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I mentally blocked off Enchant

I said earlier that they are currently unreadable and I stand by that. Maybe staying unreadable is scummy. It's not clear to me why they think they need to choose carefully in 412, or what they mean by 'fearless'

i know that this also might be a fruitless endeavor, but @enchant, how come you did not accept the proposal?

i feel townpings on malakittens for possibly dumb reasons, we'll see

In post 492, mykonian wrote:So look at enchants iso. It doesn't discuss other players yet. Tiniest bit of judgement with regards to mechanics. But there is no threat of elimination today, no way to force them to open up.

I proposed and in a way forced them to judge me. Not accepting the offer yet is one suggestion of a read enchant may have, though they only suggest my proposal is "fearless" in some way. They didn't say "no".

mmm, do you usually "dance around" (pun intended) other players like this? what i mean, you give off the vibe of wanting to get a better read on enchant and get them to react to something, but at the same time it feels like you're talking them rather than them. in a newer player i'd consider that behaviour flat-out scummy, but 2008 join date is not really that.

In post 501, Datisi wrote:i know that this also might be a fruitless endeavor, but @enchant, how come you did not accept the proposal?

I don't want to pair with potential town.

but why

In post 498, Datisi wrote:

In post 496, mykonian wrote:Do you fancy being the hammer, Dat?

if you knew a single thing about me, you'd know that the answer to that question is "nope no fucking way get that hammer away from me"

I suspect I left before you joined.

I look forward to you being the hammer then, that should be enlightening!

i'm still catching up so excuse dumb questions if it's already been answered, but what's with the "i have no incentive to pair with town" in 492?

We can't eliminate a lady today, even the scummiest will make it. I don't mind scumreading them in a quicktopic either.

The biggest downside is likely not being in a position of choice after a nightkill. But that's what discussion is for anyway.

both enchant and myko have no desire to pair with town

sounds like a match to me

In post 504, Enchant wrote:
I don't want to pair with potential town.

You want scum to be left out, remember.

In post 507, Datisi wrote:both enchant and myko have no desire to pair with town

sounds like a match to me

I would have had I been a lady.

Now I'm in the annoying position with reads but not much in the way of acting on them for any gain.

In post 505, Dunnstral wrote:but why

I get too much heat at day.

Accept the proposal and you can take yourself out of today. We might even have a private chat.

In post 506, mykonian wrote:I don't mind scumreading them in a quicktopic either.

there is like, a whole lesson on "but you do understand it's better to pair with townier people if you're town because they have better odds of being town and therefore that's better for the town wincon because fypov you are lessening the odds of towns getting yeeted" here somewhere but idk if it's actually worth getting into right now

If I could yeet scum yes.

Can you sense my frustration yet?

In post 511, mykonian wrote:Accept the proposal and you can take yourself out of today. We might even have a private chat.

Give me benefit in pairing with you.

Part of it is in the quote. You take yourself out of the equation.

Me, I am quite open in talking and I think town although you might find me oldfashioned and still a bit impulsive/reckless on top?

Which makes for a great dancepartner, I'd say? At least I'm exotic.

If you want to torture self, no gonna stop you.

this pairing is a whatever pairing to me

enchant could be town myko ... eh?

not the worst

i think luke is a little towny for the presentation of his notes like

kind of feel if he was scum he would just share them upfront

maybe it’s good press to have his notes ready and available when someone asks to feel more like ... idk natural or something but even then that feels silly

he feels okay if i take him at face value of not wanting to be as high energy

In post 489, mykonian wrote:It's the first choice enchant makes this game, something good came from it. Though they didn't say as much :/. Fearless? Hardly, we wouldn't be lovers.

You are not lovers in the traditional sense, but during the voting phase you are voted out together. So I think that Enchant is saying that it is dangerous to pair with him, because he is likely to get voted out, therefore pairing with him would make you fearless. That follows with this post

In post 504, Enchant wrote:

In post 501, Datisi wrote:i know that this also might be a fruitless endeavor, but @enchant, how come you did not accept the proposal?

I don't want to pair with potential town.

On the surface, this looks like a decent strategy for a LHF townie. Pair with your top scum read, so that if/when people scum read you, you are taking that person down with you. Prism/Ydra were talking about this strategy for a mafia to do, but it looks like enchant was thinking about doing it as a townie.

In post 494, Datisi wrote:

In post 405, Lukewarm wrote:and I thought maybe tethering myself to fire could help keep him from getting miselimed later.

???

you are aware you're not like, a very popular townread this game, right?

I am aware. But I also know that until recently I have basically never been miseliminated. So, I do still have a "I am hard to miseliminate" mindset for myself. Maybe that is a dumb way to think about it given that I am playing differently, but I really don't know the best way to pick a dance partner, and that was an idea that I had to try and apply a strategy to the decision.

In post 510, Enchant wrote:

In post 505, Dunnstral wrote:but why

I get too much heat at day.

In post 511, mykonian wrote:Accept the proposal and you can take yourself out of today. We might even have a private chat.

I find it interesting that myko does not seem to realize Enchant's logic, when he kinda spelled it all out.

I want to say that it is scummy for him to not be thinking through Enchant's posts while simultaneously trying to get enchant to dance with him for the stated purpose of making enchant more readable - but I also don't really see the scum benefit of trying so hard to get enchant as a dance partner. That would likely be an actually dangerous choice for scum. Unless he didn't like his odds of not getting left behind?

In post 517, Ydrasse wrote:this pairing is a whatever pairing to me

enchant could be town myko ... eh?

not the worst

I can’t really think of a worse pairing.

you don't townread any of them, what's the issue

It literally just occurred to me that enchant was never dying this day phase. Because there are less ladies than gentleman.
There comes a time when I must reflect about my set up laziness and general lack of grounding in the games I’m in.
Today is not that day.