gamma can be scummy as town

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:10 am
by Infinity 324
In post 509, skitter30 wrote:uh this is a weirdly muted reaction to me scumreading you ...
yeah there are a lot of reasons for this, a lot of it is that after radio buzz and perpetual melo i've felt a lot less confident in sorting you and sorting you based on your read on me specifically

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:10 am
by Infinity 324
In post 512, skitter30 wrote:i think the gamma tonal bits are probably nai fwiw
i agree with this

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:11 am
by Gamma Emerald
Okay that’s like one of the dumbest things to think I’m scum for, I just go “I think I can frame this maybe-so thing as hard evidence”? Bruh

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:11 am
by skitter30
so how do you differentiate between 'scum scummy gamma' and 'town scummy gamma'
i.e. why does being scummy here make him more likely to be town than scum?

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:14 am
by Prism
In post 511, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 498, Prism wrote:Shockingly my reads are mostly aligned with skitter's, minus Ydrasse who is a townlean and maybe Dwlee who is solidly null for me.

My reasoning differs on Gamma, who I'm voting for like three different reasons. (Scrambling to hit tonal bases early, read on Dwlee, reactions to pushes)
What even is this tonal base shit
Also I don’t believe I’ve had an opinion on Dwlee yet so that feels like a load of crap
We have previously discussed my expectations for your scum gamestarts in Coalition. You have even referenced our discussion in other games. The fast joking around with the stronger players at the table are a redflag to me, especially when some of them don't even seem to make sense (peta's response pointed out you just had a win over him, though perhaps something qualitatively about that game negates that)

For dwlee, I am referring to the read/reasoning given in 276. I will speak again of this at a later date.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:14 am
by skitter30
that was for dwlee ^

and infinity, ig i'm used to town-you strongly pushing back when i call u scum (esp. if you think i ought to be townreading you), but here you're just kinda accepting the read and not really having any sort of reaction

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:16 am
by Prism
In post 513, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 510, Prism wrote:
In post 501, Dwlee99 wrote:Infinity is scummy, skitter's post is less scummy, but if infinity is scum it reads like a way to distance without actually pushing. Also the gamma vote. Gamma probably is town
I eagerly await the case for Gamma town with what is on the table in this game.
Gamma can be scummy as town
I am very familiar with Gamma. I have not misread Gamma in a single game we have played together on the scale of something like 10 games.

It would help if, rather than presenting a possible world where I am wrong, you justify
your
read on Gamma.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:16 am
by Dwlee99
In post 517, skitter30 wrote:so how do you differentiate between 'scum scummy gamma' and 'town scummy gamma'
i.e. why does being scummy here make him more likely to be town than scum?
Idk throw a dart at a wall? Only half joking

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:17 am
by Infinity 324
In post 519, skitter30 wrote:that was for dwlee ^

and infinity, ig i'm used to town-you strongly pushing back when i call u scum (esp. if you think i ought to be townreading you), but here you're just kinda accepting the read and not really having any sort of reaction
the other thing is that i don't think i've been super towny this game. i don't think i'm trying to look town but that's a hard thing to identify in other players

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:18 am
by Dwlee99
The point about the comment seeming like it was something I could have heard from a scum partner was sort of mindmeldy cause it was exactly what I expected him to point out about my comment but I'm trying to remember if he was in the game that would have made my brain jump to that

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:18 am
by Prism
Are you going to apply any rigor whatsoever to your own reads or continue to shoot down those of skitter and myself because your gut tells you skitter/Infinity and therefore Gamma is town and there's no reason to delve into the questions more deeply?