Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Flavor Leaf]

okay i skimmed ydrasse and i kinda think her slot is scum still

If Ydrasse is town, this is Catboi directly doing the same thing they've been doing with other slots, and making it so if Ydrasse were to go away, they'd turn, but if Ydrasse would vote, they'd scum read them.

This post came after Ydrasse brought up the possibility of going to Catboi.

[Flavor Leaf]

i want the day to end but i don't want to acquiesce to FL holding the entire game hostage to push his pet elimination

butter: I think Flavor was the one who put it at E-1 and then Flavor and StD both left the wagon so now it's E-3

It's not even just me.

And that's a bad reason, that's all personal.

The case on Catboi is far stronger than the case everywhere.

And Catboi flipping would actively make me less hyper pushy because im hyper pushy because I see they're scum, and pushing them.

it's not personal, it's behavior i don't want to encourage in general as a way to push a wagon. it's like the opposite of a policy vote.

Yeah, you a possible partner for them anyways, so it's par for the course. Think Klick more likely, but it's something to consider.

[Flavor Leaf]

Cass/Catboi was one of my first pairings for a reason.

[Well Done]

We have 5 days and I intend to use at least 3 of them

I nearly screamed but instead I will contain myself to a simple and whispered

lolwhatthefuck

[Flavor Leaf]

Regardless of whether you/Klick are scum together or not, I think that you presented an invalid reason for why you/Klick cannot be scum together, claiming my theory to be dumb as a result.

On an unrelated note, I didn’t like the implication that if Klick were your scumbuddy he wouldn’t have the autonomy to do something like vote for you without it being your command, but that’s just a separate pet peeve sort of thing.

To elaborate: it is not just "lol scum RVS distancing" (though that tell is

so old

it can probably legally buy alcohol and is almost never accurate) but that klick made a serious effort tostart a wagon on me and made a case on me to the point it would amount to an intentional throw if scum

the way you are talking about this feels more like you just

want

it to be true rather than whether you've considered if it's

likely

I don't think this is as clearing as you're making it out to be tbh

i just tend to get annoyed when people suggest really dumb theories

Another Catboi-Cat Scratch potential partnering post.

And another instance of Cat Scratch tone manipulation.

In no shape or form is the Klick/Catboi a 'dumb theory'

This is completely a discrediting tactic to wallflower here.

It might be wrong, sure, but it is not a 'really dumb theory', especially on Day 1.

[SCP 682]

We have 5 days and I intend to use at least 3 of them

I nearly screamed but instead I will contain myself to a simple and whispered

lolwhatthefuck

You townread both catboi and toog?

Mind committing to one atp?

[Flavor Leaf]

Catboi & Mena are mafia together btw

we start with the dangerous one first

VOTE: Catboi

my scum list currently is:

Catboi
Mena
Flavor Leaf

I had 3 other scumreads but I forgot them because shit for memory

See, here's the thing about this: Tracer Bullet is pooky. And yes, pooky co-won paragon last year, etc. But pooky is developing some extremely bad habits.

He dosen't scumhunt, he

headhunts

. He just pushes players out of fear of their scumgame rather than reading their alignment. He did it to me and skitter in that game. He was right on skitter, but wrong on me, because it was inconceivable to him that I could possibly be playing any differently.for reasons other than my alignment. Frankly I'm not sure he actually cared.

It's a shit way to play and completely insufferable. And whatever happened, good riddance if he was pulling that shit again here.

What’s the point of this post though?

I agree with you that the style of play wasn’t great, but I’m not sure why you felt this post was necessary to make, particularly with Tracer having replaced out.

This post was made by Catboi because he felt the need to explain Pooky's read because Pooky was pushing Catboi as scum correctly, but Catboi wanted it to be known that that's exactly what it was.

[Nero Cain]

Toogs is town.

I don't think I share your conviction but I do understand your reasoning for why you think so and 9/10 times yeah that is going to be a town flip but maybe I'm just being dumb here and think "eh maybe he's scum psyching us out."

I kinda just want the day over and I just want Enchant to hammer.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m not sure that there is an answer that could be reasonably expected outside of “you just do”.

What if I said that's a shit answer?

Then I would wonder whether you asked the question in order to elicit a shit answer, thus dampening the impetus of suspicion against you.

I asked you the question to try to get you to justify your reasoning. It looks like you're having trouble backing up your accusation.

Ooo, why so aggressive?

I feel like I should be able to say that your posting feels a certain way to me without needing to explain the feeling.

But there seems to be this need to stamp out any suspicion cast against you, first with Tracer, and then with me. Seems a little OTT to me.

From even way back then, Catboi was actively discrediting the WallFlower slot.


This has been Catboi discrediting WallFlower this game, not the other way around, and later in the game, Catboi states WallFlower was intentionally antagonizing them, and I by no means feel like they were.

I do believe Catboi is genuinely frustrated, I just think it's because they're scum who hasn't been able to do anything.

[Flavor Leaf]

Toogs is town.

I don't think I share your conviction but I do understand your reasoning for why you think so and 9/10 times yeah that is going to be a town flip but maybe I'm just being dumb here and think "eh maybe he's scum psyching us out."

I kinda just want the day over and I just want Enchant to hammer.

We have 7 on Catboi now.

[Flavor Leaf]

Catboi was discrediting and minimizing your slot all game, Nero. Please hold with it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nashville said they'd come later and push it too, so we don't need to rush and have the day end right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think I would happily elim either Nashville or catboi at this point, with probably a preference for Nashville? I can definitely see a case for mastina being scum, but am less sure on that.

wallflower started being okay with Nashville, and Nashville wagon started to take off instead of Catboi. People were hard trying to push to end the day on nashville when WallFlower was over there. WallFlower moved back, and scum lost the momentum pushing Nashville.

I believe Nashville, Tictac, and Toogeloo are all town, and would put them in my 2nd tier now.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like to me, Mastina’s catch up looks like damage control.

It looks like a pure bog standard mastina catchup to me.

Catboi used the pure bog standard Mastina read when I started to scum read Mastina. They also specifically turned after Well Done gave me heat, and I called out Mastina.


Catboi had pure bog mentality of Mastina, yet they town binned each other.

[Well Done]

i want the day to end but i don't want to acquiesce to FL holding the entire game hostage to push his pet elimination

butter: I think Flavor was the one who put it at E-1 and then Flavor and StD both left the wagon so now it's E-3

i want the day to end but i don't want to acquiesce to FL holding the entire game hostage to push his pet elimination

butter: I think Flavor was the one who put it at E-1 and then Flavor and StD both left the wagon so now it's E-3

It's not even just me.

And that's a bad reason, that's all personal.

The case on Catboi is far stronger than the case everywhere.

And Catboi flipping would actively make me less hyper pushy because im hyper pushy because I see they're scum, and pushing them.

it's not personal, it's behavior i don't want to encourage in general as a way to push a wagon. it's like the opposite of a policy vote.

This is towny

[Well Done]

I'm going to a jail now. If there's a change in 15 minutes, I will vote Toog and obviously change my position to vig catboi.

~Titus

@ Nashville Dreams

I need to see what happened last night but I am not a fan of the Toog wagon.

Let me guess, it's a counterwagon to catboi.

No. Catboi wagon looks dead. It's yet another wagon in a stupidly long day and I lean town on Toog.

????? How, why

@Nashville Dreams

[Flavor Leaf]

i want the day to end but i don't want to acquiesce to FL holding the entire game hostage to push his pet elimination

butter: I think Flavor was the one who put it at E-1 and then Flavor and StD both left the wagon so now it's E-3

i want the day to end but i don't want to acquiesce to FL holding the entire game hostage to push his pet elimination

butter: I think Flavor was the one who put it at E-1 and then Flavor and StD both left the wagon so now it's E-3

It's not even just me.

And that's a bad reason, that's all personal.

The case on Catboi is far stronger than the case everywhere.

And Catboi flipping would actively make me less hyper pushy because im hyper pushy because I see they're scum, and pushing them.

it's not personal, it's behavior i don't want to encourage in general as a way to push a wagon. it's like the opposite of a policy vote.

This is towny

Nah

[Flavor Leaf]

Just because you agree with the sentiment doesnt make that town.

Scum are gonna be against me more than town here.

Town get apathetic towards me. Scum have to take action against me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Scum have all the reason in the world to have that same mindset, if not more.

[cassowary]

There Is A Possibility You Are Wrong !

what if catboi is town

who do you think is scum then

i stone cold do not get why you are so deeply convinced of this random day 1 read that you decided on like 150 pages ago, so much so that you're willing to blow up the entire game to this degree. it doesn't make any sense to me. you are in too deep, man. you are convinced catboi is scum and seeing evidence of it everywhere but for those of us who are not you it doesn't look as damning because we aren't reading things with the same assumptions as you. it doesn't mean everyone who disagrees is intentionally trying to undermine you, and acting like it does is not helping you make your case. i'm not even defending catboi. he could very well be scum idfk. but you have killed any chance i had of voting for him today.

[Flavor Leaf]

Doesn't make Cass scum, still leaning Klick over them, but yeah, def not inherently townie.

[butterchurn]

Just because you agree with the sentiment doesnt make that town.

Scum are gonna be against me more than town here.

Town get apathetic towards me. Scum have to take action against me.

Or you're wrong, and scum are encouraging you.

[Save The Dragons]

cassowary looks pretty town tbh

cassowary, i know FL is annoying (sorry) but if you do have concern about catboi i'd urge you to think about it just a little. and if you don't that's fine too

[Flavor Leaf]

There Is A Possibility You Are Wrong !

what if catboi is town

who do you think is scum then

i stone cold do not get why you are so deeply convinced of this random day 1 read that you decided on like 150 pages ago, so much so that you're willing to blow up the entire game to this degree. it doesn't make any sense to me. you are in too deep, man. you are convinced catboi is scum and seeing evidence of it everywhere but for those of us who are not you it doesn't look as damning because we aren't reading things with the same assumptions as you. it doesn't mean everyone who disagrees is intentionally trying to undermine you, and acting like it does is not helping you make your case. i'm not even defending catboi. he could very well be scum idfk. but you have killed any chance i had of voting for him today.

See, you see it as random by your own admittance. This isn't random. I have actively cased, and given my reasons for scumCatboi, and frankly, I would say I'm at about 90%.

If Catboi is town, then yeah, Cat Scratch Fever is probably lock scum for me, Mastina is scum. They can be scum even if Catboi is scum, though.

It's just everyone's pushing like I'm making these assumptions, but for me, they are not assumptions at this point.

I am correct, and the small chance I'm not, Catboi becomes the absolute best information flip.


It's absolutely not assumptions.

[Flavor Leaf]

Just because you agree with the sentiment doesnt make that town.

Scum are gonna be against me more than town here.

Town get apathetic towards me. Scum have to take action against me.

Or you're wrong, and scum are encouraging you.

Nah, if scum were encouraging me or if I was wrong, Catboi be dead by now.