In post 5030, jjh927 wrote:You could always have done your whole rolecop thing and I'd have 100% given it you even though you're scum because I've already fullclaimed but w/e
Also lies. I received nothing in my inbox despite targeting you.
Oh you're claiming your action failed completely here?
Actually, it didn't. The mod was just late in giving me the info. :/
Then how come I haven't been sent anything?
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:43 pm
by Jingle
Subtext, jj. I got rolecopped and gave consent.
I even subtly asked NR not to share her results with the thread, because there is some, if slight, utility in keeping the specifics of my role hidden from the thread at large. If/when I flip that should make more sense. The idea that rolecopping me was unintentional and she meant to rolecop you actually strengthens my townread there.
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:50 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Wait do NR was redirected?
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:51 pm
by THE MEME MEN
Hello . Stance is still the same on jingle/aris/mastina.
In post 2493, THE MEME MEN wrote:
Nero: what do you mean "A Titus scum read comes with the following applications
-lurking
-lazy/go with the flow/wtf Pork vote"
that's interesting because titus said as scum she tried controlling things more than as town, and she's actually been quite active as scum before. So are you lying here
In post 2526, THE MEME MEN wrote:
nero - i've been consulting with Right Head regarding your Titus question and other reads, and we'll post about that once we reached a conclusion
also i brought something out of the archive for everyones pleasure:
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:12 pm
by Jingle
In post 5036, Jingle wrote:Jingle - V
Adalbert Steiner
Vecna - V
Mastina - V
Gamma Emerald - FB
Nicorobin - V
The MEME Men - V
Nero Cain - NSG
Porkens - V?
Creature - M
Firebringer - M
Invisibility - NR
Aristophanes - M
Whemestar -
Northsidegal - V
jjh927 - V
Lady Angel - V
Okay, so the reason this is important, is because as people flip we can put things together.
Varsoon - (10)
Jingle, Vecna, Mastina,
NicoRobin, Meme Men, Porkens, NSG, JJ, Lady Angel,
5 Scum, none of which would have voted for Varsoon. All of which had the opportunity to vote anonymously, and thus would have chosen whoever was most likely to be a viable mislynch. If mastina is town, that's mastina. That means, at most, the Varsoon wagon can have had 3 people claiming to be on it as scum, mathematically. Additionally, people who weren't voting Varsoon, or who were voting mastina, etc. can be asked to justify their votes.
You may have noted that Chick is presumed to be on the Varsoon wagon. That's because that is the possibility that gives scum the least opportunity to manipulate the information later.
Skygazer and Adalbert on the other hand were both pending replacement, so neither could have voted.
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:18 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Okay. Looks sound but I want to see where you go from here
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:47 pm
by Vecna
Yeah, the real interesting question is how scum wouldve behaved leading upto that varsoon ability being triggered.
On the one hand, it was very easy to make yourself look good there by pushing on Varsoon, knowing that he could trigger his ability regardless where you have a chance for a sneak attack on Mastina with the entire scumteam (assuming she is indeed town). There is bound to be at least some town that wouldve voted Mastina (and claimed to have done so).
On the other hand....it really seemed like scum did not want to use it yet, and did not have a proper plan set up. Maybe they were hoping the gladiate would go onto jingle so Varsoon could use it to force a lynch on Mastina? But that would mean putting pressure to get Varsoon gladiated there was really stupid (which is what Porkens and Meme Men were doing effectively).
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:49 pm
by Vecna
Kinda annoying Wheme did not confirm who he voted for last night.
WHEMESTAR, WHOM DID YOU VOTE FOR LAST DAY DURING VARSOON's ABILITY?
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:52 pm
by Vecna
Also, Jingle - your numbers are likely to be even more positive, given a certain someone's last post and the fact you didnt add varsoon himself yet.
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:59 pm
by Vecna
Also, this setup could potentially feature 6 scum, which would also have quite some implications given that vote. But I guess that shouldnt be taken into consideration too much.
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:14 pm
by Adelbert Steiner
I still do not understand the purpose of claiming our votes during paranoia. Could someone explain this theory?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:01 am
by Aristophanes
I may or may not be able to post here by wednesday...I mean I shouldn't even be in any games arm but here we are!
I'll try to read along though! This vote claiming stuff is at least a little interesting I am excited for the end product!