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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:42 am
by VP Baltar
I'm pro letting Triglav kill kunk tonight and becoming confirmed town. Feel free to stalk me if you like.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:01 am
by VasudeVa
Good point. Yeah, it's unlikely that cult kept dust for that long and I sorta trust the recent robbers. Greater ritual it is. 3/4 of the cult are bloody, so kunk gets stabbed tonight. I think that hito kill probably ate the dust if VP/Spy/Trilo/Kunk got the dust at N2/N3.
I'm for a Feysal or a Nacho lynch. Still stalking VP.
Are we lynching yet or wat? It's dangerously close to the deadline.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:05 am
by VP Baltar
Vote:Nacho
I agree that people need to get their butts in gear. This is the problem with suicide testing. If people are interested in lynching someone other than Nacho or Feysal, now is the time to speak up and make an actual case. I really don't like the coasting excuse this testing has given to people today.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:06 am
by Iecerint
Who else was supposed to get AV last night...? Wouldn't that be an obvious cult dust opportunity? O_o
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:11 am
by VP Baltar
I thought benmage and xvart were the only robbers last night.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:18 am
by Iecerint
Feysal wrote:N7: Andrius robbed by Benmage and xvart, AurorusVox only by xvart
N5: Wraith and Baby Spice robbed by Benmage
So is this an error or a typo or what?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:30 am
by VasudeVa
Vote: Feysal
Who's graverobbing tonight?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:02 am
by Iecerint
VV, please address the clear one-robber-only AV situation...
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:51 am
by Feysal
Iecerint #5055 wrote:Feysal wrote:N7: Andrius robbed by Benmage and xvart, AurorusVox only by xvart
N5: Wraith and Baby Spice robbed by Benmage
So is this an error or a typo or what?
Is there something wrong with it? I took those from what Benmage and xvart claimed to have done today, and checked N5 from earlier in the thread.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:54 am
by Iecerint
WAITWAITWAIT.
Nevermind. xvart is confirmed town, so they couldn't have gotten it from that corpse.
Sorry. Mixed myself up.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:13 am
by xvart
I chose to rob the graves Benmage was supposed to rob because I was getting paranoid about his desire for everyone to get a rez kit; he ended up not robbing who he said he was going to rob (AV) which is why I was the only person to do so.
We'll have two graves to rob tonight with the lynch. I'll rob both of them.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:31 am
by Triglav
Vote: Trilobyte
The whole 'Ben is still scum *hit with unassailable logic* oh, okay, maybe he's a murderer' looks off the type of logic we would expect from Sotty.
Agenda. Most def.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:44 am
by VP Baltar
xvart, who do you want to lynch today?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:45 am
by Iecerint
Yeah, I looked at it and saw ONLY 1 VOTER THERE IS A SLOT FOR CULT without noticing that DUH CULT HAVE TO BE THE *ONLY* ONE TO GET DUST.
<_<
I'm extremely ambivalent about a large number of players who are not kunk.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:54 am
by Trilobite
Vote: Feysal
Don't think there's support for a kunk lynch, which is absolutely tragic.
Triglav's attacking a head of the hydra rather than the play of the hydra itself. (The use of Sotty in his explanation rather than Trilobite shows that.)
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:52 am
by Triglav
Trilobite wrote:Triglav's attacking a head of the hydra rather than the play of the hydra itself. (The use of Sotty in his explanation rather than Trilobite shows that.)
Trilobyte's
desire to lynch Benmage was uber bizarre and used no logic which we would otherwise have expected from that
hydra
as a whole and complete being made up of multiple individual players that we cannot mention as otherwise our attack is null and void.
An agenda was obviously in the works.
Trilobyte
is scummy (so is Sotty)
There, now the attack makes perfect sense.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:49 am
by Trilobite
Yes, the attack.
Hey, let's lynch Feysal. While we push for that, maybe you could share an opinion on him?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:04 am
by Nicodemus
I
still
think we need to lynch kunk today. The logic jumps from "cult probably doesn't have corpse dust" to "cult must have greater ritual'd" to "3/4's of cult are bloody" to "they definitely wouldn't have a res kit/left the cult who had a res kit out of the ritual" to "Triglav's murder will definitely go through" just looks too tenuous to me. Plus, if kunk is town, and our lynch today is town, and the cult kill is town (obv), scum will win by quicklynching Ben/xvart tomorrow. If we lynch kunk and he's town today, scum still won't have the instant win tomorrow.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:25 am
by VP Baltar
Nico, what do you actually think are the odds of kunk being town at this point?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:15 am
by Iecerint
I WILL HIJACK THIS QUESTION.
I think the chance that kunk is town is 0%.
If kunk is town, I will eat my hat.
The only reason not to lynch him is to let Trig kill him -- which we should only do IF we think he will be able to. Which he may not.
I think Trig's a bit sketchy tbh, so I am sketch'd out x2 by the whole enterprise.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:19 am
by VP Baltar
I tend to agree with you on being skeptical of Triglav, Iec. My opinion right now is that the scum probably don't have rez kits, and therefore there should be nothing to stop Triglav from murdering. So, out of tonight I think we either get a dead kunk-cult and a confirmed town Triglav, or a kunk-cult for lynch tomorrow and a highly likely Triglav-cult to lynch the next day. Either way is pretty win, don't you think?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:26 am
by Triglav
Trilobite wrote:Hey, let's lynch Feysal. While we push for that, maybe you could share an opinion on him?
It's down to a Nacho or Feysal concept, yes? We earlier found both town due to investigation.
PoE eliminates that.
We'd tend to bet on Nacho scum over Feysal scum at this stage unless your theory is Nacho is acting so anti-town he can't be scum because then he'd be behaving better.
Don't feel like playing that game.
VP Baltar wrote:Either way is pretty win, don't you think?
We like our odds on that gamble.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:38 am
by Iecerint
I dunno why it's really contraindicated that cult have a res kit...they just have to keep a res kit holder from participating in rituals so long as they hold em. It's not like ritual-ers are a random sample of the cultists. They can choose the ones that won't mess with their res kit holder, and they only need one.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:52 am
by Triglav
You need to backtrack the number of rezzes attributed to cult and then move forward looking for nights free of enough warding, ritualing, and rezzing for someone to be able to launder and replenish their rez kit.
Cult lacks kits.
So tomorrow either kunk is dead and we are obv. town
or
kunk lives and we are obv. cult.
Sexy party!
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:56 am
by Trilobite
You wanna go through that step by step?
Cause I'm not seeing it.