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[Rhinox]

I was planning on playing seriously eventually lol. Dammit insomnia my scum shepherd

[Wake1]

The game PTs have been made public. Not able to link them yet, but they are now viewable.

[Nero Cain]

interesting

[Titus]

There are

SHIT TONS

of players that scumread me every game, it's not a vendetta. I mean I guess it

could be

but I'm more of the side that its just ppl that are horrible at reading me/mafia.

There's no proof that its a vendetta b/c 1.) I don't tunnel u in every game 2.) There

WAS

a large part of this game where I wasn't tunneling you when you first replaced in 3.) I had in-game reasons why I suspected you. If anything was toxic it was you and Drixx and Fonz.

You made the game not fun

[Nero Cain]

being scum read isn't a toxic action, it's literally how you play the game. It seems like everyone is just super sensitive these days.

I didn't have a vendetta on y b4 but I might now.

[Rhinox]

I still don't get it. Saw nothing wrong with Nero's posting this game. Saw much worse from others posting about him, and from players who've been around long enough to know how aggressive many players used to be around here 5+ years ago.

We've gone soft

[profii]

I just realised my 1 confident scum read was correct ha ha (pine)

[chkflip]

PINE WHAT THE HELL WERE THOSE TELLS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT

[clidd]

being scum read isn't a toxic action, it's literally how you play the game. It seems like everyone is just super sensitive these days.

I didn't have a vendetta on y b4 but I might now.

It depends, sometimes is frustrating to be a scumread if you have the conviction that you are playing well as town. Personally, TSE / Titus were towns to me, just as you were. But this tunnel somewhat hampered the game's progress.

[chkflip]

There's tunneling and then there's "everything you do no matter what will be misconstrued as scummy because fuck you" and not understanding or caring about the difference there is staggering, but ultimately not surprising.

[Nero Cain]

sometimes is frustrating to be a scumread if you have the conviction that you are playing well as town.

I agree with this 100%.

but it's still not toxic to scum read someone when

YOU

don't think they are playing a great town game.

But this tunnel somewhat hampered the game's progress.

how so?

b/c the tic tac wagon still happened.

the d2 BR flashwagon still happened.

Was there a decent amount of Nero and Titus pushing each other? Yes, there was b/c there was hardly anyone else doing things.

There's tunneling and then there's "everything you do no matter what will be misconstrued as scummy

I think this is how most people treat their scumreads. I get treated like this all the time and I don't think people have vendettas against me.

because fuck you"

I know this is the era of "guilty unless proven innocent" but it's pretty sad that ppl are believing Titus. I wholeheartedly believed TSE was scum. That's on me bro. But Titus' pushing me (and a bunch of other town) and me pushing back was an occupational hazard she should have been willing to take. I feel like she lost the battle/argument as evidenced by a d3 wagon and no one really caring about her and she just got whiney and toxic.

[Pine]

PINE WHAT THE HELL WERE THOSE TELLS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT

Eh?

[chkflip]

<_<

You either made up or mentioned two tells. Faraday and FATE if memory serves.

[Pine]

I think you're confusing me with someone else.

[chkflip]

I

what?

Someone else remembers these being brought up, right?

[BBmolla]

that was me

the tells were complete nonsense

[BBmolla]

the other redhead lul

[NorwegianboyEE]

Our goal in this game was actually to lynch as many vigilantes as possible. The strategy was a complete success. Go us!

Btw , why aren't the PT's linked Wake? I wanna see them.

[bob3141]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=81529

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=81530

those are the two mafia ones

[bob3141]

just serach red and blue in completed games and you will find them

[Cat Scratch Fever]

oh hey, I saved Nero N1

[Titus]

Nero's never going to admit even the slightest bit of his vendetta was toxic or that he needs to improve in any way. It's always someone else's fault.

[chkflip]

Unfortunately, I think perhaps the approach to the subject is perhaps off a bit? Perhaps it is likely Nero believes there is no vendetta where you believe there is one. Perhaps it would be easier to reach a neutral ground instead of assuming the worst and attempt to come to a mutual understanding. That's just my take-away from this whole thing. Like, don't get me wrong, I get how you feel. And I get that when someone tells you you hurt them or it feels a certain way that they can't tell you that they didn't.

What I mean is perhaps this is a misunderstanding that can be mutually gained and moved on from.

[Titus]

Chkflip, been there done that. Nero says next game will be different. I lost count how many times. At some point, I just call a spade a spade.

[Nero Cain]

get over yourself, Titus