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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:07 am
by T-Bone
But hear me out. Pagetop.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:09 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 490, T-Bone wrote:
In post 464, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:
In post 463, T-Bone wrote:
In post 421, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:STD said signatures don't count.
:lol:

What a fake post restriction if I've ever saw one.
Which part?
If signatures don't count, why not use them every post? In the very few posts you've made I don't feel like you've been either careful with your words or consistent in your application. It looks like to me you're making it up on the fly (or that you and your partner didn't agree how to fake the restriction).

I'm skeptical for other reasons that I'll discuss with the other players, but we can start there.

Look, I am aware that if the restriction is real I risk wasting your word counts or whatever, and you're limited in your ability to explain... :left: but how everyone else reacted is exactly how you would want if you were faking a restriction. Sorry, thems the breaks.
If they were going to fake a restriction though, wouldn't you expect them to be doubly sure how they were going to go about it before committing? It strikes me as an especially convoluted and weird thing for a hydra to make up in particular on D1, when coordinating a hydra can be a difficult job anyway, especially if said hydra is scum. And given the size of the game, being able to successfully coast through D1 could be of limited advantage anyway considering there'll likely be lots of phases.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:09 am
by Enchant
Why EVER fake restrictions.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:11 am
by Galron
In post 491, T-Bone wrote:100 word post restriction in a 26 player game
Doesn't exist but nai for Irchjer

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:12 am
by Frogsterking
In post 496, Enchant wrote:Did you just pull all lurkers in list.
That's a correlation != causation. It's players who aren't getting townread by myself or my townreads. I'm hoping a few of those players will say more and get ruled out.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:12 am
by Galron
In post 493, Frogsterking wrote:Enchant, Ceph, Johnny, BlueBlooded, Bella, C&G, Galron, Dwlee, Corwin, Roden, DancingPuppets

are where I'm most expecting to get a successful D1 hit, based on PoE combined from myself and the players I (relatively) trust.

Right now I'm most interested in any takes which can help narrow down that pool of 11, including elaboration from those players themselves.

PEdit:

If Rh9 rolled scum and they love to talk then they can talk in the scum PT.
super safe poe, p much all lhf

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:14 am
by Galron
In post 504, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 496, Enchant wrote:Did you just pull all lurkers in list.
That's a correlation != causation. It's players who aren't getting townread by myself or my townreads. I'm hoping a few of those players will say more and get ruled out.
Who values a townread from scum?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:14 am
by Galron
Malcom why digging in so hard for Luke?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:16 am
by T-Bone
In post 501, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 490, T-Bone wrote:
In post 464, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:
In post 463, T-Bone wrote:
In post 421, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:STD said signatures don't count.
:lol:

What a fake post restriction if I've ever saw one.
Which part?
If signatures don't count, why not use them every post? In the very few posts you've made I don't feel like you've been either careful with your words or consistent in your application. It looks like to me you're making it up on the fly (or that you and your partner didn't agree how to fake the restriction).

I'm skeptical for other reasons that I'll discuss with the other players, but we can start there.

Look, I am aware that if the restriction is real I risk wasting your word counts or whatever, and you're limited in your ability to explain... :left: but how everyone else reacted is exactly how you would want if you were faking a restriction. Sorry, thems the breaks.
If they were going to fake a restriction though, wouldn't you expect them to be doubly sure how they were going to go about it before committing? It strikes me as an especially convoluted and weird thing for a hydra to make up in particular on D1, when coordinating a hydra can be a difficult job anyway, especially if said hydra is scum. And given the size of the game, being able to successfully coast through D1 could be of limited advantage anyway considering there'll likely be lots of phases.
The mistakes are the reason I decided to call attention to it. I was suspicious when I first saw it but wasn't gonna bring it up right away. Maybe I should have let them make a few more mistakes before I said anything but that's on me.
Enchant wrote:Why EVER fake restrictions.
To make players like you ask that question rhetorically as if it was self evident they were town.

If you find yourself asking why would (player) do (thing) if they were scum...then my friend you are the gullible target audience.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:16 am
by Frogsterking
In post 506, Galron wrote:
In post 504, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 496, Enchant wrote:Did you just pull all lurkers in list.
That's a correlation != causation. It's players who aren't getting townread by myself or my townreads. I'm hoping a few of those players will say more and get ruled out.
Who values a townread from scum?
This is a strawman, I'm valuing townreads from the players I read as town.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:18 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 507, Galron wrote:Malcom why digging in so hard for Luke?
I wouldn't say I've dug in particularly hard so far as such - just that I'm getting a decent town vibe from them. I wasn't keen on Frogster's push where they basically backed off at the same time but that was more me being suspicious of Frogster than anything else. But, of course, if Frogster is scum feels unlikely they'd want to throw any shade onto Luke at all this early in the game if Luke was a teammate. What's your feeling on Lukewarm yourself?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:19 am
by Galron
In post 509, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 506, Galron wrote:
In post 504, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 496, Enchant wrote:Did you just pull all lurkers in list.
That's a correlation != causation. It's players who aren't getting townread by myself or my townreads. I'm hoping a few of those players will say more and get ruled out.
Who values a townread from scum?
This is a strawman, I'm valuing townreads from the players I read as town.
Forgive me, but a townread from you is not on my checklist for today.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:20 am
by Galron
In post 510, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 507, Galron wrote:Malcom why digging in so hard for Luke?
I wouldn't say I've dug in particularly hard so far as such - just that I'm getting a decent town vibe from them. I wasn't keen on Frogster's push where they basically backed off at the same time but that was more me being suspicious of Frogster than anything else. But, of course, if Frogster is scum feels unlikely they'd want to throw any shade onto Luke at all this early in the game if Luke was a teammate. What's your feeling on Lukewarm yourself?
Luke started very serious out of the gate, like rvs didn't exist. Too much caffeine?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:23 am
by Frogsterking
In post 511, Galron wrote:
In post 509, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 506, Galron wrote:
In post 504, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 496, Enchant wrote:Did you just pull all lurkers in list.
That's a correlation != causation. It's players who aren't getting townread by myself or my townreads. I'm hoping a few of those players will say more and get ruled out.
Who values a townread from scum?
This is a strawman, I'm valuing townreads from the players I read as town.
Forgive me, but a townread from you is not on my checklist for today.
Okay, what's your point though? You're the one who felt a need to bring it up.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:30 am
by Galron
In post 513, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 511, Galron wrote:
In post 509, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 506, Galron wrote:
In post 504, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 496, Enchant wrote:Did you just pull all lurkers in list.
That's a correlation != causation. It's players who aren't getting townread by myself or my townreads. I'm hoping a few of those players will say more and get ruled out.
Who values a townread from scum?
This is a strawman, I'm valuing townreads from the players I read as town.
Forgive me, but a townread from you is not on my checklist for today.
Okay, what's your point though? You're the one who felt a need to bring it up.
Your poe is trash. You're probably scum. Why would I want a townread from scum?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:36 am
by Lukewarm
In post 507, Galron wrote:Malcom why digging in so hard for Luke?
Galron, I am confused by this.

Are you asking why Malcom thinks it is hard for me to dig in?

Can you tell me what led to that question, because pretty sure that Malcolm never said that about me

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:39 am
by Lukewarm
In post 512, Galron wrote:
In post 510, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 507, Galron wrote:Malcom why digging in so hard for Luke?
I wouldn't say I've dug in particularly hard so far as such - just that I'm getting a decent town vibe from them. I wasn't keen on Frogster's push where they basically backed off at the same time but that was more me being suspicious of Frogster than anything else. But, of course, if Frogster is scum feels unlikely they'd want to throw any shade onto Luke at all this early in the game if Luke was a teammate. What's your feeling on Lukewarm yourself?
Luke started very serious out of the gate, like rvs didn't exist. Too much caffeine?

This is funny to me, because this is the least serious I have taken a game in a while.

I would not say that I was being particularly serious until the moment I did meta on Rad and voted him

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:40 am
by Frogsterking
I'm reading my interaction with Galron as SvT.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:42 am
by Lukewarm
In post 516, Lukewarm wrote:This is funny to me, because this is the least serious I have taken a game in a while.
Meh, I was being non-serious at the start of moderators as well.

But my point stands.

I was have purposefully tried to take this game less seriously, and this is the second time someone said that I was being extra serious early

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:44 am
by Frogsterking
In post 518, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 516, Lukewarm wrote:This is funny to me, because this is the least serious I have taken a game in a while.
Meh, I was being non-serious at the start of moderators as well.

But my point stands.

I was have purposefully tried to take this game less seriously, and this is the second time someone said that I was being extra serious early
Do you think it's more likely to come from mistaken town or scum trying to stir up trouble (or other?)

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:52 am
by Enchant
In post 508, T-Bone wrote:
In post 501, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 490, T-Bone wrote:
In post 464, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:
In post 463, T-Bone wrote:
In post 421, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:STD said signatures don't count.
:lol:

What a fake post restriction if I've ever saw one.
Which part?
If signatures don't count, why not use them every post? In the very few posts you've made I don't feel like you've been either careful with your words or consistent in your application. It looks like to me you're making it up on the fly (or that you and your partner didn't agree how to fake the restriction).

I'm skeptical for other reasons that I'll discuss with the other players, but we can start there.

Look, I am aware that if the restriction is real I risk wasting your word counts or whatever, and you're limited in your ability to explain... :left: but how everyone else reacted is exactly how you would want if you were faking a restriction. Sorry, thems the breaks.
If they were going to fake a restriction though, wouldn't you expect them to be doubly sure how they were going to go about it before committing? It strikes me as an especially convoluted and weird thing for a hydra to make up in particular on D1, when coordinating a hydra can be a difficult job anyway, especially if said hydra is scum. And given the size of the game, being able to successfully coast through D1 could be of limited advantage anyway considering there'll likely be lots of phases.
The mistakes are the reason I decided to call attention to it. I was suspicious when I first saw it but wasn't gonna bring it up right away. Maybe I should have let them make a few more mistakes before I said anything but that's on me.
Enchant wrote:Why EVER fake restrictions.
To make players like you ask that question rhetorically as if it was self evident they were town.

If you find yourself asking why would (player) do (thing) if they were scum...then my friend you are the gullible target audience.
This question comed from perspective, because restriction doesh't even affect.

I believe restriction is real.
Does it make them any townier? Nah.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:54 am
by Lukewarm
In post 519, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 518, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 516, Lukewarm wrote:This is funny to me, because this is the least serious I have taken a game in a while.
Meh, I was being non-serious at the start of moderators as well.

But my point stands.

I was have purposefully tried to take this game less seriously, and this is the second time someone said that I was being extra serious early
Do you think it's more likely to come from mistaken town or scum trying to stir up trouble (or other?)
In post 340, Rad wrote:Luke's ISO reads like it's serious from the start
In post 343, Galron wrote:
In post 340, Rad wrote:Luke's ISO reads like it's serious from the start, and all I really got out of it was 2 bad town reads and a lot of nothing.

Rad's prob town
In post 512, Galron wrote:Luke started very serious out of the gate, like rvs didn't exist. Too much caffeine?
It feels like Galron lifted the idea straight off of Rad.

I don't think that Galron and Rad are scum together, but I think that there is probably scum in the pair.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:58 am
by Lukewarm
My opinion on the Hydra posting restriction, is that if it is real he is likely in a neighborhood with Sun.

That would give the slot an outlet to talk as much as they waty, and a way to keep communicating after they have run out of words (Jin getting Sun to "translate" for him). We also know that there is at least 2 claimed neighborhoods at this point. Could be with Toog, or could be a 3rd hood.

That being said, I don't really have strong feelings about whether the PR restriction being town or scum indicative. I feel like, if it is real, STD had the idea as a way to represent Jin's flavor of struggling to communicate early on in the show before he learned english, and it likely would have been an idea before he randed the flavor alignments.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:02 am
by Enchant
Yep.

Restriction is real. It doesh't change anything alignmentwise.

Btw i am in good mood somehow, so i answer one question directed to me. Probably.

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:05 am
by Lukewarm
In post 523, Enchant wrote:Yep.

Restriction is real. It doesh't change anything alignmentwise.

Btw i am in good mood somehow, so i answer one question directed to me. Probably.
Is your flavor really a rock?