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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:55 am
by DkKoba
sorry nora

u did really play pro scun wrt mechs and i wanted rly badly to just policy u and i will maintain that

but i really did get hard distracted by ur slot and was missing the bigger picture.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:01 am
by Noraa
it's alright. my play style is difficult to read :D

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:08 am
by Bingle
In post 137, Bingle wrote:PenguinPower
Gamma Emerald

Fun and Games

Nosferatu
GeorgeBailey
Pine

beeboy - Null line.
CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage

DoctorPepper

Ydrasse
SirCakez
Huh. Better early reads than I expected, tbh.

Thanks for modding Lilith, game was a blast. As far as balance goes, I haven’t really looked too hard, but I suspect it was fairly townsided. More importantly, though, it was fun. If a game is sufficiently fun, it doesn’t need to be perfectly balanced.

I might give some advice on general approaches to balancing a game later though. Just remember to take anything I say with salt, as I don’t mod nearly as much as I used to and I’m fairly rusty.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:11 am
by Bingle
Also, feel free to release my pt and the dead pt early. No redactions here.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:22 am
by Gamma Emerald
Bungle how do you rate Dk’s mech play attempts

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:43 am
by DkKoba
i know my attempts werent as good as they could have been but thats because i didnt have time to spend making a spreadsheet what I did end up setting up at the end was autowin and we didnt even need mechs when 2 of the scum were extremely obvious(lavar and abr)

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:52 am
by JohnnyFarrar
Literally my first game back in years and we broke 200 pages. Proud, really

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:55 am
by Flavor Leaf
That was fun.

I tried making Nora sense like a partner.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:02 am
by DkKoba
In post 5057, Flavor Leaf wrote:That was fun.

I tried making Nora sense like a partner.
nora was independently just straight up antitown with her actions. personally i just ignore confscum lines lol

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:03 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 5029, lilith2013 wrote:Some comments on the game:

This was the first game I've ever designed. Like the game it's based on, I think it's very swingy, but the intent was to create a mafia game that was fun/new/cool, and I hope that I achieved that. I apologize if the game didn't feel balanced or felt unfair in design, that was not my intent. Unfortunately I think with a setup like this, with so many variables, true balance may not really be achievable.

I'm definitely open to
constructive
criticism - I'd like to run more of these at some point in the future, and I am woefully inexperienced at setup balance. Some of the things that happened in this game I also didn't foresee, like people being confirmable on whether or not they had destroyed a lab, and that (among other things I didn't foresee) probably led to the game being more townsided than I had intended. Feedback is much appreciated.
Mafia being able to kill every night is an extremely important mechanic that allows them to keep pace with town figuring out conftown.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:04 am
by Albert B. Rampage
Scum being able to kill 1 player every night would have fixed balancing imo.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:06 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 5027, SirCakez wrote:I still feel ABR did a tactical replace out here
In post 5031, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5027, SirCakez wrote:I still feel ABR did a tactical replace out here
I reported him :shrug:
Idk if anything came of it tho
I was sick of playing for a week and was planning on basically prod dodging for the rest of the game so I decided instead to replace out for my own mental health.

It was not a pleasant mafia pt as you will read.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:09 am
by JohnnyFarrar
Yikes. I hope you feel better ally

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:12 am
by Albert B. Rampage
Yeah all good.

I didn't feel the game was fair, wasn't having fun, tried too hard to win and the game was rigged against me, I left before it got more toxic.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:12 am
by DkKoba
u replaced out right as u learned that u were conf scum from my ability lol that was grimy and dont ever play with me again because you wasted all of our time. u coulda just stayed in the game and took the elim but instead u make us wait

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:14 am
by Albert B. Rampage
When town mislynches 3 times in a row and you have 0% chance to win because of mechanics its upsetting.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:15 am
by Albert B. Rampage
I 100% did not expect my slot would die day 4. I thought town would lynch lamar and I'd have to suffer through several more weeks.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:18 am
by Albert B. Rampage
I also didn't believe Dkkoba's claim but that's a balance issue. I found it way too powerful to have a role that exposes everyone attacking them. If all 3 scum attack him and he survives (which he most likely will because scum is weak af) the game is over. Which is so weird to me from a setup perspective.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:19 am
by Albert B. Rampage
We crunched numbers and it was like 16% chance of lethal if all 3 of us hit lmao. It was so pathetic. Scum couldn't kill anyone or even close to it.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:21 am
by Noraa
In post 5064, DkKoba wrote:u replaced out right as u learned that u were conf scum from my ability lol that was grimy and dont ever play with me again because you wasted all of our time. u coulda just stayed in the game and took the elim but instead u make us wait
Hey, be nice please :neutral:

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:22 am
by Albert B. Rampage
I put up a good fight. Just impossible to win when everyone is confirmed town from destroying labs and scum can't kill for shit.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:30 am
by Albert B. Rampage
I was worried about Pine for giving himself +1 knowledge on N0 and at lamar for just announcing in the thread that he has a sword. Me for attacking dk in a suicide attack (but his personality just annoys me so I didn't want to play with him, the fact he was conftown justified my reason for trying to kill him with 12 dice in a kamikaze attack that didn't kill him. He got lucky.). Scum made mechanical mistakes but they weren't fatal mistakes. The day play was poor. Iksf and I did what we could to play a terrible hand.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:31 am
by DkKoba
my pronounsare theythem

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:31 am
by DkKoba
lavar was scummy d3. if lavar didnt try to farm towncred no one would have thought to attack him. once he annoucned the sword he needed to give it up to gamma / a clear

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:32 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 5061, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 5027, SirCakez wrote:I still feel ABR did a tactical replace out here
In post 5031, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5027, SirCakez wrote:I still feel ABR did a tactical replace out here
I reported him :shrug:
Idk if anything came of it tho
I was sick of playing for a week and was planning on basically prod dodging for the rest of the game so I decided instead to replace out for my own mental health.

It was not a pleasant mafia pt as you will read.
Understandable. I was considering reporting recently but wanted to know more before doing so