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Post Post #5025 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:57 am

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gg fun game a little town sided I think
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Post Post #5026 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:58 am

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But i maintain that the tells i had an abr were quite good
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Post Post #5027 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:58 am

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I still feel ABR did a tactical replace out here
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Post Post #5028 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:59 am

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:(
ABR betrayed my trust
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Post Post #5029 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:59 am

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Some comments on the game:

This was the first game I've ever designed. Like the game it's based on, I think it's very swingy, but the intent was to create a mafia game that was fun/new/cool, and I hope that I achieved that. I apologize if the game didn't feel balanced or felt unfair in design, that was not my intent. Unfortunately I think with a setup like this, with so many variables, true balance may not really be achievable.

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Post Post #5030 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:00 am

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I thought it was really unique and super flavored!
I think scum definitely should be able to destroy labs to avoid the situation this game ran into
And they need more night power
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Post Post #5031 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:00 am

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In post 5027, SirCakez wrote:I still feel ABR did a tactical replace out here
I reported him :shrug:
Idk if anything came of it tho
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Post Post #5032 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:00 am

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I lied a few :P
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Post Post #5033 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:00 am

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This setup could definitely be run again with some tinkering and changing out the items and events that were hit this game
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Post Post #5034 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:01 am

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Thanks for the game, lilith. I liked the setup quite a lot.
In post 5027, SirCakez wrote:I still feel ABR did a tactical replace out here
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Post Post #5035 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:01 am

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In post 5029, lilith2013 wrote:I apologize if the game didn't feel balanced or felt unfair in design, that was not my intent.
Fwiw i did not feel this way
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Post Post #5036 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:04 am

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I wanna see dead thread!!!!
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Post Post #5037 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:04 am

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I be an impatient potato :P
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Post Post #5038 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:05 am

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In post 5004, lilith2013 wrote:For the Doctor PT and all personal PTs, please let me know if there's anything you'd like to redact within the next (expired on 2020-11-08 15:52:02), and then I'll be releasing all PTs.
this timeline also applies to dead thread, if anyone wants to redact anything.
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Post Post #5039 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:06 am

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In post 4170, Gamma Emerald wrote:Noraa also has a very unique dictionary, jsyk.

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I found this funny btw :P
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Post Post #5040 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:07 am

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In post 5038, lilith2013 wrote:this timeline also applies to dead thread, if anyone wants to redact anything.
got it!
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Post Post #5041 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:08 am

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In post 4591, Tsunami Slayer wrote:
In post 3995, the worst wrote:I think my reads are liek

Gamma

Johnny
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or something
hm

reads list seems ok at this stage, though, other than noraa.

I havent read noraa's iso, but noraa tends to read as town to me when she plays scum. So i dont know why noraa is so low.
This sounded like a scum slip to me but no one pointed it out lel
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Post Post #5042 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:13 am

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In post 5030, SirCakez wrote:I thought it was really unique and super flavored!
I think scum definitely should be able to destroy labs to avoid the situation this game ran into
And they need more night power
thanks for your thoughts!

yeah, I think these points are related to the "converting from Betrayal to a mafia game" issue - how do you account for the known traitor becoming an unknown faction? a lot of the rules on what was private versus public were my attempt to allow the doctors to hide better, so I'd also appreciate any feedback on that aspect as well (ie would it have been better if no stats were public? if you never knew who attacked you? if you never knew who gave you an item?)
In post 5033, SirCakez wrote:This setup could definitely be run again with some tinkering and changing out the items and events that were hit this game
I've redacted any undiscovered rooms from the mod PT so those can all be discovered next time :] it'd be a new Haunt though!
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Post Post #5043 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:22 am

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I really wanna play a round of Betrayal now btw
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Post Post #5044 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:23 am

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do you have tts? :P
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Post Post #5045 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:29 am

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BETRAYAL SQUAD BETRAYAL SQUAD
This setup was an appropriate level of spicy. And given it is a Lilith setup that means it was very, very spicy.

Thank you so much for modding!
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Post Post #5046 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:33 am

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Was fun, thank you.

Also sorry skits and spooks
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Post Post #5047 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:33 am

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thank you for hosting this lilith!! i followed it after i replaced out (sorry again! :<) and it was cool to see how the mechanics came into play and the rooms/items. i think with some tinkering around it could be even more fun to play/watch and i hope it’s ran again!
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Post Post #5048 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:37 am

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mod PT

(note that I started off recording all Items being sent/given in the mod PT, but then transitioned into just checking everyone's PT for their items when I was making the Daystart tables)
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Post Post #5049 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:46 am

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gg. except to abr who was too salty that i rolled good rolls and ragequit.
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