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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:11 pm
by Toogeloo
I think this is the only scum game I played with you Spiffeh.

The Thing Mafia
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=68775

I replaced in on Day 1 and was lynched right away.

My wiki is up to date though, so feel free to peruse it.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:13 pm
by Double the Trouble
like i think ur town but for teh entire game I had {Solstice, Spiffeh} contains 1 scum max and I had you aligned with dunn for like the whole game
im starting to see evidence for you being town but if like polar bears just flips scum its not lookin good.

Also part of me wants to just start suspecting mastina considering that I feel like she's probably done more things in the favor of fl but im not sure atm I think im starting to play like a monkey

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:14 pm
by Double the Trouble
like idunno man toog just feels townie to me :/

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:18 pm
by Double the Trouble
like i haven't palyed with the player honestly is toogeloo someone who is like usually like super obvtown?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:23 pm
by Toogeloo
In meta playstyle mafia, I was Transparent Townie (Innocent Child).

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:26 pm
by Double the Trouble
like N2 I thought solve was like {Dunn, Spiffeh, Polar Bears} with maybe some DEB.
throughout D3 I'm starting to realize that toog isn't as townie as I thought they were but they still have these moments that I feel like r just townie.
I'm also starting to realize that Spiffy is starting to be a bit more townie and Gloria's posting today kinda supports my solve but is also just kinda townie as well so now I'm thinking that I'm just a fucking monkey who outed the masonry :/

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:31 pm
by Double the Trouble
Did you ever realize that you use the word: "like" a lot?

- Norwee

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:34 pm
by Double the Trouble
Have you ever noticed you're norwegian?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:35 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 4736, Solstice wrote:
In post 4568, Spiffeh wrote:Because myself and Polar Bears seem to be some of your most desired targets and I'm town and Polar Bears is the most obvtown player in the game

Toogeloo, Ydrasse, maybe Dunn?
Are where I'd look next for scum
In post 4707, Ydrasse wrote:vt!

town: mastina (with an asterisk to think about if she's still around endgame and we're struggling to find mafia), solstice, ircher, deb barring any role shenanigans

scum: polar bear express,
toogeloo, spiffeh, maybe dunnstral
[I find it funny these two's lists are inverses of each other, even up to both having Dunn as a "maybe". It's probably not important but i still thought it interesting]

[Anyway here's what i was curious about]
Spoiler: Ydrasse on Polarbear
In post 4525, Ydrasse wrote:oh no... oh no no no polar bear express no.... what are you doing sweetie......
In post 4526, Ydrasse wrote:i'm just going to pretend i don't see these posts... *smiles sweetly*
In post 4707, Ydrasse wrote:vt!

town: mastina (with an asterisk to think about if she's still around endgame and we're struggling to find mafia), solstice, ircher, deb barring any role shenanigans

scum: polar bear express, toogeloo, spiffeh, maybe dunnstral

[
@Ydrasse
, what exactly did you find scummy about Polarbears?]

~Morning
This is actually a really good observation I like this a lot

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:44 pm
by Double the Trouble
like I have
{Solstice, Spiffeh} contains 1 scum max.
{Spiffeh, Dunn} aligned with each other
{Polar Bears, Toogeloo} 1 scum max. I suspect Polar Bears and townread Toogeloo and I think FL telling Pooky that he drafts noraa seems realistic. The thing is Pooky came into the masonry at 1 point during D1 and was like "lol why are you people townreading noraa i don't see anything that that slot has done as townie" and then we kinda just all shifted towards that. Gloria's posting is still good but I feel like given what they posted so far it still supports my theory that scum is just {Spiffeh, Dunn, Polar Bears}

{Ircher, Ydrasse, Solstice} as pretty solid town. I kinda townread mastina too but am mostly just paranoid.
The thing that bugs me abotu Solstice is their justification about why they didn't claim but aside from that the role is probably a red haring. Their observation on 4736 is really good.
Ydrasse I could be wrong but so far I haven't been when it comes to reading the player but so far it seems town. If they're scum it'll probably show itself based on their reads.
The writing on the wall says mastina is town but im mostly getting paranoid given I think if things start to go wrong then they've probably been working for FL the whole entire game.

DEB isn't a slot I'm worrying over atm.
I have {Dunn, DEB} containing 1 scum max and if both players are scum if we can get that last scum kill then the game is unwinnable for DEB.

And like that just leaves Spiffeh to me.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:47 pm
by Double the Trouble
Like thats where my head is at.
I'll let people engage with it.

I'm not rdy to end obviously, I still want to think about how I feel like the game should play out.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:57 pm
by Dunnstral
DEB hard sacced himself to take me out

Seems out of place, but ok

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:00 pm
by Double the Trouble
Dunn why is it Ydrasse?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:00 pm
by Dunnstral
She hasn't done anything but fluff post

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:01 pm
by Double the Trouble
sounds like town!ydrasse to me tbh

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:02 pm
by Dunnstral
You think Spiffeh is aligned with me, does that apply for us both being town?

And if that is the case, do you think polar bears is scum still?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:08 pm
by mastina
In post 4754, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:would she kill him and then cry over the coffin like a grieving widow? I don't think so ~.~
To be fair, FL would be the one deciding, not her, buuuuuuuuuuuut, I agree with you in trusting pichu on Ydrasse being town. :P

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:18 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 5065, Dunnstral wrote:You think Spiffeh is aligned with me, does that apply for us both being town?

And if that is the case, do you think polar bears is scum still?
Yeah I came up with u 2 being teamed given you two want the samethings and u 2 feel like teammates who both identified that they were on the same team.

If you two end up being town hmmmm
the first person I would probably end up considering would be toogeloo honestly?
If THAT flipped town after spiffeh + you flipping town that that means noraa would be suspect but before I even did that the question I would ask myself is

"So why is the rest of Bell's team bussing Bell but this guy is just voting Creature"

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:19 pm
by Double the Trouble
but ya I think for spiffeh to be scum you would have to be scum with him dunn.

If there was like, 1 scum 1 town inbetween those players I think it would be more likely that its Dunn > Spiffy.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:22 pm
by Ydrasse
i would simply not care what that scum man would tell me to do if i was drafted into playing scum

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:24 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 5067, Double the Trouble wrote:and u 2 feel like teammates who both identified that they were on the same team.
Is that something scum does in thread?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:26 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 5070, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 5067, Double the Trouble wrote:and u 2 feel like teammates who both identified that they were on the same team.
Is that something scum does in thread?
I mean if ur both town thats what happened if ur both scum you both seem to be supporting each other which is why I think you two are aligned with each other in the first place.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:26 pm
by mastina
In post 4806, Dunnstral wrote:Nobody has claimed it so they're either a named townie, lying, or scum has the role
Possible, but also possible: it's a red herring to make us paranoid of a scum supersaint.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:27 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 4973, Toogeloo wrote:That broke somehow. At least the bulk of it is in Spoiler Tags so far.

Suffice to say, so far I'm going with the:

Noraa/Dunn/Ydrasse/Bell
solve.

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I haven't even made it through like a tenth of Noraa's posts either :(
Bell has already been flipped. Like how do you have him in last place? And the VC on you, Bell doesn’t actually look great btw, so keep shading us.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:28 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 5073, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4973, Toogeloo wrote:That broke somehow. At least the bulk of it is in Spoiler Tags so far.

Suffice to say, so far I'm going with the:

Noraa/Dunn/Ydrasse/Bell
solve.

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I haven't even made it through like a tenth of Noraa's posts either :(
Bell has already been flipped. Like how do you have him in last place? And the VC on you, Bell doesn’t actually look great btw, so keep shading us.
Thats who he thinks is on the team I don't see the problem with it.